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Unread 04-29-2009, 07:45 PM   #41
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naw, you're just talking about being a spoilsport. You're one of those guys who goes to the magic show and ruins it for everybody.
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I agree with you on that. I mean come on, those super heroes actually kicked a lot of ass.
Exactly, the whole story was about how signifigant and world-changing(in a bad way) the presence of super-heroes were,down to crime fighters making the cops go on strike.
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Unread 04-29-2009, 07:49 PM   #42
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I've read watchmen too, and saw it as a deconstruction of the genre and a statement on the cold war, not a "super-heroes are dumb" book.
I saw that too, but if you read it a few times there definitely seem to be points on how super heroes wouldn't actually do crap in the real world.
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I agree with you on that. I mean come on, those super heroes actually kicked a lot of ass.
Yeah, they kicked a lot of ass taking down a few criminals here and there. Also hurting innocent civilians. Also doing some random charity work (which the fire department could have handled). Most everything they do up until Veidt's plan can easily be seen as petty or insignificant. And then Veidt kills an entire city because his ego decided it was the only answer (there's enough evidence in the book to interpret that what Veidt did was completely unnecessary).

Really, almost every good thing that heroes did in Watchmen was counter acted by the bad things they did (as a whole). With that in mind, it almost seems like a pretty direct statement at how real life superheroes wouldn't actually "work" (as in they wouldn't get much done).

This is of course excluding Dr. Manhattan.
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Unread 04-29-2009, 07:54 PM   #43
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I didn't say they did anything useful, I said they kicked a lot of ass.

No real person could kick that much ass.

Also I've never been to a magic show, although I do a mean two card monty.
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Unread 04-29-2009, 07:55 PM   #44
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That's it.

We're starting a group of dangerous vigilantes Super Heroes, and Funka isn't invited.

Explosives are, however.
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Unread 04-29-2009, 08:24 PM   #45
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Rock on.

I heard about this whole idea when Rolling Stone did their piece on it, and I wish I had balls as big as these guys.
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Unread 04-29-2009, 08:51 PM   #46
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I'm sure superheroing would be much easier if actual crime were, you know, easier to find.
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Unread 04-29-2009, 08:59 PM   #47
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They could probably just join an "official" organization like the Guardian Angels and do the same thing, but if they want to dress up like superheroes, uh, I guess that's okay. Personally I'd be too embarrassed. Also the uniform of the Guardian Angels is immediately recognizable, and their presence could be a deterrent to crime. Personally, I wouldn't take a guy named "Shadowhare" very seriously.

EDIT: But I mean if Aclyptico wants to team up I'm totally down with that.
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Unread 04-29-2009, 09:00 PM   #48
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That's it.

We're starting a group of dangerous vigilantes Super Heroes, and Funka isn't invited.

Explosives are, however.
Gawd FINALLY.
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Unread 04-29-2009, 09:01 PM   #49
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The more I'm thinking about vigilantism the less I'm thinking it's so much about one guy waging war on crime, but more about a guy running around in a crazy outfit doing good stuff in an effort to make other people feel at least moderately responsible for the events that occur around them. I'm not saying that it's particularly effective, but I can respect someone who puts themselves in harm's way to try and inspire their peers to be better people.
Granted, you don't need to wear a silly outfit to be a role model, but it does help to draw attention to your actions. Though whether it's positive or negative attention is in the eye of the beholder.
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Unread 04-29-2009, 09:02 PM   #50
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okay, who has what role? if we're gonna be a team.
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