AVP Review thread. (Spoilers)

Magic E-Mail Chicken · 08-13-2004, 07:55 PM

This is an Alien V.S. Preadator thread for reviews of the movie. Post your opinions of it here.

Note: Spoilers are going to follow, so if you want to see the movie, be careful what you read.

Personally, i thought it was pretty good. They seem to be linking the movie to the old ones to answer some questions in the old movies. The fact that a predator worked with a human was pretty cool. I liked how they ballanced things with 3 predators agenst 10+ aliens. But, one alien took out 2 of the preds, they must have been rookies as far as predators go. Calling It a war didnt sound quite right. It was more of a very very important hunt. Over all good movie. They left it open for a sequal!

Ex Theory: Ship that predators are in at end is the ship with all of the eggs in it in "Alien".

Venice · 08-13-2004, 08:00 PM

The Yuat-ja (Predator) rite of passage is hunting down "hard meat" aka xenomorphs aka aliens. So they were basicly teenager predators.

And no, no, NO! I hate you, I hate you whoever wrote that. That completely demystifies teh great Space Jockey part of Alien. That can't be right, thats not canon. The Space Jockeys created the Xenomorphs, they are an ancient race that destroyed themselves pretty much via the Xenomorphs. Thats a Space Jockey ship, definately NOT a predator ship.

Plus, this isn't a prequel, I thought it was a sequel. So the theory is wrong. Unless by Ex Theory you mean proven wrong. I may be wrong about the sequel thing, I haven't seen it, but so far this hasn't spoiled much.

Magic E-Mail Chicken · 08-13-2004, 08:14 PM

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Plus, this isn't a prequel, I thought it was a sequel

The movie plot starts in october of 2004. "Alien" starts in year 2037. Thus, it is a prequal to (at least) the alien quadrillidgy.

And that was just MY theory, just a thought. It could easily be wrong, but i like to look for connections in movies. But, if you saw the end of the movie, you would know where i got the theory and what the sequal option is. There be an alien in the predator they take back on their ship.

Venice · 08-13-2004, 08:31 PM

Ah, sorry about that, I don't much about the new movie, but I'm still looking foward to it. When I see it soon, I'll give my review.

h4x.m4g3 · 08-13-2004, 09:50 PM

Didn't see the movie (yett) read the book. I still consider myself justified to review although I may mention parts that were ommited.

The thing, I didn't like was that they proclaimed it as a war too much in the trailers and it turns out to just be a proving grounds type of thing. The fact that the predators breed the aliens in order to prove themselves was a startling revelation. To comment on why the one alien beat two predators, it was the Alpha Alien (not queen but the head of the pack) and the Predators did not have their major weapons (the shoulder cannon and what not.)

Venice · 08-13-2004, 09:56 PM

Yes, I believe normally a yaut-ja is supposed to use only his wrist blades in some of these hunts, at least some do, probally not during the rite of passage. I found it very interesting myself.

Illuminatus · 08-13-2004, 11:21 PM

I saw it. I liked it even. I was expecting a stupid-ass redneck movie and got a half-decent sci-fi flick. I am thoroughly pleased. They did a good job of building on the previous movies, without any obvious errors regarding canon. (Unlike Alien: Ressurection...grrr) My only complaint is that they might as well have added blood and guts and made it R. That's kind of an important part of both Predator and Alien.

Still, definitely a geek "must-see"

Stover · 08-14-2004, 12:08 AM

I thought it was ok. I've never seen neither the Alien nor the Predator movies (I'd like to see Predator, but fuck Alien and its facehuggers). The part with the predator making the girl a weapon was stupid. The predator's jump/slash at the very end was neato.

I give it a solid "Meh"

Deathosaurus Wrecks · 08-14-2004, 12:41 AM

I was very much suprised at this movie. i've been pumping myself up for a two hour long suck fest, but the movie just failed to deliver that.

the first half of the movie is fantastic. the switches between the humans, aliens, and preditors did a great job of showing what was going on. obviously the director played the games (or at least saw them), as the preditor's tracking system and the vision modes were very cool to see in action.

the second half though, i didn't like so much. the battle with the queen alien reminded me too much of the T-rex in Jurassic Park; and i too didn't dig the whole alien-husk weapons. also, special note to anyone who wants to make an action movie: you can't outrun a nuclear explosion. i don't care how fast your bobsled moves, you just cant do it.

and finaly, i think they could have stood to cut out alot of that exposition in the middle of the movie. it just seemed to slow things down and state the glaringly obvious; actualy, i think there could have been alot less of the humans all together (seeing as the movie was called "AvP").

so, i give it a "Not as bad as you'd think" overall.

Magic E-Mail Chicken · 08-14-2004, 10:57 AM

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you can't outrun a nuclear explosion. i don't care how fast your bobsled moves, you just cant do it

Well, it wasnt a human made explosive, it was of Yaut-ja make. Thus, it can be assumed that it was designed to be escapable by the one who sets it, and on top of that, they had a head start. Whoever said that it was nuclear?

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The part with the predator making the girl a weapon was stupid

Well, she proved that she had the courage to attack and kill an alien, and the best thing you can show a predator is courage. Ergo, the predator decided that she could be of some use in killing the aliens, but she was no good unarmed.

08-13-2004, 07:55 PM	#1
Magic E-Mail Chicken Internet-Mage Chicken Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The Internet. Posts: 490	AVP Review thread. (Spoilers) This is an Alien V.S. Preadator thread for reviews of the movie. Post your opinions of it here. Note: Spoilers are going to follow, so if you want to see the movie, be careful what you read. Personally, i thought it was pretty good. They seem to be linking the movie to the old ones to answer some questions in the old movies. The fact that a predator worked with a human was pretty cool. I liked how they ballanced things with 3 predators agenst 10+ aliens. But, one alien took out 2 of the preds, they must have been rookies as far as predators go. Calling It a war didnt sound quite right. It was more of a very very important hunt. Over all good movie. They left it open for a sequal! Ex Theory: Ship that predators are in at end is the ship with all of the eggs in it in "Alien". __________________ Chicken Time!

08-13-2004, 08:00 PM	#2
Venice Being John Malkovich Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somewhere, OK Posts: 82	The Yuat-ja (Predator) rite of passage is hunting down "hard meat" aka xenomorphs aka aliens. So they were basicly teenager predators. And no, no, NO! I hate you, I hate you whoever wrote that. That completely demystifies teh great Space Jockey part of Alien. That can't be right, thats not canon. The Space Jockeys created the Xenomorphs, they are an ancient race that destroyed themselves pretty much via the Xenomorphs. Thats a Space Jockey ship, definately NOT a predator ship. Plus, this isn't a prequel, I thought it was a sequel. So the theory is wrong. Unless by Ex Theory you mean proven wrong. I may be wrong about the sequel thing, I haven't seen it, but so far this hasn't spoiled much. __________________ :bmage: Knowledge for knowledge's sake is a bad motive. Power is by far the most applicable use of knowledge. :rmage: The only thing we have to fear, is half-black dragon troll deathknights. Disclaimer: No, those are not real 8-bit theatre quotes, but they fit the characters in my opinion and I thought it was clever. So nyah to the naysayers I naysay!

08-13-2004, 08:31 PM	#4
Venice Being John Malkovich Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somewhere, OK Posts: 82	Ah, sorry about that, I don't much about the new movie, but I'm still looking foward to it. When I see it soon, I'll give my review. __________________ :bmage: Knowledge for knowledge's sake is a bad motive. Power is by far the most applicable use of knowledge. :rmage: The only thing we have to fear, is half-black dragon troll deathknights. Disclaimer: No, those are not real 8-bit theatre quotes, but they fit the characters in my opinion and I thought it was clever. So nyah to the naysayers I naysay!

08-13-2004, 09:56 PM	#6
Venice Being John Malkovich Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somewhere, OK Posts: 82	Yes, I believe normally a yaut-ja is supposed to use only his wrist blades in some of these hunts, at least some do, probally not during the rite of passage. I found it very interesting myself. __________________ :bmage: Knowledge for knowledge's sake is a bad motive. Power is by far the most applicable use of knowledge. :rmage: The only thing we have to fear, is half-black dragon troll deathknights. Disclaimer: No, those are not real 8-bit theatre quotes, but they fit the characters in my opinion and I thought it was clever. So nyah to the naysayers I naysay!

08-13-2004, 11:21 PM	#7
Illuminatus The Dread Pirate Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Where the wild things are Posts: 1,310	I saw it. I liked it even. I was expecting a stupid-ass redneck movie and got a half-decent sci-fi flick. I am thoroughly pleased. They did a good job of building on the previous movies, without any obvious errors regarding canon. (Unlike Alien: Ressurection...grrr) My only complaint is that they might as well have added blood and guts and made it R. That's kind of an important part of both Predator and Alien. Still, definitely a geek "must-see" __________________ Man, n. An animal so lost in rapturous contemplation of what he thinks he is as to overlook what he indubitably ought to be. His chief occupation is the extermination of other animals and his own species, which, however, multiplies with such insistent rapidity as to infest the whole habitable earth and Canada. -Ambrose Bierce's Devil's Dictionary

08-13-2004, 09:50 PM	#5
h4x.m4g3 Lakitu Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,152	Didn't see the movie (yett) read the book. I still consider myself justified to review although I may mention parts that were ommited. The thing, I didn't like was that they proclaimed it as a war too much in the trailers and it turns out to just be a proving grounds type of thing. The fact that the predators breed the aliens in order to prove themselves was a startling revelation. To comment on why the one alien beat two predators, it was the Alpha Alien (not queen but the head of the pack) and the Predators did not have their major weapons (the shoulder cannon and what not.)

08-14-2004, 12:08 AM	#8
Stover Uncommonly common. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Level 19. Posts: 1,233	I thought it was ok. I've never seen neither the Alien nor the Predator movies (I'd like to see Predator, but fuck Alien and its facehuggers). The part with the predator making the girl a weapon was stupid. The predator's jump/slash at the very end was neato. I give it a solid "Meh" __________________ The Loop. O x Me.

08-14-2004, 12:41 AM	#9
Deathosaurus Wrecks Underachiever Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,996	I was very much suprised at this movie. i've been pumping myself up for a two hour long suck fest, but the movie just failed to deliver that. the first half of the movie is fantastic. the switches between the humans, aliens, and preditors did a great job of showing what was going on. obviously the director played the games (or at least saw them), as the preditor's tracking system and the vision modes were very cool to see in action. the second half though, i didn't like so much. the battle with the queen alien reminded me too much of the T-rex in Jurassic Park; and i too didn't dig the whole alien-husk weapons. also, special note to anyone who wants to make an action movie: you can't outrun a nuclear explosion. i don't care how fast your bobsled moves, you just cant do it. and finaly, i think they could have stood to cut out alot of that exposition in the middle of the movie. it just seemed to slow things down and state the glaringly obvious; actualy, i think there could have been alot less of the humans all together (seeing as the movie was called "AvP"). so, i give it a "Not as bad as you'd think" overall. __________________ "There was another, who came before you he was a hero and your brother and my son he fought the darkenss, the darkness won" -The Protomen "Unrest in the House of Light"