Stamping out Big Tobacco - Page 4

Fifthfiend · 06-15-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob the Mercenary

Why would they want to intentionally do something that would no doubt draw countless lawsuits (however failed) and put cigarrettes in danger of what's happening now, namely their ingredients being government regulated?

I understand that added ingredients with addictiveness = profit. But, you actually think another ulterior motive was to inflict people with cancer just to get their rocks off?

I don't think you can knowingly inflict that much harm on people without getting off on it. I don't think cognitive dissonance is enough, I think at some point you have to believe that the people you're doing it to deserve it and get off on your ability to do it to them.

BitVyper · 06-15-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

I don't think you can knowingly inflict that much harm on people without getting off on it. I don't think cognitive dissonance is enough, I think at some point you have to believe that the people you're doing it to deserve it and get off on your ability to do it to them.

See yeah; I would have less of a problem with the tobacco industry if it didn't seem like it was being run by Snidely Whiplash.

Edit: Or Skeletor.

Edit: In fact, I'm gonna go with Skeletor. He has that laugh.

Aerozord · 06-15-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

I don't think you can knowingly inflict that much harm on people without getting off on it. I don't think cognitive dissonance is enough, I think at some point you have to believe that the people you're doing it to deserve it and get off on your ability to do it to them.

I think its apathy driven. They dont enjoy it, they just dont care, you are a statistic not a human being. They dont think "this guy died a horrible painful death" they think, "ok we lost 10,000 customers so to meet our projections we will need 30,000 new ones". They dont even distinguise between someone that dies and someone that quits. You are a money tree to be harvested and they dont care if your life span is cut in half if they sell you four times as many ciggerettes.

Eldezar · 06-16-2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob the Mercenary

But, you actually think another ulterior motive was to inflict people with cancer just to get their rocks off?

Yes, I do.

Bob The Mercenary · 06-16-2009, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Eldezar

Yes, I do.

Even if I did believe the Bilderbergers were throwing everyone into a depression to bring about a new world order, the reasons behind it aren't simply to cause people distress and pain. Money is the end objective once again.

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They have shown us their global finance system with the economic meltdown. They have shown us their global health system with the pandemic scare. They are getting ready to show us their global military system with a tactical (false flag) nuke strategically place within our country and several other country�s. After this, all systems will be in place to begin their final solution. Extermination of all useless eaters.

People who think like this scare me more than the people he's talking about.

Professor Smarmiarty · 06-16-2009, 07:29 AM

I think the real reason for all the crap in cigarettes is because of how such products are designed.
Industrial research into things like cigarettes find it far cheaper to just throw things togethe r and see if they work than to fully research it and work out optimum product ratios. There is some method behind it- such as the rocket fuel components being put in to ensure good burning- but we still don't know how everything interacts together. But if you come across a product that is useful and works you generally just sell it without tinkering too much with the formula as to deconvolute all the effects of each cigarette ingredient when all mixed together would be barely possible- it would cost obscene sums of money and take decades.

Frostatine · 06-16-2009, 11:59 AM

I just want to say that when menthols finally kill myself and all my menthol-smoking friends, our crystalized lungs will be made into Christmas Ornaments and auctioned to anti-smoking companies. All proceeds will go towards making marijuana legal.

Oh, and trivia: Marlboro has the patent on weed cigarettes, and has had it for a loooonng time.

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06-16-2009, 07:29 AM	#36
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	I think the real reason for all the crap in cigarettes is because of how such products are designed. Industrial research into things like cigarettes find it far cheaper to just throw things togethe r and see if they work than to fully research it and work out optimum product ratios. There is some method behind it- such as the rocket fuel components being put in to ensure good burning- but we still don't know how everything interacts together. But if you come across a product that is useful and works you generally just sell it without tinkering too much with the formula as to deconvolute all the effects of each cigarette ingredient when all mixed together would be barely possible- it would cost obscene sums of money and take decades.