FFFFFFFYESSS POKEMANZ

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

Dunno bout the Stunky, as far as Budew is concerned...

1) Vitamins. Yeah, they add ten EVs per vitamin, but as long as you're selective on the ones you use (and you have the cash to spare) go for it.

2) Veilstone City has a girl in a house that will give your Pokemon a massage. This will boost the happiness rating, and you will get one seemingly random Accessory for your Fashion Case. You can do this once per day.

3) I think Rare Candies also boost happiness.

4) Have your Pokemon hold a Soothe Bell. This doubles the happiness gain of each and every method.

5) Lastly, just walking around with it in your party gives it small boosts to happiness.

After you hit max happiness (You can check with the Happiness Checker app that you get in Solaceon Town's Pokemon Center; two hearts shows high happiness, two HUEG hearts is max happiness) you just need to raise your Pokemon's level by one and Presto Change-o! You'll have a Roselia. Roserade after Shiny Stone.

Awesome thanks. I am still trying to get my DS online.

By the way, what would you rate Wooper and Croagunk?

[Ecks]

Awesome thanks. I am still trying to get my DS online.

By the way, what would you rate Wooper and Croagunk?

Wooper is a poor man's Barboach. Croagunk, while 4x weak to Psychics, has some good moves, and isn't a bad Fighting type. Also, I added in a bit about poffins in that last post I made.

[POS Industries]

Why did I not think of that, first and foremost?
Well, he apparently can't get an Eevee anytime soon anyway, so I guess it's not really a viable option for him.

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

Wooper is a poor man's Barboach. Croagunk, while 4x weak to Psychics, has some good moves, and isn't a bad Fighting type. Also, I added in a bit about poffins in that last post I made.

Incidentally I caught both a Barboach and a Wooper.

[Regulus Tera]

http://i43.tinypic.com/3501ke1.jpg

Grass Fashion Designer is so smug I want to punch him.
Fire Sprinting Pig is so retarded I want to punch him.
Water Gingerbread Man is so ugly I want to punch him.

The starter is getting the fuck out of my party as soon as I get a seventh Pokeyman.

The female trainer design is the best of all Gens so far.
The male trainer design is better than Gen III's and IV's.

[Token]

Tyra Banks Treecko is smug as FUCK, BURNING BACON is so fucking adorable I might not evolve it, and I have no idea what the fuck that Water monstrosity is. Polar Bear? Snowman? Crappy Piplup redesign?

Also, digging the trainer designs.

Thanks to /v/, I now know what I will be calling BURNING BACON: Larfleeze. FUCK YES.

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

I like the Water Panda thing. The Grass starter doesn't really do it for me and Fire Pig is okay I guess. But I do like Water Panda.

[Donomni]

I think the water starter is an otter.

Also, there goes any idea of an older protagonist this time around(That and the concept art I saw and posted was either unused or totally bogus).

[bluestarultor]

I dunno, I think they're at least as good as the Gen IV starters. And better than Gen III.

Basically, I think they're okay and they fit with the newer Pokemon style. Could be worse.

[Token]

I think the water starter is an otter.

Also, there goes any idea of an older protagonist this time around(That and the concept art I saw and posted was either unused or totally bogus).

According to Corocoro, these protagonists are older than any of the previous ones.

As for the starters, SMUGLEAF (Tsutaja) is a "Grass Snake," PIGNITION (Pokabu) is a "Fire Pig," and IDONTEVEN (Mijumaru) is a "Sea Otter." I'm pretty much torn between SMUGLEAF and BURNING BACON at this point. They both seem like complete Bros.

[greed]

Damn those trainers have got big hair. Guy looks like he should be in some unshaven indie rock band and the girl looks like she should be working at a beauty salon or something. Both are good though, unlike beret boy from DPP. On the pokemon, I like the fire pig, though the water otter thing is cool too. And yeah tree lizard looks ridiculously smug so not using that unless it gets a evolution way better than it's first stage like Sceptile and Torterra, or the others get really lame ones, like Meganium.

So do we know anything about the region like what part of Japan it's based on or what kind of environment it has? That usually gives some details about what pokemon to expect.

[Melfice]

It's not a panda, Mac.
It's got flippers and... a beaver-like tail?

I'm leaning towards a platypus, really, but the head doesn't make sense.
Are we sure these are the official starters, 'cause really guys? These guys are UGLY.

EDIT:
Greed: You got a problem with unshaven? >:(

[Donomni]

Related! (http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/9/2010/05/81f75f34fd6dc43241fcd733d9d7c77b/original.png)

[greed]

Are we sure these are the official starters, 'cause really guys? These guys are UGLY.

Greed: You got a problem with unshaven? >:(

I dunno fire pig looks pretty great really. Only water otter looks really damn weird but I think they were going for a sort of snowman look. Wonder if it will have water/ice typing?

Also I've got no problem with unshaven, currently am very much unshaven myself, tend only to clip it to stop chinbeard forming. Also very much in need of a hair cut, but I'm reluctant to go as it currently keeps my ears warm pretty well.

[Token]

So do we know anything about the region like what part of Japan it's based on or what kind of environment it has? That usually gives some details about what pokemon to expect.

According to the scan, the first Generation V games will be set in the region known as 「イッシュ」 Isshu, which is quite a distance away from all previous regions. The magazine scan implies that the region is a foreign place that must be traveled to by boat or airplane. Legendary Pok?mon reports that a new location titled 「ヒウンシティ」Hiun City will possibly be in the games, though this has yet to be confirmed via scan.

People are speculating that it's gonna be China or Northeastern America.

[bluestarultor]

I dunno fire pig looks pretty great really. Only water otter looks really damn weird but I think they were going for a sort of snowman look. Wonder if it will have water/ice typing?

I think it's cute. And besides, otters DO have rather big noses. They're also fucking awesome.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2m5f2b5.jpg

That is BEER there, man!

[greed]

Yeah otters are great even if they do stink to high hell. Just think that snowman/otter thing there is over designed.

According to the scan, the first Generation V games will be set in the region known as 「イッシュ」 Isshu, which is quite a distance away from all previous regions. The magazine scan implies that the region is a foreign place that must be traveled to by boat or airplane. Legendary Pok?mon reports that a new location titled 「ヒウンシティ」Hiun City will possibly be in the games, though this has yet to be confirmed via scan.

People are speculating that it's gonna be China or Northeastern America.

That sounds pretty cool, I was wondering where'd they go as they'd covered all the major regions of Japan I was familiar with.

[Azisien]

If they don't have proper elemental environments in this game I am gonna flip a table!

[Julford Hajime]

Man, you guys are missing the obvious connection here. They practically made Bidoof a starter.

But yeah I like the Grass, Water, Fire starters in that order. All I'm asking for is a Grass starter that is a decent Special Attacker, is that too much to ask?

PS: No Sceptile doesn't count.

[Ecks]

Man, you guys are missing the obvious connection here. They practically made Bidoof a starter.

But yeah I like the Grass, Water, Fire starters in that order. All I'm asking for is a Grass starter that is a decent Special Attacker, is that too much to ask?

PS: No Sceptile doesn't count.

Yeah, Sceptile doesn't count because his best attack is PHYSICAL. Totally lame.

Venusaur WAS a decent Special Attacker... before Gen II and IV made it fubar.

[Token]

Venusaur WAS a decent Special Attacker... before Gen II and IV made it fubar.

before Gen II and IV made it fubar.

before Gen II

Gen II

>Implying Venusaur ever had a chance to shine in Gen I despite being a Poison type in an era of Psychics.

[Ecks]

>Implying Venusaur ever had a chance to shine in Gen I despite being a Poison type in an era of Psychics.

>Implying anyone who was a serious competitive player in Gen I didn't ban Psychics to the Uber tier.

[Julford Hajime]

>Implying anyone who was a serious competitive player in Gen I didn't ban Psychics to the Uber tier.

Alakazam, maybe, but most other Psychics were typically tolerable. Of note was Exeggutor, Slowbro, and Starmie, who were pretty much the kings of competetive play.

[phil_]

">Implying?" Really? With the greater than sign and everything? That makes me sick. Why would you do that?

[POS Industries]

>Implying Venusaur ever had a chance to shine in Gen I despite being a Poison type in an era of Psychics.
>Implying anyone who was a serious competitive player in Gen I didn't ban Psychics to the Uber tier.
>Implying you both don't need to cut this the fuck out this instant.

[Token]

">Implying?" Really? With the greater than sign and everything? That makes me sick. Why would you do that?

Sorry. Due to the new info and having nothing else to do other than be sick, I spent far too much time on /v/. It all just seemed to blur together after a while...

[Donomni]

So I herd you liek snowmen... (http://i44.tinypic.com/2z6bgae.jpg)

Also, better trainer pics. (http://pokebeach.com/news/0510/corocoro-pokemon-black-white-starters-2.jpg)

More believable the new trainers are older, now.

[Loyal]

What on earth is with the girl's pants?

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

What on earth is with the girl's pants?

That's what i wanted to know. It's like someone sewed Klonoa's ears to her pants.

[Token]

What on earth is with the girl's pants?

That's what i wanted to know. It's like someone sewed Klonoa's ears to her pants.

Goddamit the line is blurring again...

the general consensus is that those are pockets. Her pockets are longer than her shorts. Yep.

[POS Industries]

It's mainly the fact that you guys don't recognize Daisy Dukes when you see them that either saddens me most or gives me the most faith in humanity. I can't really decide here.

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

It's mainly the fact that you guys don't recognize Daisy Dukes when you see them that either saddens me most or gives me the most faith in humanity. I can't really decide here.

I'd go for faith in humanity. Cause you know, pokemon can do anything.

[Mike McC]

It's mainly the fact that you guys don't recognize Daisy Dukes when you see them that either saddens me most or gives me the most faith in humanity. I can't really decide here.It's saddens.

[Token]

I'd go for faith in humanity. Cause you know, pokemon can do anything.

My own experience has taught me that Pokemon makes EVERYTHING EVER worse. It definitely got rid of my faith in humanity.

[Mike McC]

My own experience has taught me that Pokemon makes EVERYTHING EVER worse. It definitely got rid of my faith in humanity.If you need further proof, just reread this thread!

But yeah, kinda looking forward to this. And I do hope that in the future there will be an onmi-region Pokemon game, a grand tour of Poke-Japan.

[Regulus Tera]

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/bikkou/1273681474466.png

Man, you guys are missing the obvious connection here. They practically made Bidoof a starter.

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/hatima/imgs/5/5/555fb8f4.jpg

[Ecks]

Goddammit Tera, where's the negarep button when I need it.

I'm so doing first playthrough with Wotter out of spite.

[Token]

Fuck Wotter. Smugleaf and Pignite are where it's at.

[Mike McC]

And RT shows us that he doesn't read the threads so good, as that first image was already linked. Way to be (b^.^)b

I'll hold judgment until I see the evolutions for the starters.

[mudah.swf]

I think the pig will be my choice. What's with Zoroark anyway? Was it confirmed to be a legendary or just an event-only pokemon or something?

[Hanuman]

List yours!

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2653/firepokemonninetalesbys.jpg

http://www.valvigirl.net/images/ditto.gif

http://www.legendarypokemon.net/images/dp_artwork/67.png

http://guidesarchive.ign.com/guides/12045/images/krabby.gif

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0ah4hN2Oe1qzli1jo1_500.png

http://pokemon.supercheats.com/artwork/148.png

http://www.heathwala.com/illustration/art_haunter.jpg

http://finickypenguin.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/slowpoke-pokemon.gif

http://th00.deviantart.net/fs45/300W/f/2009/118/6/6/Leaf_Storm_Torterra_by_themutant.jpg

[Seil]

http://www.foroswebgratis.com/imagenes_foros/1/3/7/6/1/603078Dragonite.gif (http://pokemon-fr.deviantart.com/art/Pokedex-149-Dragonite-FR-137292893?offset=40)

[Bard The 5th LW]

Ahh, I do see this is a thread meant to enjoy the partaking of Pokemon, a much worthy and valued past-time. I thus share mine!

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e5/Spr_1b_093.png The old sprite was awesome. Insanity intensified.

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/e/e8/142Aerodactyl.png/220px-142Aerodactyl.png It's a dinosaur that shoots hyper beams when he roars.

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/2/29/141Kabutops.png/180px-141Kabutops.png Reminds me of Half life. That game gave me nightmares as a little kid, but fond nightmares.

http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt287/SymphonicWolfofSins/Houndoom2.png Strikes me as rather awesome.

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/3695/189493-zoroark_large.png Not really out yet, but some images I've seen give the impression of him being terrifyingly awesome.

http://www.legendarypokemon.net/images/dp_artwork/376.png Probably one of the best things to come out of Gen III.

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

Okay

Bulbasaur and it's evolutions
Charmander
Charizard
Hitmonchan
Hitmonlee
Gyarados
Roselia
Pidgeot
Infernape

[Seil]

Mac, I think this is what I was looking for - YouTube's wonky on the school computers, so...

But if it is, I-CHARMANDER! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CugguiCVfPw)

[Ravashak]

Kerberos (http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Kerberos)

...

what? xP

[Julford Hajime]

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/277.png By far my #1, hence the gigantic FUCK YOU in the Emerald LP thread. Love you Ecks :P

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/254.png Y'know, as much as I hated 3rd gen for some of their lazy pokemon designs (Hariyama comes to mind), there were some legitimately badass pokes. Sceptile and Swellow are prime examples.

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/37.png Back when Pokemon first came out, my friends and I all argued over who's favorite was the best. Out of all the 'Mons in the show, Vulpix stood out for me. Why? Hell if I know.

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/335.png While not as awesome as Vulpix, Zangoose is still a favorite. He fared better than Groudon in the Elite Four, and they were about the same level!

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/35.png If you've played Pokemon Stadium, you know why I love Clefairy. If not, you're welcome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b-5rp5m_WI).

Those're my top five. Despite that nothing but Gens 1 and 3 being there, 2 and 4 are my favorite generations of games. Go figure.

[Viridis]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383368/Spr_3r_292.png Just... weird. Tend to keep one around.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383368/Spr_3r_382%20%281%29.png The great Leviathan!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383368/Spr_4d_395.pnghttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383368/Spr_3r_160.png Favorite starters.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383368/Spr_4d_479.pngPoltergeist! For added fun, psychotic possessed lawn mower!: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383368/Spr_4p_479L.png

[Yumil]

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/215.png - Look at that guy, cute and can cut you to pieces.
http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/286.png - I call mine shroom puncher...too bad he really doesnt have any hands>.<
http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/292.png - I'm also a fan of this guy. Some of the ubers he can completely destroy because of Wonderguard. My roommate hates when I pull him or shroom puncher out.

[Drownball-Champ]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/ryoshin2004/SquirtleSquad.jpg Because nothing beats a team of fire-fighting turtles.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/ryoshin2004/domingo_face.gif Because Domingo belongs in lists that have nothing to do with him.

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/151.png It can learn any TM/HM and it's adorable.

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/484.png It's a ghost and it will take over your favorite appliances. There is no place to hide.

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/63.png Simply awesome.

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/150.png He's Mewtwo.

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/120.pnghttp://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/121.png I just like using them.

[krogothwolf]

http://www.x-entertainment.com/updates/pics/shrek2/jynx.jpg

This thing! It's great!

[Ecks]

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/staraptor.png

This is why I do not like Swellow. Because he is the most awesome Normal/Flying EVA.

http://151chan.org/wifi/src/126734918243.gif

My favorite, but then You Should Know This Already.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/Obi-Ben/gyarados.jpg

Sea serpents rule, and Gyarados is no exception.

http://s.bebo.com/app-image/7940307383/5411656627/PROFILE/i.quizzaz.com/img/q/u/08/03/28/Zapdos_Gayoo_by_WarBandit.jpg

There's a reason I named mine Thor.

I also like Rotom and Slaking.

[Mike McC]

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x275/fencershinryuu/2010-04-26.jpg

The thread may now be closed.

[phil_]

If I hadn't received my plush Dratini all those years ago, I wouldn't be the horrible person I am today. I'd be a different horrible person. Here's to you, Dratini. You tha best. The very best.

[Mike McC]

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x275/fencershinryuu/missingno-pokemon-glitches-9291812-.jpg

Okay, NOW the thread can be closed.

[Grahf]

If I could have a team of any pokemon I want, damn their effectiveness or availability, it would be:

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e7/Spr_4p_395.png

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/2/22/Spr_4p_452.png I like scorpions.

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/87/Spr_4d_472.png Specially if they can fly.

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/02/Spr_4p_475.png

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/91/Spr_4h_219.png It's a snail that's on fire yo.

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/39/Spr_4d_478.png She covers her mouth, no need to be rude just because she froze you and stole your soul.

Although I must admit, beating my opponents to death with Magikarp melee is a highly attractive alternative.

[POS Industries]

I'm currently considering combining the pokemon game discussion threads (not including the NPF Pokemon League and LPs, though seriously guys THREE pokemon LPs? Are you fucking kidding me on this?) into one general pokemon omnibus, but that's a lot of work and I'll worry about it later.

That said, Houndoom. Haunter has the old school gen 1 nostalgia love but so many years later I've really got to hand it to the fire-breathing hellhound on this one.

[Mike McC]

I'm currently considering combining the pokemon game discussion threads (not including the NPF Pokemon League and LPs, though seriously guys THREE pokemon LPs? Are you fucking kidding me on this?) into one general pokemon omnibus, but that's a lot of work and I'll worry about it later.

That said, Houndoom. Haunter has the old school gen 1 nostalgia love but so many years later I've really got to hand it to the fire-breathing hellhound on this one.Just posting to say that a Pok?mon megathread may be for the best. Or a Pok?mon subforum in Games. Whichever.

EDIT: Also shiney you apparently need to get on that unicode thing or something.

Double EDIT: No mention of http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x275/fencershinryuu/wobbuffet.jpg? Seriously? Mike is sad.

[Julford Hajime]

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x275/fencershinryuu/2010-04-26.jpg

The thread may now be closed.

The last panel is actually my desktop right now. It is a surprisingly effective discussion starter.

"Why is your desktop pink"
"Do you see that big fukkin' sea serpent?"
"...Yeah."
"That's why."

[Mike McC]

The last panel is actually my desktop right now. It is a surprisingly effective discussion starter.

"Why is your desktop pink"
"Do you see that big fukkin' sea serpent?"
"...Yeah."
"That's why."Yeah, I nabbed the desktop she made too. Desktop bros :cool:http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x275/fencershinryuu/emot-respek.gif:cool:

[krogothwolf]

What is hat from Mike McC?

[Flarecobra]

Articuno, simply because I thought it was pretty. And kicked Lance's ass in Gen1.
Seviper. Was my speedy physical attacker in Emerald, along with Sharpedo.
Gardevior. Acted as my speedy special attacker, and was the one I tought to use Shockwave.
Steelex. Used him as some good defense, until I got...
Heatran. Took a lot to take it down sometimes. Resistant to a lot of stuff, and excellent defense all around.

That's about all I can really think of at the moment.

[Loyal]

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs45/f/2009/136/2/9/500_000_Rock_Hits_by_BehindtG.jpg

[Mike McC]

What is hat from Mike McC?What hat? I'm not wearing a hat...



Oh god.

It's starting.



'M!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[krogothwolf]

Er I meant what is that comic thing from oops.

[Mike McC]

Er I meant what is that comic thing from oops.Miss the URL at the bottom of it? Well, it is kinda small.

Manly Guys Doing Manly Things (http://www.thepunchlineismachismo.com/)

[POS Industries]

I have merged the following threads:

"FFFFFFFYESSS POKEMANZ"
"And while the forum was down, Pokemon Black and White were announced..."
"Favorite Pokemons"

This is now your one-stop shop for all your pokeymanz discussion needs. Thank you and enjoy.

[Roland]

http://www.pokebeach.com/scans/ex-team-rocket-returns/19-dark-tyranitar.jpg

One of the only shinies I've caught in Gen 4 was a Larvitar. It's now a LV100 Tyranitar. Named her Terri.

[Drownball-Champ]

What a coincidence, the only shiny I've gotten on my own this Gen is a Larvitar I hatched.

[Token]

I also have a shiny Tyranitar. I have a Torterra, Metagross, Staraptor, and Breloom as well. He's from Ruby though, so I guess it doesn't count.

[mudah.swf]

I assume this is the main Pokermen thread now so have a video of a battle from Black/White: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2QG0Ibob44

Didn't see it posted before.

[Julford Hajime]

...Hmm. The sprites are moving. During battle.

*Spit-take*

WHAT?

[Carade]

Not that moving sprites don't reduce me into a frothing frenzy of pure want. But I think I"ll wait until it's inevitably re-made for the 3DS.

[Dracorion]

Entei transformed into Zoroark?

Interesting...

[Loyal]

Seems more like low-resolution models from what I can see. In short, the Stadium line's battle style is carrying over to handheld now.

Not that this is a bad thing, mind. Now we need someone to hack in a soundbite of "IT'S A ONE-HIT WONDER!"

[mudah.swf]

Entei transformed into Zoroark?

Interesting...

It's actually Zoroark's "illusion" ability, meaning that it's the other way around. I think they were showing you the event battle that happens upon bringing a legendary dog (or all of them, I don't know for sure) from HG/SS into B/W.

[Regulus Tera]

http://i39.tinypic.com/21e0sa0.jpg

D'awwww.

[Ecks]

Seems more like low-resolution models from what I can see. In short, the Stadium line's battle style is carrying over to handheld now.

Not that this is a bad thing, mind. Now we need someone to hack in a soundbite of "IT'S A ONE-HIT WONDER!"

"TAKEN DOWN FROM THE WORD GO!"

I'm not personally too hyped for 3DS. I was never into the whole 3D movie fad, I'm not into the 3D games hype, doubt I will be when it hits fad stage.

[Tev]

So I just got back from ACen over the weekend and I'd just like to let you all know that we had a rousing game of Pokemon Snap with all the Pokemon Cosplayers this year. Most importantly though, I caught me something new!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/Loneglade/ACen%202010/DSCN0304.jpg?t=1274143188
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/Loneglade/ACen%202010/DSCN0305.jpg?t=1274143214

[Loyal]

Jesus that didn't take long.

[POS Industries]

Jesus that didn't take long.
I don't think Jesus had anything to do with it.

[Loyal]

The thing that bugs me the most about that pokemon is that it has a ponytail for no good reason. They're becoming more and more human with every generation.

[Tev]

I had a chat with the guy about how he had a costume ready for a game that wasn't even out yet and was just announced like a month ago. He said he started costume creation when the first shaded outline was released.

EDIT: On the other hand....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/Loneglade/ACen%202010/IMG_1515.jpg?t=1274154395

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/Loneglade/ACen%202010/IMGP0519.jpg?t=1274154509

[Fenris]

People spent money on those.

[Tev]

I'm just saying, it was the best game of Pokemon Snap I've ever gotten to play.

[POS Industries]

People spent money on those.
The caterpie actually looked fairly low-budget. And I'm not going to fault a lady for wearing that flareon costume, honestly.

But the first dude is just right out.

[Tev]

But the first dude is just right out.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/Loneglade/ACen%202010/IMGP0642.jpg?t=1274156164

[POS Industries]

That's more of an honor than sudowoodo will ever deserve.

[Tev]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/Loneglade/ACen%202010/IMGP0648.jpg?t=1274156472

[Mike McC]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/Loneglade/ACen%202010/IMGP0519.jpg?t=1274154509What are you, a furry or summthin'?

But yeah. Pokemon Cosplaying. Too close to fursuiters for comfort.

[Tev]

What are you, a furry or summthin'?I have a thing for corsets, glasses, and red hair. I also play pokemon. All in all there really was no downside here.

[Roland]

Oh man, oh man, oh man...

Back when it was just me and Pokemon Gold, I was going through Mt. Mortar when I ran into my first shiny pokemon ever: A Zubat. I caught it, and he was a part of my team and my favorite out of all of them even after it evolved into a funny looking pink Crobat. But then Gen III rolled around and there was no importing from the previous games and I grew out of Pokemon (until I became an adult and it became fun again, no idea how that works but hey Gen IV!)...

So now today, I was EV Training my Dratini in Mt. Mortar in my brand new shiny Soul Silver, when what do I run into?

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk269/BattaTheBeast/NonBrawl%20Stuff/ShinyZubat.png

I actually cried a little.

[Ecks]

http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx215/eckscizor/Random/ShinyNoctowl2-17-10PRERedGyarados.jpg

BEFORE I bumped into Lake of Rage Shiny Gyarados. I was all HOLY SHIT ITS A SHINY.

Last time I bumped into a shiny, I think it was in my LeafGreen ROM, and it was a shiny Mankey that I accidentally KO'd while trying to whittle down its health. Feels bad, man.

[Viridis]

I think I had a shiny http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383368/Spr_4d_070_s.png and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383368/Spr_4d_075_s.png in Diamond.

I evolved both to http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383368/Spr_4d_071_s.png and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383368/Spr_4d_076_s.png.

I actually liked shiny Victreebel. Has a sort of withered look it.

[greed]

My only current one is Aggron, I caught it as a Aron on my first run through that cave during my playthrough of Sapphire and it's been in my team since. Ported it to my copy of Diamond after beating the Elite 4 in that too. It looks awesome.
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/gr33d_2007/Spr_4d_306_s.png

Back in my orginal gold I had a shiny zubat and stantler too. Also I saw a shiny graveler once(in diamond or sapphire I think) but it used explosion on it's first turn.....

[Kim]

So, a Magikarp has an attack of 9 at level 20. When it evolves into Gyarados, it has an attack of 55.

Fucking Magikarp.

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

Ya know, despite Gyarados 4x damage vs Lightning, i always have one on my team.

[Loyal]

Well, yes. Gyarados' 4x Lightning weakness is literally the only downside to using it, so... yeah. Like with nearly all the Dragon types; 4x Ice weakness, but you aren't going to let that stop you.

[Jagos]

I have a thing for corsets, glasses, and red hair. I also play pokemon. All in all there really was no downside here.

Seriously, it's a trap dude...

Come back to the light.

[POS Industries]

Ya know, despite Gyarados 4x damage vs Lightning, i always have one on my team.
I typically do as well, but this time I decided to break tradition, so until recently I was using Feraligatr as my primary water type. However, I've recently retired it in favor of the superior damage soaking power of Milotic.

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

I typically do as well, but this time I decided to break tradition, so until recently I was using Feraligatr as my primary water type. However, I've recently retired it in favor of the superior damage soaking power of Milotic.

Well my typical team up is

Gyarados
My Starter (D/P Infernape)
The Type Opposite of my Starter (D/P Roserade)
Psychic (D/P Alakazam)
Flying (D/P Staraptor)
Random. Sometimes it's a ground type, sometimes its a Pseudo Legendary*, hell sometimes I'll throw out a legendary.

*gonna get DS online, anyone have a PLegendary worth trading for?"

[Great Cartoonist]

Gyarados may be a fan favorite and all, but I've always thought that Swampert was a more interesting breed of Water Pokemon, as it has only one weakness (4x Grass) and can use Curse with little downside due to being already moderately slow. Also,
STEALTH ROCK ON EVERYTHING

Lanturn is still one of my favorites though.

[Ecks]

I hate Stealth Rock with a passion, despite having it on a couple of Pokemon just to have the option open.

That said, I have like four Rapid Spinners... most of which are the water type. Why is it that water types learn Rapid Spin so much? I can rarely find it on anything that's not Water.

Seriously: Staryu/Starmie, Squirtle/Wartortle/Blastoise, Omanyte/Omastar (Egg Move), Kabuto/Kabutops (Also Egg Move), Tentacool/Tentacruel (Egg Move Again), etcetera, etcetera.

LOTS of Water type Rapid Spinners. I mean, it IS pretty obvious in at least Staryu's line and Squirtle's line as to why THEY have it... and the whole Egg Move thing makes sense in context as well (Tentacool/cruel spinning their tentacles, Omanyte/star retreating into shell, spinning it around, though Kabuto/ps is a bit of a stretch...)

[Kim]

Just caught a Red Gyarados and named him Mr Fish. For obvious reasons.

[POS Industries]

I seriously gotta get more people to battle. Grinding Mt. Silver for all eternity has lost all appeal.

[Roland]

Lost to Lance after just barely beating the Elite Four.

Given how easy this game was overall so far, I was a bit surprised when Lance swept my entire team with a LV49 Dragonite. Using only... four moves, actually. I thought it was five, but Walken (my Crobat) was taken out by Gyarados beforehand.

EDIT: Just managed to beat him. It was a ridiculously tense match, too. The Gyarados, Aerodactyl, and even the first two Dragonites went down much easier than just Gyarados alone from the last attempt. Then the final Dragonite came out and swept most of my team. I used Revives to stop myself from losing outright, and found that it was slow enough that my Feraligatr could hit it with Ice Fang at least once before going down, leaving me with only my Dragonair w/Dragon Rush.

After like ten minutes of debating whether or not to try to finish it off with her, I just Max Revive'd Feraligatr instead and proceeded to take out it and Charizard in three moves. Now I just need to beat the Kanto section and I can go back to thinking up fun doubles teams.

[Ecks]

I just broke myself out of my comfort zone and used a team consisting of:

Ninetales
Machamp
Ninjask
Feraligatr
Dugtrio
Wash Rotom

to great effect in some Gym Leader rematches. ESPECIALLY against Blue. My Feraligatr is a BEAST. Swept his Rhyperior AND Tyranitar (with some prediction on the Rhyperior) DESPITE A FIFTEEN LEVEL DIFFERENCE. Finally fell to his Pidgeot, but to be fair... that fucker has Return. Managed to take him out in three turns between the Dugtrio and Ninetales. Everyone else was completely RUINED by Wash Rotom. Seriously, he's wicked broken.

[Azisien]

I just finished most of my level 50 team for upcoming local tourney. Looks like I am a Water Gym Leader at heart:

Milotic
Pikachu
Exeggutor
Weezing (he's awful, probably going to release him)
Vaporeon
Umbreon
Flareon
Jolteon
Cloyster
Kingdra
Starmie
Hypno
Magnezone

and my heavyweight champion....Beedrill.

I'll be using that pool for singles and doubles. Gonna be great times.

[Ecks]

and my heavyweight champion....Beedrill.

YOURS IS THE DRILL THAT WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS!

I seriously need to get to work on the massive list of Pokemon I have yet to breed and raise. I've got at least fifteen that I haven't started, three that I just need to EV train (on that note, anyone have an easier way to EV train a Larvitar? Because there is no way I'm going to attempt Special Defense EV's by killing Tentacool with a Rock/Ground type).

[Roland]

Slap a Power Band on the Larvitar, and switch it out at the start of battle for something that can take out the Tentacool in one shot.

[POS Industries]

Alternately, put a Power Band on it and grind pokemon that give you the other EV you need, killing two flying types with one rock type.

........Oh my god I just realized that's why flying types are weak against rock.

[Ecks]

Slap a Power Band on the Larvitar, and switch it out at the start of battle for something that can take out the Tentacool in one shot.

As far as this one is concerned, the EV's are split directly in half, correct? Might take longer, but not as long as attempting to grind it all up while constantly reviving the Larvitar.

As for your suggestion, POS... that could work also, but I'd have to do the math for the other EVs separately on paper (I EV train on Diamond, Counter app is INVALUABLE.)

[Roland]

It's only experience points that get divvied up after battle. Everyone who gets EXP also gets the full amount of effort points.

But yeah POS's idea is better.

[Ecks]

You absolutely sure? I really hate fucking up my EV's because it usually means I have to reset and DO ALL THAT OVER AGAIN! ARGH!

[Julford Hajime]

He's telling the truth, at least for Gen 4 (I know nothing about EV training in Gen 3). EVs are never divided, as it would otherwise cause issues with seperating a single EV (Like, say, Goldeen's 1 Attack EV) between six pokemon. Instead, everyone who gets experience gets the base EV amount (Plus anything from items like Macho Brace, Power Anklet, etc.).

[Great Cartoonist]

A Pokemon with an EXP share should get the same amount of base EV points as if it had already participated in battle. It's not as efficient as using a Macho Brace or any of those Power weights, but there's less work involved.

Also, I do believe that Gen 4 uses the same EV system as in Gen 3.

A minor tip: Keep your EVs exactly divisible by 4 so that you can allocate any remaining points to other stats. 252 EV is effectively the same as 255 EV.

And farm lots of EV-reducing berries in case you mess up somewhere.

[Ecks]

A Pokemon with an EXP share should get the same amount of base EV points as if it had already participated in battle. It's not as efficient as using a Macho Brace or any of those Power weights, but there's less work involved.

Also, I do believe that Gen 4 uses the same EV system as in Gen 3.

A minor tip: Keep your EVs exactly divisible by 4 so that you can allocate any remaining points to other stats. 252 EV is effectively the same as 255 EV.

And farm lots of EV-reducing berries in case you mess up somewhere.

I knew the bit about divisible by four. At max you can only get 63 extra points in a stat, as 255 is the max you can put in one stat, and four points is equal to 1 stat point, etc. etc. Most of the EV spreads I use I pull from Smogon. I may alter the movesets, but I generally use what works, and Smogon, despite the pseudo-tourneytarding they do over there, works.

I'm working on the EV dump berries as we speak, but they take about a day to mature... good thing they drop five berries per plant or it would take forever.

So if I did the Power Item/Swap for stronger mon strategy... Larvitar would still get the ten points from the kill?

[Regulus Tera]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/iamnotevilness/lgndry.jpg

http://pokebeach.com/news/0510/pokemon-black-white-boxart-reshiram-zekron.jpg

Interesting that Black gets the White Pokeyman and viceversa.

[Tev]

Dammit, I was going to buy Black but it seems White has the cooler looking pokemon.

[Ecks]

Dammit. I want both... but I'll feel ripped off when Grey comes out.

[Yrcrazypa]

I'm getting old. I think both of them look retarded. Same with Zoroark and the starters.

[Ecks]

Take off those Nostalgia Goggles, buddy. They totally look super badass. Almost like they were ripped straight out of Monster Hunter TRI-

Oh.

[Tev]

Oh don't get me wrong, none of what I've seen so far holds a candle to Red/Blue or the first gen pokemon. It's just that between the two, has that dumb "feathered dragon" look. Plus I can't tell if both have some crazy jet engine shove up their poke-holes.

[Yrcrazypa]

It's not the nostalgia goggles, it's that I think they look stupid. I can't tell what the heck they are supposed to be. Edit: For the record, I thought Giratina looked badass, but these? Bleck.

[Ecks]

Judging from their visible anatomy... I'd say dragons. Black one's probably Dragon/Dark. Anyone's guess as to what the white one is.

[Tev]

Anyone's guess as to what the white one is.
New element Dragon/Light.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I'd guess steel, but that was the type last gen for the legendaries, so yeah, light may be a possibility. I like it either way, both look fairly cool.

[Ecks]

Well, given how much time is left until september, there is still enough time for a reveal on whether or not there's another type added. I'm pretty sure SOMETHING should have leaked by now on this, but then we haven't had any new types since GSC almost ten years ago.

[Token]

They're both officially at least part Dragon. More importantly, Black and White will allegedly have ACTUAL differences.

[Loyal]

The black one makes me think of Mewtwo in a suit of powered armor. That inhibitor suit Giovanni hooked him up with doesn't count

[PhoenixFlame]

Take off those Nostalgia Goggles, buddy. They totally look super badass. Almost like they were ripped straight out of Monster Hunter TRI-

Oh.

Agh, now I'm envisioning what they'd look like with their wings broken, tail cut off, and what carves I'd get.

... And how the armor'd look. Thanks a lot.

[Ecks]

Not that this matters to many, but Latias has been banned to the Uber tier. Smogon front page, though I can't confirm WHY.

Salamence seems likely to follow, as Smogonites are currently playtesting the metagame without him to see if it's more balanced. Discussion is currently ocurring in this thread (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72048).

I gotta say, I am a little disappointed. Latias was one of the few legendaries that was OU worthy that I could still use, though I didn't use it often. Though now that it's banned, a couple of the things it countered (like Breloom, for example) are now TOTALLY viable in OU. A few other things are also enjoying some much needed usage now that Salamence has been removed from the suspect ladder, though I'll be irritated if it DOES get the banhammer, as a few friends of mine play Smogon rules, and unless I asked for Ubers, Golondrina would not get any usage whatsoever.

EDIT: apparently without Latias or Salamence, everyone's putting together stall teams. While I do enjoy stall teams, especially Hail stall, I can't say I'd enjoy having to constantly break through everyone in every match.

[Julford Hajime]

Man, I still play Shoddy every now and then (An hour or two once or twice a week), and I gotta admit Latias didn't seem THAT bad (I hate Jirachi FAR more because parahax feels like you lost because your opponent got lucky, not because he outsmarted you). CM Latias is certainly tough to break without a good Dark type (Something OU really lacks outside Tyranitar, and which Latias is ready for most times), but UGH MORE HAIL STALL. Hail stall has been getting more common BEFORE this ban, I don't even want to look at Smogon right now T.T

[Ecks]

Oh no, it's not hail stall that's seeing a comeback. It's regular stall and sandstall.

[Mike McC]

Every time I see 'tier' referring to characters in a video game I die a little more on the inside.

[Roland]

Whenever there are things that are not identical, there will be people who ponder just what the differences between those things mean in terms of usefulness. These people will invariably figure out just which of these things is better than the other things, and will rank them accordingly.

I don't see much point in complaining about it.

[Mike McC]

You oversimplify it.

The truth of why it's done only makes for infinite sadness, a never ending horror of futility and desperation.

[Premmy]

He's saying they need to marinate the nether rod in the squish mitten.

[Donomni]

Whenever there are things that are not identical, there will be people who ponder just what the differences between those things mean in terms of usefulness. These people will invariably figure out just which of these things is better than the other things, and will rank them accordingly.

I don't see much point in complaining about it.

When characters you like for whatever reasons are banned by the interwebs as a whole, it kinda becomes a sore spot.

I understand the competitive mindset, but being told you can't use your favorite characters is still annoying.

[POS Industries]

He's saying they need to marinate the nether rod in the squish mitten.
Splash attack the Cubone into the Cloyster, IMO.

[Ecks]

Donomni hit the nail right on the head. I was disappointed myself by the fact that Latias was banned to Ubers. Hell, I'm disappointed some of my favorites aren't OU, but I can at least still use them in OU. Likewise, all of the Borderline stuff I use (i.e. Crobat) is banned from UU. Which I prefer to OU, were it not for the fact that I use Scizor in almost every team I run.

[Mike McC]

It's sad not because people are teling you how to play, it's sad because to get to this point, the point of tiers and shit, you honestly have to become obsessed with the game to the point where you're no longer actually having fun. It has become serious business. Pokemon. Fighting little cute critters in rockem' sockem' combat. They are so obsessed with it they have to calculate, weigh, categorize, tabulate, and effectively suck all the fucking fun out of the experience.

And that is sad and pathetic like... something i cannot even fathom.Donomni hit the nail right on the head. I was disappointed myself by the fact that Latias was banned to Ubers. Hell, I'm disappointed some of my favorites aren't OU, but I can at least still use them in OU. Likewise, all of the Borderline stuff I use (i.e. Crobat) is banned from UU. Which I prefer to OU, were it not for the fact that I use Scizor in almost every team I run.I have no idea what the fuck any of that means, but I assume it is terrible and thus it should never ever be spoken again.

Just... not give a fuck. Play the game in a way that is carefree and fun. If anyone complains or anything about what you use along the lines of "that's an uber, bluh bluh banned bluh bluh", punch them in the fucking balls and find a new friend.

[Azisien]

Wow, someone had a bad experience in their friend's basement!

[Mike McC]

Wow, someone had a bad experience in their friend's basement!nah, we exploited the glitches of Blue/Red and fought using level 255 Missingno.s and Raichus.

[Julford Hajime]

No, Mike, you're missing the point. Like, REALLY fucking hard. The reason I'm interested in tiers in pokemon? The reason I participate in stuff like Smogon? Because I thoroughly fucking enjoy the games. Do you seriously think I'd put so many hours into something I hate?

You've got some idea in your head that because I can look at a list of tiers and, god forbid, play with other people who have seen those tiers and agree to follow them with me, that I'm not enjoying the game anymore. Or fuck, even worse, you seem to think that because I enjoy the tiers in the game that somehow I'm out to fucking ruin the game for you. Because if you can't enjoy a game MY way, clearly you're doing it wrong. Actually, that last sentence seems to be the idea you're sharing; if I don't play how Mike motherfucking McC plays Pokemon, maybe I'm not a REAL fan of Pokemon.

[Mike McC]

This reminds me of another Nintendo game...

No hold items, caterpie only, final destination.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-7gmds2njg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OccEKFdDq8

And yes! I can say that! Because the true purpose of Pokemon is... love, and how through the power of love you an become unto a god of destruction and lay waste to all those who stand before you.

Love. Love will set you free.

<3

[Premmy]

Compettitive versus casual bulllshit again... yaaaaaaaaay

you're all dorks, you know? never forget that.

NOW you're wasting time arguing about petty annoying, tedious shit instead of just playing the game.

NOW you're getting all pissed about someone else's opinion about how you play the game.

[Mike McC]

Compettitive versus casual bulllshit again... yaaaaaaaaay

you're all dorks, you know? never forget that.

NOW you're wasting time arguing about petty annoying, tedious shit instead of just playing the game.

NOW you're getting all pissed about someone else's opinion about how you play the game.See, Prems gets it.

Love.

<3

[Premmy]

I get that both sides of this "argument" need to suck a titty?

[Mike McC]

I get that both sides of this "argument" need to suck a titty?If that isn't love, I don't know what love is!

[Roland]

Wow I was all set to come in again and start arguing the competitive side. Nice to see it's been done for me. Laziness: 1, Hard Work: Infinity!

Yeah, just 'cause I recognize that tiers exist, and that it's only fair to enforce them when it comes to competitions, doesn't mean I don't also enjoy the game. The only time I didn't enjoy a game despite immersing myself in the competitive scene was Brawl, and that's because Brawl is terrible.

Also, ranting about people trying to enforce bans during friendly play is ridiculous, sir. While it's certainly frowned upon to waltz into a non-competitive battle with a team of six ubers, nobody in their right mind is going to say you're breaking any rules, because you aren't. Rules outside of what the game itself enforces should only ever apply during actual competitions.

Anywhooo, I'm raising Dragonites now on the off chance that they'll be useful in taking out Red. Just the one I'd been using since Goldenrod City when it was a Dratini has turned out useful due to Dragon Dance and Dragon Rush/Aqua Tail. Well, until everyone and their mother started whipping out Ice Punches and Blizzards. Mmm, Blizzards...

[Ecks]

I'd like to go on the record as saying Mike's the one who fucking started the argument.

Now that that's out of the way... I can totally play without using tiers or clauses. But it is the HEIGHT of douchebaggery to go into a six-on-six using nothing but legendaries all holding Brightpowder or some such nonsense. Hence why people normally throw in a couple of rules before playing. Y'know, the same way you tell your bestest buddy in the whole wide world right before you start a game of Monopoly that s/he's not allowed to use bank money if they're gonna play and be banker.

Red uses lots of Blizzards

Yeah, given that it's 100% accurate in Hail, and Mt. Silver's peak is under a hailstorm... yeah, makes sense he'd abuse the hell out of it. Lance'll do the same with Thunder if you let his Gyarados get a Rain Dance off.

[Mike McC]

I'd like to go on the record as saying Mike's the one who fucking started the argument.Technically, it was others who started it. Had everyone simply left my statement alone, accepted it as merely a difference of opinion for some loud-mouthed goon, then everything woulda been peachy. But I am compulsed to defend my statements if they are called out as such.

I still was not the nerd-ragey one here. But whatever.

People still take the pokeymans too seriously.

[POS Industries]

Technically, it was others who started it. Had everyone simply left my statement alone, accepted it as merely a difference of opinion for some loud-mouthed goon, then everything woulda been peachy. But I am compulsed to defend my statements if they are called out as such.

I still was not the nerd-ragey one here. But whatever.

People still take the pokeymans too seriously.
This "it's everyone else's fault for feeding my trolling" is horseshit and you need to stop it immediately.

[Ecks]

POS' mod color? Is it party time already?

I'm back to work on cooking up new competitive 'mons. I'm currently working on a Careful Thick Fat Snorlax... that's taken me two weeks to stop being lazy and get back to work. Hasn't been any more news on the Gen V front, and HG has been getting a tad boring lately.

On the good news front, my kinda-sorta brother-in-law picked up SS and Platinum with his DSLite last week, so I've been busy breedan and tradan some good stuffs for him.

[Flarecobra]

Ok, something that's been bothering me since Gen 1.

How the HELL does Drowzee/Hypno use Poison Gas?

My theory: They fart in your general direction.

And also: The Voltorb and Magnimite thing. How did they come about? Were they built or something?

[Thadius]

*Comes in and tosses a gauntlet on the floor*

Gentlemen. My team is prepared. I ask only that you TRY not to use legendary pokemon as a crutch, for I shall not use them against you.

3395 5827 8973.

Come get some.

[Bob The Mercenary]

Just picked up SoulSilver last week. The last time I played any Pokemon was the original Silver and I must say, it still has not gotten old. Just wanted a quick opinion though. How sound would my team be if I planned on going for an all status-effect line up. I'm thinking Meganium, Polywrath, Onyx, Flareon (or any fire type) and two other normal/ground types. That way I would have the opportunity to poison/burn/bind/confuse any of the opponent's Pokemon that give me a hard time and just sit back, heal with either synchronize or roost, increase my defense and let the effects do the work for me while throwing in a few tackles here and there.

I'm going to now try going back through this entire thread to see what I've missed over the past year. :(

My friend code is 2579 6960 5674. Right now I've only reached the second gym, but by the end of the month I should be ready to roll with you vets. I'll be entering as many of your codes as I can today.

[Edit] Also, if anyone could catch me a low level Cubone and smuggle it to my DS, I would love you forever as it has always been my favorite 'mon.

[POS Industries]

*Comes in and tosses a gauntlet on the floor*

Gentlemen. My team is prepared. I ask only that you TRY not to use legendary pokemon as a crutch, for I shall not use them against you.

3395 5827 8973.

Come get some.
*Grins at the sight of the gauntlet upon the floor, a mischievous spark in his eye*

3910 9930 0613

This should be fun!

[Token]

So, no one's talking about the seven new Pokemon that were announced on Friday? Man you guys are lame. Incidentally, a source that leaked all that info about a week ago (and has given accurate information in the past) also said there would be triple battles this gen. This might make Plusle/Minun and Gear actually useful. Huh.

[POS Industries]

triple battles
I won't be happy until I can just throw my entire team out onto the field at once.

And no, Beat Up doesn't count.

[Token]

I won't be happy until I can just throw my entire team out onto the field at once.

Just your team? Weak. I won't be happy until I can maul someone with 18 full boxes of Rattata.

[POS Industries]

Just your team? Weak. I won't be happy until I can maul someone with 18 full boxes of Rattata.
Naturally, you'll need them to be better than 1782 other boxes of Rattata.

[Token]

Naturally, you'll need them to be better than 1782 other boxes of Rattata.

I'll have you know that my Rattata are in the top percentage of all Rattata. Good day to you, sir.

[Roland]

Now if only battling was completely real time on top of that... Rattata Rush! Muhuhahahahaha!

[Thadius]

Triple battles don't surprise me. There is a spot where you can find three water-based ace trainers in HG/SS that all face you. It kinda hinted to me 'Hey, this could be a- wait, they don't have those. Maybe they were experimenting with it here? I dunno.'

Also, POS. We shall duel at high noon, mountain time.

[Julford Hajime]

Oh man, I just had SUPAH ULTRA BUSY WEEKEND and didn't check on this thread at all, or else I'd have signed up for some sweet sweet pokemon fights. Sadly I'm now in a locale that prevents me from getting my Pokefighting fix.

SHUT UP I'M NOT ADDICTED I CAN QUIT WHENEVER I WANT.

Anywho. Anybody up for fighting this weekend? I'll be able to start somewhere around 8PM EST Friday, and should be good for fighting until, like, September >.>

[Donomni]

Duuuuurp (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/More_Black_and_White_information_surfacing).

So yeah, MRS FRIZZLE IS THE NEW PROF.

ALL ABOARD THE MAGIC POKEBUS

[greed]

I like all of them pretty much. LOVE the monkey though, seriously that might be a better fire monkey(....why are there two fire monkeys though? Some Japanese language or myth joke?) than Infernape.

Anyone else hear the thing that apparently Munna(the flower tapir) was hinted at/or inspired by a line in the original Red and Blue where a picknicker says she wishes there was small pink, cute pokemon with a floral pattern? Unused Gen1 design brought out of the waiting room?

[POS Industries]

Also, POS. We shall duel at high noon, mountain time.
And so the OK Corral is mine! ...but for how long?

Seriously, fun battle, Thad. We'll have to do this again soon.

[Thadius]

Give me four hours and we'll see who's eating those words.

Well okay maybe a bit longer than four hours, maybe less. But I will have my vengeance!

You're just lucky my one guy that was in training wasn't on the field. He's nearly done with my horrible training regime, and once he is, I'll be ready for you again.

[POS Industries]

Hahaha, I look forward to it!

And you have six hours to prepare, since I have to go to work soon.

[BloodyMage]

Duuuuurp (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/More_Black_and_White_information_surfacing).

So yeah, MRS FRIZZLE IS THE NEW PROF.

ALL ABOARD THE MAGIC POKEBUS

It seems very likely that Munna will be a pre-evolution to Drowzee and Hypno, no? I mean looking at the over all shape and that its species is the dream eater pokemon, I wouldn't be surprised if perhaps it was a pre-evolution for those pokemon.

[Ecks]

I can't wait for Crocodile Bandit. Ground/Dark, there's a new one.

Also, Zekrom's leak a month ago turned out to be true... and holy shit, we have two more unique-typing legendaries. I'll have to get back into DPt and use move checker to see what the resists and weaknesses are.

I can't tell which I would prefer... though both are weak to 'quake... and one has an SR weakness...

Smogon news page is source, plus you can just clicky the Black & White link on the sidebar.

[POS Industries]

Just a word of advice: Don't stay in the wifi lobby while taking a nap. Apparently voice chat doesn't need the other person's approval to connect and I just got an earful of Thad snoring.

[Thadius]

Yeah I kinda fell ASLEEP WAITING ON YOU.

No biggie though.

[Bob The Mercenary]

Is there any way I can melt this game down and mainline it? The addiction has returned! And I just gave a friend Diamond. I should be ready for battles soon. If anyone has any Pokemans in the vicinity of level 20 I'd be able to maybe compete with that.

[Ecks]

If by 20 you meant 82 then yes, I'd be up for some action.

Also! Smogon news page sez they're gonna (at some point) give away a free Cherish Ball Scizor.

Awesome, I said to myself.

Then I saw the moveset, and ability and nature.

Fuck you Nintendo. Why must you give away useless movie-tie ins with useless moves and abilities WHEN YOU STILL HAVEN'T BROUGHT CELEBI OR THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY MEW STATESIDE? Or for that matter given access to the Azure Flute for Platinum (nevermind Diamond or Pearl)?

Japan Is The Center Of The Universe indeed.

[POS Industries]

Is there any way I can melt this game down and mainline it? The addiction has returned! And I just gave a friend Diamond. I should be ready for battles soon. If anyone has any Pokemans in the vicinity of level 20 I'd be able to maybe compete with that.
You can actually autobalance levels to 50 or 100 in PvP battles now.

Naturally, this has resulted in me not caring enough to level my team past the mid-to-low 60s but on the whole it's a very nice feature.

[Julford Hajime]

So I just finished moving earlier today and am COMPLETELY exhausted (PRE-POST EDIT: I fell asleep twice typing this), but I am now in a location with constant Wifi, and am available pretty much any time for them Pokeymans. Anyone interested in a fight, shoot me a message either her or via PM or something.

Friend code (Because I'm REALLY bad about updating my sig with it >.>) is:
4082 8376 4380

[Tev]

Okay, quick pokemon question:

So I'm rather new to this whole "pokemon get'n it on" thing as I've only just recently decided to begin joining the rest of you in the 21st century of pokemon gaming. I have acquired a copy of Fire Red to help aclimate me to the new fangled ways you kids play pokemon these days and, having trounced the Elite Four and begun the bonus content of the Sevii Islands, I have come across the Daycare Center/Pokemon Sex Pit. Now, I've looked up some breeding info on Bulbapedia and think for my first try I'm going to see if I can't churn out a Pikachu with Volt Tackle.

My question is not with the breeding because that seems very straight forward. I'd just like some opinions on evolving the little shock-runt. As a product of early exposure to Ash, his Pikachu, and the power of non-evolved-love-hippy-crap, I've always found it near impossible to evolve the Pikachu that eats up the electric-type slot on my roster. Granted in the first Gen games this was hardly an issue but I guess they fixed the buggy combat system since then so now I need to know: when's the best time/level to apply the Thunder Stone? Is there a reason to let your electric rat stay cute and small forever?

[Shyria Dracnoir]

I'll admit, all I know about that is if you have a Pikachu (and only Pikachu I think) hold a Light Ball and breed it, the offspring will know Volt Tackle.

[greed]

I'd just like some opinions on evolving the little shock-runt. As a product of early exposure to Ash, his Pikachu, and the power of non-evolved-love-hippy-crap, I've always found it near impossible to evolve the Pikachu that eats up the electric-type slot on my roster. Granted in the first Gen games this was hardly an issue but I guess they fixed the buggy combat system since then so now I need to know: when's the best time/level to apply the Thunder Stone? Is there a reason to let your electric rat stay cute and small forever?

There actually is, some wild Pikachu carry an item called a Light Ball(or something like that), which doubles Pikachu's special attack stat(and maybe it's special defence? I forget). But anyway this bonus doesn't work on Raichu's or anything else. So basically while holding one of these guys, Pikachu becomes a better attacker than Raichu.

However good luck getting one, they have like a 5% appearance rate on pikachu's, which also have a 5% appearance rate.......

Edit: It doubles both it's attack stats. Basically making the little rodent really good at quickly tearing shit up, then dying as soon as something faster or able to survive it's first attack comes along.

[Tev]

Well I'm going to have to get a Light Ball to make a baby Pichu learn Volt Tackle anyway. What I want to know is, if that baby grows up into a Pikachu and I let it keep the Light Ball, is it technically better than a Raichu or do I need to evolve it at some point?

EDIT: Also Pikachu are like a 25% mob in the Power Plant so I'm not too worried about finding a breed sample there.

[Thadius]

Downloadable Jirachi come this weekend.

That is all.

[Tev]

Also,
FireRed LeafGreen Oran Berry (50%) Light Ball (5%)
I highly doubt the accuracy of those numbers as I'm on my third box full of Pikachu and have yet to see even a single Oran Berry, let alone a Light Ball.

[Tev]

Doublepost because it seems I really do have a breeding question now:

Gave up on the Pikachu breeding program after catching about 120 Pikachu without a single Light Ball. Decided to work on some evolutions and it turns out that Swinub's evolution to Mamoswine only happens when it knows Ancient Power. According to Bulbapedia Swinub only get Ancient Power as a result of breeding with a host of pokemon including:

Diglett, Dugtrio, Wooper, Quagsire, Dunsparce, Phanpy, Donphan, Mawile, Numel, Camerupt, and Kecleon.

After looking through my Pokeboxes it seems I only had a male Dugtrio to get it on with my breeder so I tossed them into the Day Care and let them do their thing. I got an egg and walked around until it hatched and now I've got a little furry pig with Dig and not Ancient Power like it was supposed to. What exactly am I doing wrong here? Dig isn't even on Swinub's breed list.

I took out the Dugtrio and tossed in a Wooper to hope for a better result maybe. It was the only other male on the list that I had on hand.

[Thadius]

Even easier: Take Swinub to the move tutor and have him make it remember AncientPower, then level it up.

Also, I think I have a light ball I might not be using. Or I could get one. 's not that hard for me.

[BloodyMage]

Are you still playing FireRed? Because I'd give up now since Mamoswine doesn't exist in the generation three games of which FireRed is apart of.

If you're playing the generation four games however, then I found it a lot easier to simply evolve Swinub into Piloswine, then go find some heart scales and the guy that can teach a pokemon any move that they learn by level up. Since Piloswine learns ancient power at level 1, you can teach it that way. This is the easiest way that I've found to get a Mamoswine.

[Bob The Mercenary]

Would anyone be interested later tonight in trading my Kadabra to make it evolve to Allakazam?

[Tev]

Are you still playing FireRed? Because I'd give up now since Mamoswine doesn't exist in the generation three games of which FireRed is apart of.
Okay then, what I'm doing wrong is playing the wrong generation. :eek:

Thanks. Moving on to the next project. :dance:

[Token]

Okay then, what I'm doing wrong is playing the wrong generation. :eek:

Thanks. Moving on to the next project. :dance:

And the wrong game if you want Volt Tackle. It's only in Emerald and later games, unfortunately.

[Savage Thinking]

So, months and months ago, I decided to play Pokemon Emerald and try out a solo run. Which is when you play through the game using only one pokemon battle with, capturing others as HM slaves. Usually, these are done with really weak (which tend to be unevolved) pokemon, for the sake of the challenge. I did a couple before this, but decided to go all out this time. I chose to play with the statistically weakest pokemon in the game, Sunkern*. I found out that Emerald is really against grass-types, and it didn't help I was using the weakest one in the game.

* I ended up using AR cheats to capture one in the wild, as breeding one and trading it over with Grasswhistle (a sleeping move) felt cheap.

I ended up taking this run slow, as it got rather difficult. Run of the mill trainers, and even wild pokemon would be a serious threat to my Sunkern (repels were life savers). There were parts throughout the run I had to sit down and plan out how I was going to beat certain trainers, as one-shotting Sunkern was effortless to them. After doing this on and off for months, I finally beat the 8 gym leaders, and with nothing but a level 81 Sunkern, and a crap ton of items...

http://i45.tinypic.com/2vrzh1i.png

It didn't help that I couldn't defeat the champion with the tools I had, so I had to purposefully white out, go get what I needed, and go through the Elite 4 a second time. Fun, fun.

I wasn't done there, however. Once you beat the Elite 4 and champion, the champion from Ruby/Sapphire spawns in a cave, which you can go fight him. His levels are the highest in the game (outside Battle Frontier), and I figured the only way I could beat him is to raise my Sunkern up to level 100. So I ended up researching where to find Rare Candies, and fought pokemon to finally get to 100 so I could fight him. After tons, and tons, and tons of resets due to a slight mistake, miscalculation, and lucky crits...

http://i50.tinypic.com/2q03l2q.png

I was so glad I was done. So what I ended up doing was something a person with an actual brain would've done long ago: evolve him.

http://i45.tinypic.com/j0batz.png

[Thadius]

I'm sorry but your escapades have just caused a meltdown of my brain. If I start spewing madness, it's because that's all I have left.

Throw him into Diamond/Pearl/Platinum. See if he still wins.

After that, toss him at HeartGold/SoulSilver. Again, test him against that which is there.

You are at stage 1 of 3 of achieving Ultimate Win. Your current status is 'DAMN!' The next one is 'Aw Hell Naw!' The final win will earn you the status 'Fuck This, Where's Reality?'

[Donomni]

I'm pretty certain the final one would cause Hell to freeze over and awaken the Elder Gods from beyond the infinite.

You know, like beating IWBTG on Impossible.

[Savage Thinking]

Well, I could take him over to HeartGold, and see how he fares against the powered up Elite 4, then fight Red. For Platinum, it'd take awhile to set that up as I'd have to start a new file all over again. Or I could do a totally new run with a new Sunkern* in Platinum...

* And not let him learn Grasswhistle as he learns t naturally in 4th gen, and screw that, yo.

Also, I forgot mention, but most people try to make it easy on themselves by making their rival choose a starter that's weak against their solo pokemon (ie. choosing Squirtle for a Pidgey run). I, however, was having none of that! So I ended up choosing Treecko, which in the end made it way harder than it should have been.

[Raptacular Haberdasher]

Winning with Sunkern, that's pretty swell.
Might I suggest trying Luvdisc as well?
On an easier note, there's nothing quite the same
as owning Kanto and Hoenn in the Tentaquil (http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/group.php?gid=126094877435953&ref=ts) game.
Yes, memes are annoying, but this one is surprisingly fun.
And it actually got a hack right on day one.

[Julford Hajime]

Winning with Sunkern, that's pretty swell.
Might I suggest trying Luvdisc as well?
On an easier note, there's nothing quite the same
as owning Kanto and Hoenn in the Tentaquil (http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/group.php?gid=126094877435953&ref=ts) game.
Yes, memes are annoying, but this one is surprisingly fun.
And it actually got a hack right on day one.

Dammit, I don't know what this... THING is, yet I'm now playing my pokemon game with one. Tempted to Nuzlocke it like someone else on FB was talking about doing, but I know better.

[Raptacular Haberdasher]

Nuzlocking with Tentaquil's easy as pie.
Use Surf and Puke Blood; watch everyone die.

[Thadius]

Murphy damnit, the only thing wrong with having overpowered killing machines is when stuff like this happens.

Enigma stone/Soul dew/whatever the hell you're calling it/Latios/Latias download come this weekend.

[Bob The Mercenary]

So how's our Black/White reservation status? The Gamestop near me has almost 80% Black versions reserved so I went with white for the trades. I have no idea what else is different between the versions though.

[Viridis]

Man, half the new ones (http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml) look so retarded.

[Savage Thinking]

So after taking a break from 4th gen I decided to play something that's a little different, Pokemon Green. What makes it "different"? Here's the dialogue that appears when you interact with the Pallet Town sign:

http://i34.tinypic.com/307ssis.gif

Yeah...

[Token]

So, Black and White are hitting Japan on Thursday, and this is the most excited I've ever been for a game, for one big reason: the Pokemon.

There are no old Pokemon in the game until after you beat it. Do you know what this means? Caves without Geodude and Zubat. Seas without Tentacool and Magikarp. YOUNGSTERS WITHOUT RATTATA. Isshu is a beautiful world.

As for the new Pokemon, almost everything revealed recently has been consistently awesome.

http://i56.tinypic.com/30t46iv.jpg Take Buffafro, for example. His signature fucking move is called Afro Break, for fuck's sake.

http://i54.tinypic.com/if8uhu.jpg Then there's Mushawhateverthefuck. His name doesn't even matter, he's the second creepiest motherfucker to ever fuck a mother. He will rape your dreams and be chill the entire fucking time. In fact, up until this weekend, every single picture of him was just chilling the fuck out and being asleep. He has his own, much creepier rendition of the battle music. And he will fuck your shit up.

You'll notice I said Mushabatman was only the second creepiest. Why? Because fucking Sarcophaghost.

http://i52.tinypic.com/33dxlrn.jpg

Fucking christ. He's got Smogon people pissing themselves already. This creepy son of a bitch will do to the metagame what Glen Beck does to intelligent thought. Go ahead. Attack him. Your ability becomes "Mummy." As does the ability of everything that touches anything else with Mummy. Rain Dish? Gone. Drizzle? Gone. Your Scizor's precious Technician? FUCKING GONE. And he even helps out his bros. Lead with this guy. He takes a hit, the opponent gets mummy. Switch into Slaking. Opponent attacks, Slacking gets mummy, and proceeds to rape everything without having to rest every other turn.

Jesus fuck.

[Viridis]

That does seem like a neat ability.


While a few of the new pokemon are neat, a fair number seem pretty stupid. Like whatever this is:
http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/tamagetake.jpg

[Regulus Tera]

I'm choosing Tsutarja solely because his last evo is the least retarded-looking.

Augh, third Fire/Fighting starter in a row.

[Julford Hajime]

Hmm... To wait for spring, or to import the fuck outta this...

Because at first I was thinking I'd only enjoy it if I could read it, but then I realized that I skipped as much of the long-ass text in DPPt as I could, so...

*Looks up ways to import this mofo* Any tips? Also, suggestions for version? So far I've found playasia with the game for $65, which I'm totally willing to pay, but being a cheap bastard I have to ask if anyone found it cheaper >.>

[Token]

Dunno where to import, but go with White. It has Zekrom and Jellybaby.

[bluestarultor]

Man, half the new ones (http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml) look so retarded.

Most of them don't look that bad. Probably one of the better generations, IMO.

The tall squirrel looks like a Showbiz Pizza character from Hell, though.


Edit: I do notice a lot feels recycled, though. Didn't we just HAVE a fire monkey?

[Kim]

These all look perfectly fine.

[Regulus Tera]

So smug.

http://imgur.com/4yrjL.jpg

[Token]

Fucking shit, I love Bicroculars' evolution so much.

Other crap: Smuglord has good speed and defenses, but has shit attack. He looks a lot better in game than in the (semi)official artwork, so that's good. And I liked his artwork. Wotter3 looks a lot better as well.

[Locke cole]

Because fucking Sarcophaghost.

Man, that's a much better name than the one I came up with.

Even if "Koffin" is only one letter removed from "Koffing", making it funny.



Oh, and Lighting Zebra evolution is amazing, and what in the world is Shinpora supposed to be?

[Token]

http://i54.tinypic.com/2luaskk.jpg
I'm thinking Nazca Lines. Like Unown should have been. Whatever it is, fucking WANT.

[Locke cole]

OK yeah, I see it now.

Now see, fandom? That is what we call a reference to Native American culture. Wargle is not.

[Token]

OK yeah, I see it now.

Now see, fandom? That is what we call a reference to Native American culture. Wargle is not.

That's because Wargle is what Stephen Colbert would be if he was a furry.

EDIT: Dive is an HM. Please excuse me while I jizz all over my computer.

[Julford Hajime]

EDIT: Dive is an HM. Please excuse me while I jizz all over my computer.

Are you kidding me? Dive is a terrible move and it was easily the most annoying and boring part of Gen 3.

*Runs off to rage incoherently*

[Token]

Are you kidding me? Dive is a terrible move and it was easily the most annoying and boring part of Gen 3.

*Runs off to rage incoherently*

The move sucked, but I personally felt that it provided some of the most beautiful parts of Gen 3. Isshu was a pretty big and exciting region already, being able to dive is just the icing on the cake.

[Locke cole]

Base stats leaked! Base stats leaked! Base stats leaked! (http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml)

Deathkan has better physical defenses than Spiritomb!

Hihidaruma has COMPLETELY insane attack!

Candelabraghost that I can't remember the name of has 145 special attack!

Drillmole is awesome!

Everything is awesome!

YYYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHH!

[Tev]

http://i54.tinypic.com/if8uhu.jpg Then there's Mushawhateverthefuck. His name doesn't even matter, he's the second creepiest motherfucker to ever fuck a mother. He will rape your dreams and be chill the entire fucking time. In fact, up until this weekend, every single picture of him was just chilling the fuck out and being asleep. He has his own, much creepier rendition of the battle music. And he will fuck your shit up.

Jesus fuck.

Hmm......my Gen 1 recycled Pokemon sense is tingling......

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/3/3e/Butch_and_Cassidys_Drowzee.png/200px-Butch_and_Cassidys_Drowzee.png

[Julford Hajime]

Assuming those are correct (I question it simply because some of the Base Stat Totals are insanely high), this generation will basically be ALL ATTACK, ALL THE TIME.

I mean, a pokemon with 110 speed (Ties Espeon, Gengar, Froslass) has 140 attack (Which is giagntic, tying Rhyperior and beating Salamence, Dragonite, Garchomp, etc) and 112 SpA (Beating Empoleon, Salamence, Blaziken, Houndoom, etc.). Just based on the stats alone, he's one of the most offensively powerful attackers and will demolish damn near anything.

Though I have to admit, the Kamen Rider poke (#625Kirikizan, I think), is pretty much instantly my favorite for being A KAMEN RIDER POKEMON.

[Token]

Words cannot express how excited I am about the fire-ghost type. It's beautiful.

[Viridis]

That ghost-fire type does look nice. Feels similar to Rotom, but in a good way.

I like Abagoora, the new Water/Rock turtle thing.

[Menarker]

Oh wow! Torunerosu is our first pure flying type! Not Normal/Flying. PURE FLYING TYPE.

[Locke cole]

I want to give him Roost just to see him turn into ???? type for a round.

[Locke cole]

So guys, just learned something.

616: Chobomaki: snail wearing an iron helmet.
617: Agirudaa: Ticked-off snail ninja

588: Kaburuchi: shady-looking beetle
589: Shubarugo: bug-knight wearing an upgraded version of Chobomaki's armor.

Why does the iron-helmet snail not tun into a knight wearing the same armor?

It was intentional. To evolve Chobomaki and Kaburuchi, you have to trade one for the other. In the trading process, Kaburuchi steals Chobomaki's helmet in order to evolve, and Chobomaki is now stuck without a helmet and evolves into a really ticked-off snail.

Chobomaki evolves by stealing.

[Yrcrazypa]

For real, or did you just make that up? Although I see what you mean, when I look at it.

[Locke cole]

That's something I heard. Two different people on a thread in Smogon responded with that explanation, at different times, to someone asking about that evolution.

And it's been mentioned on a thread in Serebii, too. I think it's legit.

[Menarker]

Considering that bug pokemons have the most numerous types of alternative methods to evolutions, I'm not as shocked as I would normally be to hear that.

[Regulus Tera]

http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-3.jpg Jörmungandr
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-71.jpg Leviathan (I always name my main water Leviathan)
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-110.jpg Izanagi
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-61.jpg Surya
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-141.jpg Ancalagon
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/black-white/new-pokemon/isshu-pokemon-36.jpg GaoGaiGar

Elite Four, bow before me.

[Bifrost]

You guys are missing the most important part: Archaeopteryx pokemon. Archaeopteryx Pokemon.

Yes, we finally got an actual dinosaur as a fossil. :D I AM FILLED WITH NERDY GLEE.

*Therapod. Actual therapod dinosaur.

[Menarker]

It seems interesting that the pokedex in the serebii website is jumbled up in the wrong order.

To clarify, most pokemons that don't share the same family but having a similar theme in terms of stats or so, tend to be side by side in the pokedex, especially if they are legendary.

In generation 1 for example, we had the Vaporeon, Jolteon and Flareon as one cycle of pokemon. Jynx, Electrabuzz and Magmar as another cycle with a similar set of elements. And on top of that was Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres. All the same elements sharing mostly the same theme (some differences present).

Generation 2 followed the same theme by extending the cycle to the legendary roaming pokemons, Raikou, Entei and Suicuine.

Generation 3 had the Regis. Regirock, Regice and Registeel. They also had the "Land, Sea and Sky" theme in a way with Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza.

Generation 4 had the Emotion pokemons Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf. >_> They missed the chance of another cycle via the evolutions of Electrivere and Magmortar but forgot to make an evolution for Jynx.

Generation 5 though... The Serebii website has a few cycles in the wrong order and/or broken the cycle they had going.

Four pokemons have the special ability Justice Heart and have the same base stats (in different order) Three of them are in a row (638, 639, 640) but the other one doesn't appear until 647 despite it being perfectly natural to be number 641.

Then there are 3 flying pokemons with VERY SIMILAR art style. Two of them however have the exact same ability and base stats but the third one doesn't. (The two matching one is 641 and 642, with the third being 645)

And lastly are the three elemental dragons which SUPRISE SUPRISE follow the same theme as the Eevee evolutions, the Elemental Punchers, the Elemental birds, and the roaming legendaries! The dragons which two of them are on cover of the boxes of Black and White! The fire counterpart (similar to magmar) and the lightning counterpart (similar to electrabuzz) both have nearly identical stats and a unique ability. Now the third one, the ice type (similar to Jynx) has fairly different stats and the not-so-special ability "Pressure". So it is even treated as unequally as Jynx was! (They are 643, 644 and 646 respectively.)

Interesting...

(Looking forward to the NEXT generation when we get pokemon #666.)

[Locke cole]

The four Justice Heart dudes.

From what I hear, they're based off of the Three Musketeers, at least superficially.

So the first three would be Athos, Porthos, and Aramis, and the fourth is D'artagnan.

But I digress. The reason the D'artagnan one is separate on the Pokédex is because he's the only Justice Heart guy to be an Event Legendary.

[Regulus Tera]

http://www.jontendo.co.uk/gfx/flatfish.jpg

[Locke cole]

Dude.

Sarcophaghost learns Mean Look

"Hi, you just lost your fancy-shmancy ability. Oh, and you can't run. And next round I'm thinking about Cursing you or hitting you with a Burn; how does that sound?"

Oh, and Arigudaa, that ticked-off snailninja? He learns Me First, and he's got great Speed to use it.


edit:

Whoa. Dreamworld abilities released (http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/dreamworldabilities.shtml).

Let's just say that Ninetails and Politoed are probably going to see a lot more use now.

[Regulus Tera]

I now know why I love all these Pokeymanz. They all feel like they came out from MOTHER 3.


SPOILERS : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dGwRXa9koE

[Shyria Dracnoir]

I now know why I love all these Pokeymanz. They all feel like they came out from MOTHER 3.


SPOILERS : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dGwRXa9koE

If I remember correctly, Game Freak was the same team that worked on the Earthbound games, or at least hired a bunch of people who did.

[Regulus Tera]

MOTHER 3 != EarthBound

The monster design in M3 is vastly superior.

[Locke cole]

Firepig's Dreamworld ability is Reckless.

He learns Flare Blitz and Headsmash. Nice.

Speaking of Reckless: Hi Jump Kick has a bas power of 130 now.

Reckless Hitmonelee with that move would be awesome.

[Flarecobra]

http://www.jontendo.co.uk/gfx/flatfish.jpg

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9658/bubbleaniobjection.gif

Sorry, but not everyone's forgotten about Dunsparce. Been using him in my playthough of Crystal... and he's been kicking some major ass.

So long as he's not up agenst fighting types. >_>

Though I will admit, he might not be as great in the other 3 generations... but sometimes it's fun to try out the ones others do not use. Be surprised what can happon.

[Token]

Dunsparce is actually a cult favorite among the fandom. Hell yeah.

[Regulus Tera]

I'm sure even Bidoof has a cult fandom.

[Token]

I'm sure even Bidoof has a cult fandom.

You've got a Shopoke avatar. You don't really have room to talk.

So, Genosect may have toppled Arceus when it comes to sheer badassery. I mean fuck.

[Viridis]

So, Genosect may have toppled Arceus when it comes to sheer badassery. I mean fuck.:raise: Hm? Explain. How much is known about it at this point? All I have to go on is the sprite (which doesn't look so badass, just stark and strange) and the fact that it is bug/steel.

[Token]

:raise: Hm? Explain. How much is known about it at this point? All I have to go on is the sprite (which doesn't look so badass, just stark and strange) and the fact that it is bug/steel.

Five forms, alive since the Paleozoic era, experimented on/upgraded by Team Plasma, goes by the name Dennis, has Download, and it's name comes from Genocide, and its moveset is insane. Isn't that enough?

[Viridis]

:raise: That... that is certainly something.





…Dennis?

[Token]

:raise: That... that is certainly something.





…Dennis?

Info comes from Serebii.

Paleozic Pokemon. The ancient Bug Pokemon that was altered by Team Plasma. The cannon on its back is powered up.

As for why Dennis, take a listen to his battle music. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFgFoomoI40)

[Melfice]

Info comes from Serebii.



As for why Dennis, take a listen to his battle music. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFgFoomoI40)

I still don't get it. Better explanation, please?

[Viridis]

Listen to about halfway. Choir seems to be chanting 'Dennis'.


After all you've said, Token, I want one. A lot. It known if it's available through the story or annoying special events?

[Regulus Tera]

You've got a Shopoke avatar. You don't really have room to talk.

So, Genosect may have toppled Arceus when it comes to sheer badassery. I mean fuck.

Slowpoke has a personality. Bidoof's a dweeb.