Pok�mon Umbral ~ Ruinous Origins Discussion 1 - Page 3

Arcanum · 02-22-2010, 11:41 AM

Thank Zeus for your battle summaries AB. Without them I might have dropped out since I was starting to fall behind, but now I'm back up to speed with minimal effort. Also I'll be posting in the RP shortly.

Menarker · 02-22-2010, 12:19 PM

Well, I decided that when/if we trainers get additional pokemons later on a few missions later or so, I'm thinking of Shuckle, Spiritomb or Slaking (Calling dibs in advance in a way). Although I admit the idea of having a pokemon who consists of 108 evil/sinful spirits combined in one (Spiritomb)while my main pokemon is about "Love and Peace and Joy" (Togekiss) is as crazy as most diametically opposite ideas like BlackMage/WhiteMage or Paladin/DarkKnight.

^^; weird the stuff that comes in my head sometimes.

Spirit 27: Heil Renny! We want sacrifices or we no help you!
Spirit 54: BLOOD! GORE! SOULS!
Spirit 8: Money, loot, swag, bling!
Spirit 99: AND women! LOTS OF WOMEN!
All in unison: YEAH! Tits or GTFO!

Dracorion · 02-22-2010, 12:24 PM

Hell man, I'm going with Metagross. That'll be awesome.

If AB thinks it's too overpowered for me to have two pseudo-legendaries on my team, we could make it not like Pierce and disobey orders constantly. Hell, even attack allied pokemon.

DanteFalcon · 02-22-2010, 05:55 PM

I think I want a Castform pokeshift....mmmmyes

Astral Harmony · 02-23-2010, 01:50 AM

If I forget to update on an attack from enemy Pok�mon, consider it a miss. God knows you guys have it rough considering how many Pok�mon remain to be destroyed.

Let's see...Pok�mon that have masters do not die. They're extracted right before death thanks to new Pok�ball technology. Pok�mon in Honmyr are hardcore and Pok�mon deaths have happened many times in the past, but thanks to this new technology, even Shannon's horribly, horribly near-death Abomasnow can be saved. Rogue Pok�mon, because they don't reside in a Pok�ball, are not so fortunate as Garchomp and Yanmega have proven. Perhaps for that reason, Rogue Pok�mon usually never work independantly. If a Rogue Pok�mon doesn't work with trainers and other classes, you can expect to fight a squad (Rogue Squadron?) of around six to ten Pok�mon.

Because PP isn't taken into account in this, I would have to agree that the ability Pressure is more or less pointless. Thinking on that, in the future when a Pok�mon's only ability choice is Pressure, you could choose something else, within reason. For example, Dusknoir also has Pressure. I'm not going to change it for this mission but in the future should you battle a Dusknoir, it would have an ability that kind of matches with its type, like Shadow Tag. Same with Vespiquen, which will have a different ability like Swarm...which actually makes more sense than Pressure.

Hell, I think I can use this to create some whoopass Pok�mon foes. Imagine a Giratina [Altered Forme] with Wonder Guard.

And, as for pseudo-legendaries, I don't count 'em. Have as many in your party as you like. I dunno why they call 'em pseudo-legendaries anyways. All I did in Platinum was level a Gible all the way up to a Garchomp. What part of that is legendary? I couldn't tell ya.

Menarker · 02-23-2010, 02:28 AM

>_> *Wonders if I can ask for a Spiritomb with Wonderguard*

No weaknesses means almost nigh invincible. *All damage dealt would have to be done by status afflictions, traps, weather conditions and stuff like a ghost pokemon's curse. Or the use of Foresight to give it a weakness to Fighting.*

But seriously, if I did choose Spiritomb, I would probably ask for Levitate, since Spiritomb is seen levitating in the anime (as are most pokemon). Dusknoir also had Levitate back when it was a Duskull.

Dracorion · 02-23-2010, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

(Rogue Squadron?)

God no. I'd say the Watchmen and Sharpedo are horrible enough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

And, as for pseudo-legendaries, I don't count 'em. Have as many in your party as you like. I dunno why they call 'em pseudo-legendaries anyways. All I did in Platinum was level a Gible all the way up to a Garchomp. What part of that is legendary? I couldn't tell ya.

I sense you were being rethorical, but I'm going to answer anyway. Higher-than-average stats and the fact that they evolve at a later level than other pokemon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Menarker

No weaknesses means almost nigh invincible. *All damage dealt would have to be done by status afflictions, traps, weather conditions and stuff like a ghost pokemon's curse. Or the use of Foresight to give it a weakness to Fighting.*

Or, y'know, a good old-fashioned asskicking.

Geminex · 02-23-2010, 02:52 AM

Still, stats seem to matter fairly little, so that's moot.

Though a question, what'd a Slayer's (specifically, my slayer's) equivalent stats be?

Menarker · 02-23-2010, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dracorion

Or, y'know, a good old-fashioned asskicking.

Sadly, a good asskicking would not work. Even if you had a pokemon with maxed out attack stat and Explosion or any super powerful move, if the move is not of a "super effective type" it'll do NO damage to any pokemon with Wonder-guard.

The only legit pokemon to have that ability is Shedninja who only has 1 hitpoint forever and a few weaknesses (ghost-bug type means weak against fire and flying and a few others). Ghost/Dark has no "weakpoints" so not even a Focus Punch done by a Machamp would do a single point of damage.

Hence why some hackers use Sableye and Spiritomb, giving them that ability to cheap their way out of the game.

Wonderguard pokemon ARE beatable, but they require moves that aren't basic hack'n'slash types.

Astral Harmony · 02-23-2010, 03:37 AM

Almost done with the post. I've got some really good knews for a certain Snagger.

As for Slayers, I see that there's a range of one to five dots in this guide I have for statistics. Well, Slayers are like the Mario. They're not weak in any one area, but they're not specialists, either. I guess you could say Slayer statistics are three dots across the board, mid-range in everything.

EDIT: Man, maybe I should've gave each enemy trainer less Pok�mon. Kinda feels like forever since you were in the briefing room.

02-22-2010, 11:41 AM	#21
Arcanum Strike the Earth! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 3,185	Thank Zeus for your battle summaries AB. Without them I might have dropped out since I was starting to fall behind, but now I'm back up to speed with minimal effort. Also I'll be posting in the RP shortly. __________________ POS Almighty has spoken.

02-22-2010, 12:19 PM	#22
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Well, I decided that when/if we trainers get additional pokemons later on a few missions later or so, I'm thinking of Shuckle, Spiritomb or Slaking (Calling dibs in advance in a way). Although I admit the idea of having a pokemon who consists of 108 evil/sinful spirits combined in one (Spiritomb)while my main pokemon is about "Love and Peace and Joy" (Togekiss) is as crazy as most diametically opposite ideas like BlackMage/WhiteMage or Paladin/DarkKnight. ^^; weird the stuff that comes in my head sometimes. Spirit 27: Heil Renny! We want sacrifices or we no help you! Spirit 54: BLOOD! GORE! SOULS! Spirit 8: Money, loot, swag, bling! Spirit 99: AND women! LOTS OF WOMEN! All in unison: YEAH! Tits or GTFO! __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 02-22-2010 at 12:21 PM.

02-22-2010, 12:24 PM	#23
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Hell man, I'm going with Metagross. That'll be awesome. If AB thinks it's too overpowered for me to have two pseudo-legendaries on my team, we could make it not like Pierce and disobey orders constantly. Hell, even attack allied pokemon. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away. Last edited by Dracorion; 02-22-2010 at 06:13 PM.

02-23-2010, 01:50 AM	#25
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	If I forget to update on an attack from enemy Pok�mon, consider it a miss. God knows you guys have it rough considering how many Pok�mon remain to be destroyed. Let's see...Pok�mon that have masters do not die. They're extracted right before death thanks to new Pok�ball technology. Pok�mon in Honmyr are hardcore and Pok�mon deaths have happened many times in the past, but thanks to this new technology, even Shannon's horribly, horribly near-death Abomasnow can be saved. Rogue Pok�mon, because they don't reside in a Pok�ball, are not so fortunate as Garchomp and Yanmega have proven. Perhaps for that reason, Rogue Pok�mon usually never work independantly. If a Rogue Pok�mon doesn't work with trainers and other classes, you can expect to fight a squad (Rogue Squadron?) of around six to ten Pok�mon. Because PP isn't taken into account in this, I would have to agree that the ability Pressure is more or less pointless. Thinking on that, in the future when a Pok�mon's only ability choice is Pressure, you could choose something else, within reason. For example, Dusknoir also has Pressure. I'm not going to change it for this mission but in the future should you battle a Dusknoir, it would have an ability that kind of matches with its type, like Shadow Tag. Same with Vespiquen, which will have a different ability like Swarm...which actually makes more sense than Pressure. Hell, I think I can use this to create some whoopass Pok�mon foes. Imagine a Giratina [Altered Forme] with Wonder Guard. And, as for pseudo-legendaries, I don't count 'em. Have as many in your party as you like. I dunno why they call 'em pseudo-legendaries anyways. All I did in Platinum was level a Gible all the way up to a Garchomp. What part of that is legendary? I couldn't tell ya. Last edited by Astral Harmony; 02-23-2010 at 01:58 AM.

02-23-2010, 02:28 AM	#26
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	>_> Wonders if I can ask for a Spiritomb with Wonderguard No weaknesses means almost nigh invincible. All damage dealt would have to be done by status afflictions, traps, weather conditions and stuff like a ghost pokemon's curse. Or the use of Foresight to give it a weakness to Fighting. But seriously, if I did choose Spiritomb, I would probably ask for Levitate, since Spiritomb is seen levitating in the anime (as are most pokemon). Dusknoir also had Levitate back when it was a Duskull. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL!

02-22-2010, 05:55 PM	#24
DanteFalcon Birdy Bard Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Japanland Posts: 501	I think I want a Castform pokeshift....mmmmyes

02-23-2010, 02:52 AM	#28
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Still, stats seem to matter fairly little, so that's moot. Though a question, what'd a Slayer's (specifically, my slayer's) equivalent stats be?

02-23-2010, 03:37 AM	#30
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	Almost done with the post. I've got some really good knews for a certain Snagger. As for Slayers, I see that there's a range of one to five dots in this guide I have for statistics. Well, Slayers are like the Mario. They're not weak in any one area, but they're not specialists, either. I guess you could say Slayer statistics are three dots across the board, mid-range in everything. EDIT: Man, maybe I should've gave each enemy trainer less Pok�mon. Kinda feels like forever since you were in the briefing room. Last edited by Astral Harmony; 02-23-2010 at 04:06 AM.