Assassin's Creed 3: America! Fuck Yeah!

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Shyria Dracnoir

I could easily see "Nothing is true, everything is permitted" being capitalized on by a hardcore destructive anarchist or completely self-serving personality.

That's part of why I'd personally like to see a well-done game or DLC that has you playing a Templar. Obviously not a hugely important one but significant enough that we could get a different perspective on the fight.

Now THAT would be interesting. Noble ambitions against a shadowy organization that mets out justice based on its own outlandish codes.

[Locke cole]

I think the problem with the Borgia is less that they're Templars, and thus evil, but more that they're part of the Borgia family, and thus royally screwed up, pardon the pun. I rather got the distinct feeling of them (or at least Cesare) going off and doing their own plans, regardless of what the Templar order wanted.

As for ambiguous assassinwork, there's always the scores of random schmuck guards you're always killing because they're working for the wrong people. I remember one of the repressed memories in Brotherhood, where Ezio's not-girlfriend urged him not to kill a bunch of guards just because they were in his way. That's not exactly a lesson that stuck with him. Or that French guard captain in Brotherhood who basically just made the mistake of being hired by Cesare.

I hate to use Lucrezia Borgia as a source of reliable information, but she does raise some perfectly valid points about Ezio being a hypocrite in his little... well, crusade against the Borgia/Pazzi/Templars. Heck, how often does Ezio go after Templars who don't happen to be part of his little personal revenge plot? (First, revenge for his father, then revenge for his uncle) I haven't played Revelations yet, so maybe that changes something.

I mean, the Assassins' mission statement is all about keeping people free, and all that, but they're still, well, assassins, with a fairly broad definition of "not an innocent".

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

>Trailer begins
>Start with Red Coat Officer running through the woods, panting
>Eagle screech overhead
>Cut to Assassin, high in the trees, bounding from branch to branch,
>Officer pulls sword, turns every which way, can't find who is chasing him
>Assassin drops from the trees
>Scream
>British Officer looks up, shaken, covered in small drops of blood, the Assassin pulls his tomahawk out of a Colonist Templars body, the one who had tried to kill the Brit.
>Assassin starts to say something to Officer
>Suddenly Blue Dressed Colonist forces converge on one side, Redcoats on the other, bayonets lowered and charge,
>Assassin pulls out his dagger, final shot is him about to simultaneously strike two soldiers, shot is framed so Redcoat is on the left, Assassin in the middle, Colonist on the right (RED WHITE BLUE)
>Assassin's Creed III
>2012
>DeclaretheCreed.com

If the actual trailer is anything like this, I will shut the fuck up about anything negative I have to say until the game actually comes out.

[Magus]

All I can say is they probably should have dropped their original "trilogy" aspirations even further (since they went ahead and made two sequels to the "second" game of the trilogy, after all), and covered some of the space between the Italian Reniassance and the freaking American Revolution. I'd say there was room for at least two more games in there somewhere (hopefully one involving pirates).

BUT that said this looks pretty cool. And yes, I'd say it is original to set a game during the Revolutionary War, even if you find it "western-centric". It is more original to set a game during that period than the medieval period--American nerds love knights and shit.

Only hardcore niche nerds love blunderbusses and bayonet charges. Because they realize how fucking AWESOME those are.

EDIT: Also this dude should be wearing a hat of some kind, c'mon. He's just going to stick out at this point. Maybe there are some more subtleties about the outfit I'm not picking up on but even the Reniassance Assassin outfit kind of stuck out. This is really non-stealthy.

[Krylo]

Al Mualim was the leader of the Assassins, Karesh.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Krylo

Al Mualim was the leader of the Assassins, Karesh.

Yeaah.
He was also a Templar.
As I understand it he actually started out a decent person and only went nuts after becoming a Templar.

[Locke cole]

And he was a Templar.

[Ecks]

The whole point of the game was Al Mualim double crossed the Templars to get his hands on the Apple, and then he had Altair hunt down his conspirators so the truth wouldn't get back to the order. But Altair didn't just keep his head down and do his job, he asked questions and investigated and eventually through his travels discovered the deception, and slew Al Mualim, recovering the Apple and becoming the Mentor in his place.

I'm actually rather excited for this game, it's a new direction for the series and FINALLY we're moving the actual fucking plot forward.

EDIT: 1191 posts... talking about AC1... coincidence? I THINK NOT.

[Locke cole]

So, in betraying the Templars, he solidified the continued life of the order that is their greatest enemy. Albeit accidentally.

[Ramary]

Originally Posted by Locke cole

So, in betraying the Templars, he solidified the continued life of the order that is their greatest enemy. Albeit accidentally.

Stupidly evil.