Vampires - Page 6

Warumono · 02-07-2008, 02:51 PM

Hellsing is pretty amazing.
I would have to say that Alucard is my favorite vampire.

Seil · 02-07-2008, 03:32 PM

It's true, there are many incarnations of vampires. Some are kind, some aren't. Some suck blood, some don't. But for some reason I cannot take Hellsing as an accurate depiction of Vampires. I just can't.

Mad Jack the Pirate · 02-07-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Seil

It's true, there are many incarnations of vampires. Some are kind, some aren't. Some suck blood, some don't. But for some reason I cannot take Hellsing as an accurate depiction of Vampires. I just can't.

This is ironic, seeing as Alucard is likely the closest approximation, ability and personality wise, of the Original Count Dracula in the last 20 years.

Krylo · 02-07-2008, 04:57 PM

I don't think Dracula could turn into a giant magical dog-esque beast and eat a god, or regenerate nearly as quickly as Mr. I'm-getting-ripped-apart-by-bullets-and-it-doesn't-even-hurt either. I mean, Alucard had similar powers to the original count, but they were all pretty over blown from the original like a million times. Which is probably why it's hard to see it as 'accurate'.

Though, honestly, I find the irony in the idea of there being ANY 'accurate depiction' of a mythical race of beings with thousands upon thousands of variations in form, function, and abilities.

On a tangential note--I've been playing Oblivion again (as that DMC4 didn't arrive on time to Wal-mart. Fuckin' Wal-mart), and I have to say that Oblivion has a damn good depiction of vampires. I mean you have Lord Hassildor of Skingrad, who, though he has a torture chamber and drains the blood out of petty criminals to sate himself, also has a wife who is in a coma, that he wishes to find peace for--humanity and the beast at once. Then you have Seridur, who is as manipulative as they come, originally even pretending to be a vampire slayer himself to throw off suspicion of his own crimes. Then there's Vincent of the Dark Brotherhood, who is kind to his 'brothers and sisters' of the night, but is also a hired assassin. The only truly tragic vampire that I've met so far has been Hassildor's wife, who is in a coma from refusing to feed--which makes more sense than the vampires who do feed but feel shitty about it.

I guess I just like the way they're written in because they have humanity in them, but they are almost all tainted rather darkly by their need to feed on live humans to survive--their minds warping with time to see humans as food.

Herr Doktor · 02-07-2008, 05:18 PM

Blood+ does good vampires.
I somehow find Saya unbearably sexy, especially when she's got a tiny spatter of blood on her face....

Edited: Krylo raises some good points, Vampires are people too. Maybe not necessarily human, but people nonetheless. I'm going to have to play Oblivion again at some point.

Warumono · 02-07-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Herr Doktor

Blood+ does good vampires.
I somehow find Saya unbearably sexy, especially when she's got a tiny spatter of blood on her face....

There was a movie of Blood the Last Vampire I watched once, but I haven't really given Blood+ a chance yet.
The movie seemed alright, it had these weird monsters in it though that like burst out of people.

Krylo · 02-07-2008, 08:28 PM

Yeah, those are in Blood + as well.

They're much better explained and the characters are better... and well, let me put it this way, if Blood the Last Vampire was Pokemon, Blood+ would be like, I don't know... Trigun or Outlaw Star or something, as a comparison point.

Series is MUCH better. It lags in points where there's a lot of 'downtime' in the action, but the characters are still great. That downtime would also be mitigated greatly if you got a box set or whatever so you didn't have to wait a week for the next episode after when they have an episode where nothing happens but character interaction.

Also: Drunk David. Oh man, Drunk David is the best thing ever.

bananarama · 02-08-2008, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Krylo

Series is MUCH better. It lags in points where there's a lot of 'downtime' in the action, but the characters are still great. That downtime would also be mitigated greatly if you got a box set or whatever so you didn't have to wait a week for the next episode after when they have an episode where nothing happens but character interaction.

Also: Drunk David. Oh man, Drunk David is the best thing ever.

Amen to that. But I wouldn't necessarily call Saya a vampire (not undead) though she is similar to one.

Another good vampire anime that I remember is Trinity Blood (if you don't mind your vampires bishified).

02-07-2008, 04:57 PM	#54
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	I don't think Dracula could turn into a giant magical dog-esque beast and eat a god, or regenerate nearly as quickly as Mr. I'm-getting-ripped-apart-by-bullets-and-it-doesn't-even-hurt either. I mean, Alucard had similar powers to the original count, but they were all pretty over blown from the original like a million times. Which is probably why it's hard to see it as 'accurate'. Though, honestly, I find the irony in the idea of there being ANY 'accurate depiction' of a mythical race of beings with thousands upon thousands of variations in form, function, and abilities. On a tangential note--I've been playing Oblivion again (as that DMC4 didn't arrive on time to Wal-mart. Fuckin' Wal-mart), and I have to say that Oblivion has a damn good depiction of vampires. I mean you have Lord Hassildor of Skingrad, who, though he has a torture chamber and drains the blood out of petty criminals to sate himself, also has a wife who is in a coma, that he wishes to find peace for--humanity and the beast at once. Then you have Seridur, who is as manipulative as they come, originally even pretending to be a vampire slayer himself to throw off suspicion of his own crimes. Then there's Vincent of the Dark Brotherhood, who is kind to his 'brothers and sisters' of the night, but is also a hired assassin. The only truly tragic vampire that I've met so far has been Hassildor's wife, who is in a coma from refusing to feed--which makes more sense than the vampires who do feed but feel shitty about it. I guess I just like the way they're written in because they have humanity in them, but they are almost all tainted rather darkly by their need to feed on live humans to survive--their minds warping with time to see humans as food. __________________ I am very tired.

02-07-2008, 05:18 PM	#55
Herr Doktor It's actually eating my thumb. Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 192	Blood+ does good vampires. I somehow find Saya unbearably sexy, especially when she's got a tiny spatter of blood on her face.... Edited: Krylo raises some good points, Vampires are people too. Maybe not necessarily human, but people nonetheless. I'm going to have to play Oblivion again at some point. __________________ Herr Doktor has left the NPF. KTHXBAI No, really, I tried, but i don't like this place. 'S been fun, guys.

02-07-2008, 08:28 PM	#57
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	Yeah, those are in Blood + as well. They're much better explained and the characters are better... and well, let me put it this way, if Blood the Last Vampire was Pokemon, Blood+ would be like, I don't know... Trigun or Outlaw Star or something, as a comparison point. Series is MUCH better. It lags in points where there's a lot of 'downtime' in the action, but the characters are still great. That downtime would also be mitigated greatly if you got a box set or whatever so you didn't have to wait a week for the next episode after when they have an episode where nothing happens but character interaction. Also: Drunk David. Oh man, Drunk David is the best thing ever. __________________ I am very tired.

02-07-2008, 03:32 PM	#52
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	It's true, there are many incarnations of vampires. Some are kind, some aren't. Some suck blood, some don't. But for some reason I cannot take Hellsing as an accurate depiction of Vampires. I just can't.