Pokemon Umbral Discussion 27: Prepare For Trouble...

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Menarker

1: Follow Me can be used to save someone who may be more important or cruical at the time while having the stamina to live a good deal of the time. Or at least act as a serious buffer for the person it is protecting.

Entirely circumstantial. Like you said, you have to guess it.

Originally Posted by Menarker

2: Its attack is "passable" for dealing with mooks. If it REALLY needs to do a beatdown on a boss, it has the gimicky option of Buffing/Power Trick and Attacking, especially if said attack is a Testament Drive.

Already established it takes forever. And leaves the whole team hanging to get fucked while we're waiting for you to make your super-tank and hope to Christ it doesn't get ganged up on in the meantime.

Originally Posted by Menarker

3: Being able to take multiple hits means that Renny gains more rage that way. With Follow Me, if Mollesk blocks for someone who is being ganged up on (Requires guessing which target is likely to be hit), Renny gains rage pretty fast.

4: Rock Slide hits two foes, thus Renny gains more rage just a bit faster, thus fueling his support skills.

Thus, it serves as an additional rage building tool and defensive wall at the same time while either serving as a mook damager, team support, or a Boss Nuke. (999 Attack with Testament Drive?)

You and your Rage.

Originally Posted by Menarker

Admitably though, Recover is less of a useful move than I would have liked. At least I could assumed that Mollesk could heal in between battles with it, but with the recent revelations that Medics have infinite healing items, that is no longer a crucial point.

No comment on Double Team? For shame. I mean, you had better not be thinking of spending three turns for Cosmic Power/Power Trick and then another two for Double Team.

Originally Posted by Menarker

If/when I make a custom move for Mollesk, I'm thinking something like a high power AOE bug type move that drains a huge portion of the damage back as health. That's entirely at the moment thinking though and haven't thought of anything else huge yet.

I'd rather you didn't. For one, I thought Renny was supposed to love all his pokemon equally, yet it seems like Mollesk gets all the cool stuff.

Originally Posted by Menarker

Anyhow, part of the problem with the Pokegeddon, was that their stats had gotten boosted by Supreme Restore. Their power was going to be practically all around 2.5 times tougher. They left the fight when they had the "supreme" upper hand.
If we had Mirror as our engineer, she could probably nuke them due to the dark evolith having Punishment which gets stronger when foes get a buff. A Supreme Restore gives 15 stages worth of buffs, 3 for each primary buff stat, Attack, Defense, Speed, Special Attack and Defense. Punishment would have had a power of 360 in that case! If a dark pokemon (preferably one with high attack stat) used it, adding STAB would make it a devasting force, and that's before anything else like weakness or Helping Hand.

Meh, we could've taken 'em anyway.

Originally Posted by Menarker

Anyhow, do we have a plan now, since AB said that Max Revives would count as normal revives when used with Prosperous Gifts? Are we going to revive the lost pokemons or are we focusing on me using Prosperous Gifts on the Full Restores to heal all the pokebrids and humans?

Do both. I dunno the items Renny's carrying, but have Rachel use Full Restores on Impact and Matthias, and Renny can use a Full Restore on Mollesk and spread a Max Revive for the whole team.

Or just let Mollesk die. I'm okay with that too.

And don't think you can keep ignoring my accusations that you're only making Renny a Pokebrid for an excuse to get into Lola's pants.

[Menarker]

Originally Posted by Dracorion

No comment on Double Team? For shame. I mean, you had better not be thinking of spending three turns for Cosmic Power/Power Trick and then another two for Double Team.

I'd rather you didn't. For one, I thought Renny was supposed to love all his pokemon equally, yet it seems like Mollesk gets all the cool stuff.

Do both. I dunno the items Renny's carrying, but have Rachel use Full Restores on Impact and Matthias, and Renny can use a Full Restore on Mollesk and spread a Max Revive for the whole team.

And don't think you can keep ignoring my accusations that you're only making Renny a Pokebrid for an excuse to get into Lola's pants.

Oh? I thought I had written about Double Team. Must have accidently edited it out before submitting. Anyhow, Double Team can be very useful, but it's mainly having to combine it with Cosmic Power that slows it down a lot. Although later on, it might show more use since Mollesk will be strong enough to max out its defense in one turn and have time to spread Double Team during those "3 turn bonus thing" or so. The Simple Ability doubles it potency as well, so it gets evasive faster than most pokemons. (40% of dodging attacks with 1 use)

As for Mollesk's custom move, I was merely brainstorming, as I'm still thinking of stuff for the other pokemons for when I do hit Pokemon Breeder. And Umbreon is first on the list for the boosts I'm thinking of dishing out. I was just thinking how I would make Mollesk more effective to round out any flaws. That way is allowing him to recover health as he attacks, since his defense is very high so he'll take very little damage total after taking healing in consideration. But certainly not set on it.

I would like to hear from Bard and Dante regarding if they intend to use any of their items. Because, I don't want to use an item by itself unless the situation is super desperate.
Would personally prefer to spread Full Restore to everyone hurt and save the revives for when Impact/Matthias/Harriette and other Slayers or certain crucial pokemons are knocked out.

And your pokebrid accusation is incorrect. Renny is quite the gentleman, and seducing someone through the weakened willpower of the pokebrid lust alone is really quite questionable in his mind. Although he himself might feel weak to resist if Lola starts initating such attention his way, although he is the sort to take responsibility if things gets heavy.

[Dracorion]

You can't round out all the flaws. Or rather, you shouldn't. Look at every single pokemon that exists, see that they have flaws and explain to me why Mollesk should be any different.

I get that you like to powergame, but you gotta set up your own restrictions. Mollesk is already a tank, so I'm against it getting any moves that restore HP. Especially not AOE HP-draining moves. Or Evasion boosting, for that matter. Since Evasion implies speed and agility and Mollesk is supposed to be the slow kid.

And you know what you didn't rule out about my accusation? That Renny himself as a Pokebrid would go into heat. And God help Lola in that situation.

[Geminex]

Yes. But see, emotion usually does not influence the outcome of a battle. I simply see "Rage points" as an abstract value for motivation and stamina and willingness to use incredibly strong attacks.

And even with follow me, it's situational at best. Particularly since a lot of enemy attacks are multi-target with accompanying status effects.

[Dracorion]

Misnomer.

And yeah, I do agree that Mollesk is very very wrong. For example, giving it Double Team for it's whopping Speed stat of 1 was a bad move. Should've put an attack instead.

Recover isn't really all that useful when you can have a Medic use a Full Restore on Mollesk. And like Gem said, Follow Me is very situational.

[Geminex]

Double team raises evasion. Not speed. It just makes it more defensible. AND GOOD THING TOO HOW ELSE WOULD IT SURVIVE IF IT DIDN'T HAVE LUDICROUS EVASION AS WELL AS LUDICROUS DEFENSES AND HIGH HP.

[Astral Harmony]

You're not getting more Rage by being pissed. Hell, Warriors in World of Warcraft don't get it, and considering what a player in World of Warcraft, especially a Warrior class, has to put up with, they deserve more Rage for that shit than you do for the shit you put up with.

Oh teh noes. Some super Pokebrid thing kicked your ass. Might not be the last time something like that happens, though I think that's the first and last time that the main formation was hopelessly outmatched.

By the next time you fight them, I'm sure you'll be amply equipped to fight them despite the fact that they are cheaters because they Chuck Norris'd the rules that you people are bound by.

[Dracorion]

Oh, come on! We could've taken them. We totally could've taken them. We probably would've had to pull Charlotte and Matthias back in favor of their Enforcers. Then concentrated on spreading the pain around, but targetting Regina in particular for being the weakest link.

Mind you, it wouldn't have been easy. The battle would've lasted forever and we would've taken heavy casualties. But we totally would've won.

And just let Cerulean Wildfire try to finish us off after beating Pokegeddon. We just beat a team that completely breaks the game! Gimmie your best shot.

[Geminex]

I don't mind them being strong!
Just that they cheat. Can they please not cheat? It's seriously no fun, otherwise. Make them as powerful as you like, but please let there be rules that they're restricted by.

And hey, if not for Gardenoir's "Look at me! you can't hit me because FUCK YOU", we would've totally stood a chance. Even without Lexhur, we still had one hell of a lot of stuff in reserve. Though admittedly, their habit of reviving after a turn would've eventually killed us.

[Dracorion]

Bah. That only means it was the kind of gimmick battle where you have to kill all the enemies at once. Totally doable.