Theory about Glenn Beck

[Mondt]

My mind must be playing tricks on me.

Are you telling me I'm blaming you for my opinions on the forum?

[Fifthfiend]

Oh hey here's another idea the next time you're crapping your pants about how threads on this webforum are failing to live up to your serious-ass standards for webforum threads why don't you post one of these excellent threads you think we're supposed to be having and show us all how thread-posting is done, instead of whining about how terrible it is that people want to talk about Superman comics on this nerdy as fuck webforum.

No charge for that one Brohenheim, it's on me.

[Mondt]

A simple "No" would have sufficed.

But that works too.

On a more serious note:

I'm sorry I derailed your thread. I hate to break it to you, but it wasn't going to be much of a topic anyway. You're right! I do go to other places. They suck too. Mostly. You'll notice that in the past year my participation on NPF has been limited, to say the least. Definitely a lot less than it had been. Like I said, it's been kind of a shitty night for me. No excuse! I agree. Alas, it doesn't really matter. Most of what I said applies to pretty much any sort of internet community that I've visited, NPF just was the one with a Glenn Beck thread up.

P.S. I recommend a punching bag. It'll give you a work out and help you out with all that aggression.

Just remember to work out how to punch it first. You can do some damage to your wrists if you fuck it up.

EDIT TO THE MAXIMUM: You know, I just actually closely read your last post. I don't make threads because I'm not really an idea guy. Never have been. Usually I'm pretty good at adding to ideas or morphing things into something better/more interesting. Like, I can't come up with a decent guitar riff to save my life! But if I heard something I could be like well what if you did this and that there and there? Suddenly its cooler!

[Archbio]

Originally Posted by Magus

Also if we are going to start inserting more sexual acts as analogies for our discussions I think we need to somehow include 69ing. I'm just throwing this out there.

As long as the analogies involving sex acts aren't pejorative by default.

But I suppose that's off-topic, as this is now a thread about Mondt and about what things Mondt feels negatively about. Which may or may not include negativity. I'm getting mixed signals here.

[Mondt]

Oh, sorry, I'll make a new topic if you want.

I am pretty self-important.

[Kim]

What the fuck is this shit?

No. Seriously. What the fuck is this shit?

I went away to watch Cowboy Bebop, and I come back to this? I mean, I've re-read a couple of these posts several times and I'm really just bwuhing the fuck out.

There are so many things I could say, but I really don't know what I should. The "circlejerking" claims are just pretentious horseshit. I don't know any other way to read that then "People are agreeing in a thread I don't like so fuck them." Fuck, even when the majority disagree with me I don't think I'd ever accuse them of circlejerking. It just makes no fucking sense.

The "OMG TWILIGHT" thread of supposed circlejerking more or less dropped the whole Twilight thing after the first post, and not only do you get posts about how this isn't necessarily "GRIM AND DARK" meaning no circlejerking from that angle either, but you get jokes about how he looks like the protagonist from Prototype, which isn't really anything at all.

The last time Chrono Cross was brought up, only two people really talked about it, it was a fairly reasonable back and forth, and the only person who even approached jackassery was a third person defending it.

So, I return to my previous question, Mondt. What the fuck is this shit?

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by NonCon

There are so many things I could say, but I really don't know what I should. The "circlejerking" claims are just pretentious horseshit. I don't know any other way to read that then "People are agreeing in a thread I don't like so fuck them." Fuck, even when the majority disagree with me I don't think I'd ever accuse them of circlejerking. It just makes no fucking sense.

What's amazing is he admits that it wasn't even the circlejerk he accused it of being.

Because as Mondt himself says, people actually, you know, posted differing opinions. It was actually a pretty decent - not like, WHOA THIS SHIT IS THE BEST THREAD EVERS or anything, but decent - before it got all Mondtparty up in here.

Like personally I think trolling is a fairly interesting topic to discuss, given its whole amorphous nature and how there's really not even one set definition of it, which really there even couldn't be, given its amorphous nature.

And I think it's really interesting when you start looking at a lot of types of public activity - which have gone on long before the internet came up with "trolling" as a thing - from the context of looking at them as trolling, because it's an interesting way to dig at the fundamental insincerity that seems to be at the heart of a lot of these sorts of things.

It seems like we have the Mondt thread now, I guess we could try rerailing this one? It might be too far gone now though, I don't know.

[Viridis]

Well, here's Beck being a douche Beck because another book* sold more than his on release day.

*A really neat book by David Malki !, Ryan North, and a lot of other people.


Another link about it.

[Kim]

I think a good question to ask is what sort of bare minimum is needed to unify all the different trolling forms/methods. Is it something as simple as insincerity? Having seen Glenn Beck make the comments about gay marriage that he did ("If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket what difference is it to me?"), I suspect he's very sincere about what he believes, which really makes it all the more terrifying.

[Magus]

Originally Posted by NonCon

I think a good question to ask is what sort of bare minimum is needed to unify all the different trolling forms/methods. Is it something as simple as insincerity? Having seen Glenn Beck make the comments about gay marriage that he did ("If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket what difference is it to me?"), I suspect he's very sincere about what he believes, which really makes it all the more terrifying.

So he doesn't oppose gay marriage, then? Or Islam? Since the whole quote reads like this:

The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. – Thomas Jefferson (1781)

Also he stole my chance to quote Thomas Jefferson like a good libertarian would.

What does Glenn Beck oppose? Big government, I would surmise. What does Big Government do that he hates? If it is not the laws they enact to protect people I am assuming it is social programs, which are paid for by taxes. So what Glenn Beck hates are taxes, even though the 16th Amendment allows for taxes:

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Then again when Tea Partiers talk about the Constitution, they seem to define it as only the Bill of Rights so I guess the 16th Amendment is Unconstitutional to them.

For some reason they don't seem to talk about getting rid of the 16th Amendment very much, despite probably being able to get support from even liberals who dislike taxes. For some reason they were focusing on the 14th Amendment and Mexican Anchor Babies despite this having little to do with stopping Big Government.