Dragonball Evolution: Final Thread (plus Surprise) - Page 4

Aerozord · 03-22-2009, 03:12 PM

it isn't that I'm saying you are wrong, just that it kind of defeats the purpose of making a Dragonball movie if you aren't gonna base it on dragonball. Well besides brand recognition and the fanboys that will watch it simply because its called "dragonball". Oh wait, thats exactly why they are doing it, nevermind

Marc v4.0 · 03-22-2009, 03:29 PM

Your view assumes that the Dragonball series would actully translate well into a movie, and they not doing That, and instead making something very very loosly based on it 'defeats the purpose'.

It doesn't translate well to a movie, though. It really can't. I'm not saying there isn't any "Hey, we can make money if we do this" going on, just that they didn't slap the names on actors and make what the hell ever out of it. They took a very basic overview of the Dragonball universe's main conflict (Piccolo D trying to take over) and tweaked it away from being based on the ancient mythology stories that Dragonball was original rooted around and fitted it to appeal to a more modern audience.

It's obvious they went to certain lengths to be as faithful to the characters as would be allowed by the people that tell them what to do, instead of just tossing shit actors into a made-up shit plot that has nothing to do with the show at all and then smearing it with "THIS IS DRAGONBALL YOU MUST WATCH".

There are a few examples of people trying to make accurate Dragonball movies based around the anime. You can find them easily with a little looking, and You'll then wish they were much harder to find.

Bells · 03-22-2009, 03:56 PM

Well, i'll say this... Justi Chatwin was able to pull off a Teen Goku. He really did. But the movie suffers from Bad Dialogue. Chow fat as Roshi was good too. I Mean, the thing that was bothering me after the movie was how Justin added a "ei" while doing the Kamehame-ha. it was "Kameihameiha" ... but for fuck's sake im just a nerd that way!

Aerozord · 03-22-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc v1.0

Your view assumes that the Dragonball series would actully translate well into a movie, and they not doing That, and instead making something very very loosly based on it 'defeats the purpose'.

It doesn't translate well to a movie, though. It really can't. I'm not saying there isn't any "Hey, we can make money if we do this" going on, just that they didn't slap the names on actors and make what the hell ever out of it. They took a very basic overview of the Dragonball universe's main conflict (Piccolo D trying to take over) and tweaked it away from being based on the ancient mythology stories that Dragonball was original rooted around and fitted it to appeal to a more modern audience.

It's obvious they went to certain lengths to be as faithful to the characters as would be allowed by the people that tell them what to do, instead of just tossing shit actors into a made-up shit plot that has nothing to do with the show at all and then smearing it with "THIS IS DRAGONBALL YOU MUST WATCH".

There are a few examples of people trying to make accurate Dragonball movies based around the anime. You can find them easily with a little looking, and You'll then wish they were much harder to find.

yea but then it isn't a dragonball movie then, its just a movie called dragonball. The only motivation to do so is to use the name to increase sales. Would making an accurate adaptation into a live action movie been good? Of course not. But that isn't a reason to change the plot to such a degree its source material is completely butchered. Thats a reason to never make the movie in the first place

Bells · 03-23-2009, 03:41 AM

Meanwhile in the "Holy crap is that a sequel in the horizon?" front...

Budget estimated at : $100 mil.

Worldwide Box Office results so far: $16.5 Mil

For Comparison: Watchmen Budget : $120 mil / Box Office so far: $147.4 Mil

Personal prediction for a sequel: "Only after it tops $100mil by at least 20%"
Sequel status so far: Snowball's chance in hell

Marc v4.0 · 03-23-2009, 04:14 AM

Worldwide so far it's just Asian markets, right?

synkr0nized · 03-23-2009, 07:36 AM

If it doesn't rise too much more, I'm not confident that the throng of people with bad taste here in America can save it.

Bells · 03-23-2009, 11:51 AM

ops sorry... forgot to let that clear. It's just Asian Markets.

But that's 16 mil out of 2118 screens. So yeah, it opened as #1. And it's not really that bad (the humor is pretty good and the fights are short but actually quite well done) but it needs to do better if it plans to turn in a profit

Fifthfiend · 03-23-2009, 12:56 PM

Wait.

Wait wait wait.

They spent a hundred million dollars to make the Dragonball movie?!

I mean, seriously?

Bells · 03-23-2009, 01:35 PM

$50 million for the Chun-li movie, and $100 for Dragonball which probably went most into CGI and Slow Motion stuff... which they used to illustrate goku's Ki reading, but...

There is a lot of Slow Motion stuff....

... like... there is a guy breaking the window of a car door with his fists in slow motion...

03-22-2009, 03:12 PM	#31
Aerozord So we are clear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Former murder capital of the world Posts: 13,824	it isn't that I'm saying you are wrong, just that it kind of defeats the purpose of making a Dragonball movie if you aren't gonna base it on dragonball. Well besides brand recognition and the fanboys that will watch it simply because its called "dragonball". Oh wait, thats exactly why they are doing it, nevermind __________________ "don't hate me for being a heterosexual white guy disparaging slacktivism, hate me for all those murders I've done."

03-22-2009, 03:56 PM	#33
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	Well, i'll say this... Justi Chatwin was able to pull off a Teen Goku. He really did. But the movie suffers from Bad Dialogue. Chow fat as Roshi was good too. I Mean, the thing that was bothering me after the movie was how Justin added a "ei" while doing the Kamehame-ha. it was "Kameihameiha" ... but for fuck's sake im just a nerd that way! __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

03-23-2009, 03:41 AM	#35
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	Meanwhile in the "Holy crap is that a sequel in the horizon?" front... Budget estimated at : $100 mil. Worldwide Box Office results so far: $16.5 Mil For Comparison: Watchmen Budget : $120 mil / Box Office so far: $147.4 Mil Personal prediction for a sequel: "Only after it tops $100mil by at least 20%" Sequel status so far: Snowball's chance in hell __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

03-23-2009, 07:36 AM	#37
synkr0nized synk-ism Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: throughout the Wired Posts: 6,861	If it doesn't rise too much more, I'm not confident that the throng of people with bad taste here in America can save it. __________________ Find love.

03-23-2009, 11:51 AM	#38
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	ops sorry... forgot to let that clear. It's just Asian Markets. But that's 16 mil out of 2118 screens. So yeah, it opened as #1. And it's not really that bad (the humor is pretty good and the fights are short but actually quite well done) but it needs to do better if it plans to turn in a profit __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

03-22-2009, 03:29 PM	#32
Marc v4.0 Fight Me, Nerds Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,470	Your view assumes that the Dragonball series would actully translate well into a movie, and they not doing That, and instead making something very very loosly based on it 'defeats the purpose'. It doesn't translate well to a movie, though. It really can't. I'm not saying there isn't any "Hey, we can make money if we do this" going on, just that they didn't slap the names on actors and make what the hell ever out of it. They took a very basic overview of the Dragonball universe's main conflict (Piccolo D trying to take over) and tweaked it away from being based on the ancient mythology stories that Dragonball was original rooted around and fitted it to appeal to a more modern audience. It's obvious they went to certain lengths to be as faithful to the characters as would be allowed by the people that tell them what to do, instead of just tossing shit actors into a made-up shit plot that has nothing to do with the show at all and then smearing it with "THIS IS DRAGONBALL YOU MUST WATCH". There are a few examples of people trying to make accurate Dragonball movies based around the anime. You can find them easily with a little looking, and You'll then wish they were much harder to find.

03-23-2009, 04:14 AM	#36
Marc v4.0 Fight Me, Nerds Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,470	Worldwide so far it's just Asian markets, right?

03-23-2009, 12:56 PM	#39
Fifthfiend for all seasons Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,409	Wait. Wait wait wait. They spent a hundred million dollars to make the Dragonball movie?! I mean, seriously? __________________ check out my buttspresso

03-23-2009, 01:35 PM	#40
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	$50 million for the Chun-li movie, and $100 for Dragonball which probably went most into CGI and Slow Motion stuff... which they used to illustrate goku's Ki reading, but... There is a lot of Slow Motion stuff.... ... like... there is a guy breaking the window of a car door with his fists in slow motion... __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**