A Challenge To All The Gamers Of NPF

Seil · 12-01-2008, 10:20 PM

If you're like me, you have a shelf/CD Book filled with games. Great games. Fantastic games. Games that you will defend to the death. Games that you haven't played since you've beaten them. So here's the challenge:

Find a game that you haven't played in a while. That's just sitting on your shelf collecting dust. Then give it a play through. Tell us what game and if you think it's still good, what you noticed on you second play through - that sorta thing.

Terex4 · 12-01-2008, 11:23 PM

I've actually done this very recently with Final Fantasy IV and VI.

One major difference between playing them now as opposed to when I was 10 is my understanding of magic vs. melee.

Final Fantasy IV:

Edge still sucks.
Tellah, FuSoYa, and Rydia are total badasses.
The Evil Wall is now a pussy.
I used to get petrified all the time which is really sad since just about every petrification effect takes several rounds to fully work.
Plague is still a bitch. I hates him so much.
I no longer require much healing, making casting white a viable option.
I'm no longer afraid of using ethers or elixers prior to the final boss.
Golbez rules.
Rubicant used to hand me my ass and feed it to me through a pacifier (yes a pacifier, not a bottle).
Palom and Porom are very fun to have around.
Virus is an incredibly useful spell, venom still cries itself to sleep at night holding drain.
Edward is still useless.
The game is very easy to beat but has enough gimmick fights to keep it interesting. My biggest beef with the game is that you never get to choose your party leaving you stuck with Edge in the end. (I would have chosen Porom). Places like the Dark Elf's cave present a unique challenge that really spices things up.

Final Fantasy VI:

My original favorite party was Sabin, Sabin, Sabin, and Sabin but since that was never an option I ran with Sabin, Edgar, Gogo, and Shadow. Years later my party makeup and theme changed drastically.

I discovered that:
Cyan doesn't suck as bad as I thought he did.
Ultima is not the only spell worth casting. Just the only one worth casting with an economizer and gem box.
Earrings fucking rock.
Relm kicks ass.
The Atma Weapon sucks ass (yes I was doing it right).
Kefka's a pansy in battle yet still remains a badass in story and plot.
No there is still no way to get to the half submerged house in Mobliz.
Strago still sucks.
I finally figured out how esper form works and I love it.
My new favorite ending party is Terra, Celes, Relm, and Setzer.
I finally figured out how to use Setzer right and I love it.
Fixed dice are fun.
Phunbaba has a stupid and/or silly name.

Final Fantasy VI still has one of the best story lines in any game IMO. Kefka is a fun villain and you learn to dread hearing that laugh of his from off screen. I've never seen Chaotic Evil so perfectly portrayed. I love the ability to choose any party you want without being forced to keep one central character throughout the entire game. The difference in character stats does grant specialization for each character but they are still all viable in any capacity you decide to build them up in. I'm all for options and customization.

EVILNess · 12-01-2008, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seil

If you're like me, you have a shelf/CD Book filled with games. Great games. Fantastic games. Games that you will defend to the death. Games that you haven't played since you've beaten them. So here's the challenge:

Find a game that you haven't played in a while. That's just sitting on your shelf collecting dust. Then give it a play through. Tell us what game and if you think it's still good, what you noticed on you second play through - that sorta thing.

I wold love too, but I can't because I have a backlog of 24 games I have purchased in the last 6 months that I haven't even played, let alone beat.

phil_ · 12-02-2008, 01:10 AM

I'll get back at ya Seil when I'm sober, have decided on a game to replay, and have actually finished it.

Though, I replayed Ristar a few weeks ago (ok, maybe it was in September) and it was still awesome. And Mike and I beat Sonic 2 for the first time a little before that, and it's still fun. Really, it's weird that I couldn't beat the last boss for Sonic 2 before.

But, yeah, maybe I'll play Chester Cheetah or Twilight Princess or something for you.

Dular · 12-02-2008, 01:19 AM

That is impossible for me, for I replay all my good old games at least once every 2 months.

Never gets old.

Mirai Gen · 12-02-2008, 04:09 AM

What the hell, Seil? Mid-December? That's not cool.

I'm totally up for doing it in like two, three months, but jeeze.

mauve · 12-02-2008, 05:27 AM

Whaddaya know! I just replayed the original Devil May Cry.

The first thing I realized is that, no, I wasn't hallucinating: The voice acting really WAS horrible. I mean, I liked Dante's voice in the game; it suited him. But some of the dialogue is truly cringe-worthy.

Second, I realized that DMC3 has spoiled me in terms of orb farming, level replaying, and being able to carry as many health items as I want. The original wants to you treat the game like a survival game-- You have one health star and whatever health you can squeeze out of your Devil Trigger: At that point Capcom says "Here's a sword and a couple Band-Aids. Now go out there and try not to die." DMC3 is more of an action title: Yeah there are demons trying to kill you. And yes, it's still got quite the difficulty level. But here, let us give you sixty ways to destroy said demons and look cool doing it. Both games are enjoyable, it was just difficult to switch between those two strategies after so long. Once I got back into it, though, I actually breezed through many of the levels much faster than I remember doing the first time I played it.

Another thing I learned: I STILL F-ING HATE THE FINAL NIGHTMARE. And bosses who suddenly start doing different attacks after you die and have to start over again. I'd just figure out what I had done wrong and come up with a new strategy, and suddenly it's doing six different attacks as though the ones that killed me last time never existed. Some bosses I only managed to defeat because they randomly decided that in this particular replay they wouldn't use any of the attacks that insta-kill me. (Or, alternately, I'd get so pissed off that I'd just spam Holy Water at it while cursing loudly, until it died or I ran out of Holy Water. Cursing helps.)

And before you ask, yes, I am a crappy gamer and no I'm not an expert at DMC.

On the plus side, I realized that I have improved as a gamer, somewhat. Many of the enemies I remember being freakishly hard the first time turned out to be relatively simple to defeat if you at least TRY not to die. I realized the other day that I spent my first playthrough using nothing but Ifrit, and survived by doing the jump attack over and over again to defeat every single enemy. Durrrr, tactics!

I am, however, still guilty of using nothing but Ebony and Ivory. >.> Wait, no, that's a lie. I did use the shotgun occasionally, if only because it's darkly amusing to shoot marionettes at point blank and send them flying across the room.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk · 12-02-2008, 08:01 AM

I would take up this challenge, but a) I still have too much Warhawk and LBP to play and b) it would mean unplugging my ps3 and putting the ps2 back on in order to play my old games and I really am a lazy bastard.

And non of my ps3 games can really be considered Old yet, seeing as I bought all of them this year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mauve Mage

Nightmare

I know your pain. Second time I fought him the guy stuck himself to the ceiling at the start of the fight and I was just like, "What the fuck man?! How am I supposed to kill you up there when you're impervious to all harm until you get zapped by those damn circle thingies on the floor which you can't get zapped by cos you're on the goddamn ceiling!?!" And then he turned into a cage and imprisoned me in a private hell and I had to fight 3 bosses back to back before I could escape and go back to fighting him properly, which was just enraging beyond belief.

Fucking Nightmare!

Seil · 12-02-2008, 08:51 AM

I only ask, 'cause I've been starting up XIII, Defiance, Assassin's Creed and Spawn.

And I totally forgot how awesome they were.

Ryong · 12-02-2008, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seil

I only ask, 'cause I've been starting up XIII, Defiance, Assassin's Creed and Spawn.

I instantly assumed FFXIII and went "wtf? Seil has a game from the future?" and then remembered about XIII. >_<

I started replaying Super Metroid yesterday. I still hate Phantom or whatever is the name of the thing that uses fire and is invisible half of the time.

12-01-2008, 10:20 PM	#1
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	A Challenge To All The Gamers Of NPF If you're like me, you have a shelf/CD Book filled with games. Great games. Fantastic games. Games that you will defend to the death. Games that you haven't played since you've beaten them. So here's the challenge: Find a game that you haven't played in a while. That's just sitting on your shelf collecting dust. Then give it a play through. Tell us what game and if you think it's still good, what you noticed on you second play through - that sorta thing.

12-02-2008, 01:10 AM	#4
phil_ Just sleeping Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: At home, probably in bed. Posts: 6,482	I'll get back at ya Seil when I'm sober, have decided on a game to replay, and have actually finished it. Though, I replayed Ristar a few weeks ago (ok, maybe it was in September) and it was still awesome. And Mike and I beat Sonic 2 for the first time a little before that, and it's still fun. Really, it's weird that I couldn't beat the last boss for Sonic 2 before. But, yeah, maybe I'll play Chester Cheetah or Twilight Princess or something for you. __________________ Be T-Rexcellent to each other, tako.

12-02-2008, 01:19 AM	#5
Dular Eye see you. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: If you look over there, I'll be here. Posts: 236	That is impossible for me, for I replay all my good old games at least once every 2 months. Never gets old. __________________ People forget that pandas are still a couple hundred pounds of goddamn bear.

12-02-2008, 04:09 AM	#6
Mirai Gen We are Geth. Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 14,032	What the hell, Seil? Mid-December? That's not cool. I'm totally up for doing it in like two, three months, but jeeze. __________________

12-02-2008, 05:27 AM	#7
mauve So Dreamy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Someplace magical Posts: 6,863	Whaddaya know! I just replayed the original Devil May Cry. The first thing I realized is that, no, I wasn't hallucinating: The voice acting really WAS horrible. I mean, I liked Dante's voice in the game; it suited him. But some of the dialogue is truly cringe-worthy. Second, I realized that DMC3 has spoiled me in terms of orb farming, level replaying, and being able to carry as many health items as I want. The original wants to you treat the game like a survival game-- You have one health star and whatever health you can squeeze out of your Devil Trigger: At that point Capcom says "Here's a sword and a couple Band-Aids. Now go out there and try not to die." DMC3 is more of an action title: Yeah there are demons trying to kill you. And yes, it's still got quite the difficulty level. But here, let us give you sixty ways to destroy said demons and look cool doing it. Both games are enjoyable, it was just difficult to switch between those two strategies after so long. Once I got back into it, though, I actually breezed through many of the levels much faster than I remember doing the first time I played it. Another thing I learned: I STILL F-ING HATE THE FINAL NIGHTMARE. And bosses who suddenly start doing different attacks after you die and have to start over again. I'd just figure out what I had done wrong and come up with a new strategy, and suddenly it's doing six different attacks as though the ones that killed me last time never existed. Some bosses I only managed to defeat because they randomly decided that in this particular replay they wouldn't use any of the attacks that insta-kill me. (Or, alternately, I'd get so pissed off that I'd just spam Holy Water at it while cursing loudly, until it died or I ran out of Holy Water. Cursing helps.) And before you ask, yes, I am a crappy gamer and no I'm not an expert at DMC. On the plus side, I realized that I have improved as a gamer, somewhat. Many of the enemies I remember being freakishly hard the first time turned out to be relatively simple to defeat if you at least TRY not to die. I realized the other day that I spent my first playthrough using nothing but Ifrit, and survived by doing the jump attack over and over again to defeat every single enemy. Durrrr, tactics! I am, however, still guilty of using nothing but Ebony and Ivory. >.> Wait, no, that's a lie. I did use the shotgun occasionally, if only because it's darkly amusing to shoot marionettes at point blank and send them flying across the room. __________________ Yoo Hoo!

12-02-2008, 08:51 AM	#9
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	I only ask, 'cause I've been starting up XIII, Defiance, Assassin's Creed and Spawn. And I totally forgot how awesome they were.