Think I found the influence for Sarda...

BattyAsHell · 10-25-2009, 09:25 PM

I'm reading through Neil Gaiman's "Book of Magic" now, and there's a part where a young Merlin tells the tale of his entire life to come, from his triumphs to his greatest failures. The main character asks why, if he knows all this, he can't simply do something else? And Merlin's reply basically amounts to any one of Sardas... "I must do as I will", and other ambiguous answers.

I don't know if Brian Clevinger read the series, but if this represents some of his influences, he has very good taste.

TimeSpaceMage · 10-29-2009, 12:01 PM

That reminds me of "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court", where the main character replaced Merlin for the majority of the story by introducing inventions like the bicycle and (well) using science.

Martyr · 10-29-2009, 07:13 PM

Yeah, since that's probably the only real source of wizards who give ambiguous answers.
Who speak in riddles, if you wi
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I have another idea about the main influence:

EnuoCale · 10-31-2009, 02:58 AM

I think the main influence is actually Batman. Sarda+Batman= Parents killed, Sarda+Batman= training a long time for revenge, Sarda+Batman= Unstoppable, it goes on... The similarities are uncanny.

Geminex · 10-31-2009, 04:09 AM

Batman. Did not. Have a moustache.

QED

Veho · 10-31-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Geminex

Batman. Did not. Have a moustache.

QED

But "Matches" Malone did.

Zeku · 10-31-2009, 08:56 PM

In The Once and Future King, a significantly older book, Merlin lives his life completely backwards. The first time he meets Arthur he's very sad, because to him, it's the last time he'll ever see him.

I'm not saying that's the source either, I'm just saying that these kinds of plots aren't new in any way. Remember that "prophesies" started with the Bible or earlier.

Veho · 11-01-2009, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BattyAsHell

And Merlin's reply basically amounts to any one of Sardas... "I must do as I will", and other ambiguous answers.

"You can't do something you haven't yet done differently than how it will come to be done"?

10-25-2009, 09:25 PM	#1
BattyAsHell Troopa Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 77	Think I found the influence for Sarda... I'm reading through Neil Gaiman's "Book of Magic" now, and there's a part where a young Merlin tells the tale of his entire life to come, from his triumphs to his greatest failures. The main character asks why, if he knows all this, he can't simply do something else? And Merlin's reply basically amounts to any one of Sardas... "I must do as I will", and other ambiguous answers. I don't know if Brian Clevinger read the series, but if this represents some of his influences, he has very good taste.

10-29-2009, 12:01 PM	#2
TimeSpaceMage Yes, a hat riding a mage Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: In burlap sack at the end of World 7-4 Posts: 35	That reminds me of "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court", where the main character replaced Merlin for the majority of the story by introducing inventions like the bicycle and (well) using science. __________________ Proud member of the US Air Force.

10-29-2009, 07:13 PM	#3
Martyr Whatever Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Around. Here, there... Posts: 838	Yeah, since that's probably the only real source of wizards who give ambiguous answers. Who speak in riddles, if you wi ll. I have another idea about the main influence: __________________ Behold the Nightmare

10-31-2009, 02:58 AM	#4
EnuoCale Troopa Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 38	I think the main influence is actually Batman. Sarda+Batman= Parents killed, Sarda+Batman= training a long time for revenge, Sarda+Batman= Unstoppable, it goes on... The similarities are uncanny. __________________ :thief:I just checked the navigational log.A few things occur to me. :rmage:Shoot. :thief:One:this is not a very good ship.

10-31-2009, 04:09 AM	#5
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Batman. Did not. Have a moustache. QED

10-31-2009, 08:56 PM	#7
Zeku Goomba Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 11	In The Once and Future King, a significantly older book, Merlin lives his life completely backwards. The first time he meets Arthur he's very sad, because to him, it's the last time he'll ever see him. I'm not saying that's the source either, I'm just saying that these kinds of plots aren't new in any way. Remember that "prophesies" started with the Bible or earlier.