Pokemon X Version and Y Version [Archive] - The Warring States of NPF

Menarker

01-08-2013, 01:38 PM

Judging from the looks of the trailer, two of the gyms look like bug and fire type.

Hoping they finally have a dark type gym.

If it was up to ME, all gyms would be dual or even trio gyms, emphasizing their combined role in the pokemon world (like rock/ice in a gym set in the mountains, or psychic/fighting in a university where the best bodies and minds go) and I'd have the elite four be based not on the remaining elements but set like Norman's gym in Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald, where each one emphasizes a pokemon combat style like speed, crit, defense, status conditions, abilties or what not. That way any mixture of pokemon could be used so long as they support a general theme/build.

Ryong

01-08-2013, 01:43 PM

X and Y? ...Will Deoxys be involved?

Loyal

01-08-2013, 01:46 PM

I realize they're probably running out of color theme twin names by now, but "X" and "Y"?

Tev

01-08-2013, 01:52 PM

I realize they're probably running out of color theme twin names by now, but "X" and "Y"?It's the setup for the ultimate in pokemon combat: Pokemon Z: Super Saiyan Edition!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/leafar4/7543535586/

Ryong

01-08-2013, 01:54 PM

See this is why they went with Black 2 and White 2 before, so when they want to make a special version of these it won't be Pok�mon Z and no one will find it weird.

Menarker

01-08-2013, 02:08 PM

Maybe X and Y is supposed to be fancy chromosome talk for "Boy and Girl"

The reindeer X one (hinted by the logos in the trailer) looks feminine and having the blue color while the flying type one hinted for Y looks pretty damn masculine and sporting the color red.

RobinStarwing

01-08-2013, 02:14 PM

See this is why they went with Black 2 and White 2 before, so when they want to make a special version of these it won't be Pok�mon Z and no one will find it weird.

There's fan speculation already that the games after it might be Pokemon XX and Pokemon XY.

Tev

01-08-2013, 02:17 PM

There's fan speculation already that the games after it might be Pokemon XX and Pokemon XY.Oh, you mean Pokemon Breeder for the Wii?

Bells

01-08-2013, 02:18 PM

Well they didn`t really ran out of colors... they just used all the good ones. Then there was all the gemstones and that soul silver stuff... and now we are going into abstract stuff like X and Y... mind you that the 2 new legendaries, one is a big Furry X Wing and the other is a huge Y deer thing apaprently

Ryong

01-08-2013, 02:21 PM

There's fan speculation already that the games after it might be Pokemon XX and Pokemon XY.

Oh, you mean Pokemon Breeder for the Wii?

WILL WE FINALLY FIND OUT WHERE THE EGGS COME FROM?

Tev

01-08-2013, 02:40 PM

WILL WE FINALLY FIND OUT WHERE THE EGGS COME FROM?From Dittos.

Kyanbu The Legend

01-08-2013, 02:51 PM

From Dittos.

I thought everyone knew this already.

Locke cole

01-08-2013, 02:52 PM

People are speculating that the stag and bird are references to some of the creatures on the tree Yggdrasil in Norse mythology.

If that's true, I'm expecting Z to have a Dragon legendary based off of Nidhogg, and that this Gen's Cute Legendary will be a squirrel, based off of Ratatosk.

Donomni

01-08-2013, 03:01 PM

Yeah, there's probably gonna be a Z version.

X, Y, and Z are all 3D axis, dontcha know?

Considering they're the first mainline Gen of Pokemon on the 3DS... waaaay too coincidental.

Also, I honestly thought the X legendary was a Kirin, not a stag. I blame Studio Ghibli.

Bells

01-08-2013, 03:11 PM

So we might actually be looking into a Norse theme here? That`s kinda nice... we will know for sure if they come up with a multi-legged horse.

Roland

01-08-2013, 03:19 PM

If I get Pokemon X, Pokemon Y, and Pokemon Z, can I combine them into Pokemon XYZ Dragon Cannon?

Ah man, I stayed up all night waiting for this announcement with a friend once she told me about it. Actually kinda stoked for this, and I don't usually get stoked for Pokemon these days.

Would Black 2 or White 2 be worth picking up? I had my heart set on Fire Emblem Awakening (it's coming out soon), but Pokemon is, well, Pokemon.

Kim

01-08-2013, 03:35 PM

Maybe X and Y is supposed to be fancy chromosome talk for "Boy and Girl"

I'm REALLY hoping this isn't why they're named this. Such a name would make me fearful of this Pokemon game being more sexist than the average Pokemon game, let alone the cis-centric way of thinking that chromosomes equal gender.

Tev

01-08-2013, 03:38 PM

I'm REALLY hoping this isn't why they're named this. Such a name would make me fearful of this Pokemon game being more sexist than the average Pokemon game, let alone the cis-centric way of thinking that chromosomes equal gender.Well, as far as the game is concerned, all it really changes is if you have a pony tail and wear shorts or get short hair and wear pants.

Kyanbu The Legend

01-08-2013, 03:40 PM

I doubt it. There isn't enough shown for that to be the reason behind naming them that.

More then likely. They were named X and Y for the sake of sounding cool.

Locke cole

01-08-2013, 03:42 PM

Well, as far as the game is concerned, all it really changes is if you have a pony tail and wear shorts or get short hair and wear pants.

No, it changes whether you pass down your species or your egg moves.

Arcanum

01-08-2013, 03:42 PM

My money is on XYZ because THREEEEE DEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Kyanbu The Legend

01-08-2013, 03:45 PM

Probably but that's only if a third version is made. Which is unlikely seeing as Nintendo decided to drop the whole 3rd version thing altogether in favor of mid gen sequals.

One game for the price of four!

Tev

01-08-2013, 03:47 PM

No, it changes whether you pass down your species or your egg moves.Well yeah, that too, but that's just how biology works with mitochondrial DNA and inheritance.

Loyal

01-08-2013, 03:57 PM

Actually the "3D Axis" thing makes an incredible amount of sense.

Locke cole

01-08-2013, 04:10 PM

Cleverer than some other methods of working a system's name into a game title.

Aldurin

01-08-2013, 04:33 PM

Gen 6 is too kawaii for me

FTFY

Nikose Tyris

01-08-2013, 05:03 PM

Kyanbu The Legend

01-08-2013, 05:14 PM

Yeah I figured these names weren't gender based.

Menarker

01-08-2013, 05:16 PM

I think it's even more simple than that Nikose.

If you glance at the logo of X and Y (as can be seen on 1:45 of the trailer), X is stylized with the antlers while the Y one is stylized closer to that of feathers, probably as an early representation of which game they serve as the mascot of.

Hence X-ander and Yander is just a quick and easy way of referring to them based on which game they'll show up in and the pertaining physical trait that is associated with them.

Revising Ocelot

01-08-2013, 05:21 PM

Black & White was totally racist.

Locke cole

01-08-2013, 06:19 PM

Yeah. I mean, just look at the Black version. What are they trying to say, with Reshiram as the box legendary for that one, that every black person just has a white guy inside them, yearning to make himself known? That's how Michael Jackson happened!

Bells

01-08-2013, 07:06 PM

Zapdos, Moltres and Articuno represent Christianity, Islam and Judaism.

There. I Broke it. Can we go back to be a bunch of nearly 30 year olds talking about Pokemans?

Locke cole

01-08-2013, 07:09 PM

Wait a second. Black in white, and white in black. Yin-yang...

Pokemon Black and White are secret symbols for Shintoism!

Do you know what that means?

Pokemon is secretly Japanese!

RobinStarwing

01-08-2013, 07:26 PM

Wait a second. Black in white, and white in black. Yin-yang...

Pokemon Black and White are secret symbols for Shintoism!

Do you know what that means?

Pokemon is secretly Japanese!

Wow! All these years I thought it was a Soviet Mind Control Indoctrination Experiment gone mad!

I guess to expect the JSDF to be drafting us to fly planes on a bombing run to something from an airfield in Colorado right?

Token

01-08-2013, 11:41 PM

Well it seems that the adopted names so far are Xander (Boy) and Yander (Girl); XX is girl and XY is boy, right?

So at least /vg/ and tumblr isn't subscribing to the whole Chromosomes arguement in the names.

(dude i was being totally tongue in cheek when i made that post we don't have adopted names yet and the yander thing was me joking about /vp/'s yandere lyra and rosa threads)

(tumblr at least is evenly split between the chromosomes and the axis thing)

Bells

01-08-2013, 11:46 PM

Yeah but it's Tumblr... c'mon...

Nikose Tyris

01-09-2013, 12:33 AM

(dude i was being totally tongue in cheek when i made that post we don't have adopted names yet and the yander thing was me joking about /vp/'s yandere lyra and rosa threads)

(tumblr at least is evenly split between the chromosomes and the axis thing)

Just so we're clear you are literally 4chan to me, I don't go there anymore so whatever you say is literally fact to me

Loyal

01-09-2013, 12:47 AM

If X & Y represented genders or sexes, what would the third game represent?

Ramary

01-09-2013, 01:40 AM

NEXT TIME ON POK-E-MON Z.

Menarker

01-09-2013, 02:36 AM

If X & Y represented genders or sexes, what would the third game represent?

Heh, a genderless pokemon might be the next logical step.

Perhaps something man-made instead of being biological/natural. A poison type legendary (probably some sort of sentient chemical) would be neat as currently there are no poison type legendary in the entire franchise (except for poison plate Arceus, but he doesn't really count since he could be any single type).

EDIT: And I'm holding out hope that this game will enable catching pokemon from all the previous generations from the start instead of having to beat the game first to unlock previous gen pokemon. The footage has Gen 1 (Dratini and Pikachu), Gen 2 (Weavile, an evolution of a gen 2 pokemon even though the evolution itself came in Gen 4) Gen 3 (Ralts), and Gen 5 (A bunch including Golurk and Mienfoo).

Loyal

01-09-2013, 02:41 AM

Legendaries are already genderless as a rule of thumb, so that's no good...

Menarker

01-09-2013, 02:53 AM

Not all of them though. A prominent exception being Latios (Male) and Latias (Female). So there is a precedent for that sort of thing. Heatran also can be either gender (50%) and yet does not lay eggs and is often classified as a legendary.

Locke cole

01-09-2013, 03:17 AM

Brace yourself for Pokemon GCAT.

BloodyMage

01-09-2013, 08:46 AM

Heh, a genderless pokemon might be the next logical step.

Perhaps something man-made instead of being biological/natural. A poison type legendary (probably some sort of sentient chemical) would be neat as currently there are no poison type legendary in the entire franchise (except for poison plate Arceus, but he doesn't really count since he could be any single type).

EDIT: And I'm holding out hope that this game will enable catching pokemon from all the previous generations from the start instead of having to beat the game first to unlock previous gen pokemon. The footage has Gen 1 (Dratini and Pikachu), Gen 2 (Weavile, an evolution of a gen 2 pokemon even though the evolution itself came in Gen 4) Gen 3 (Ralts), and Gen 5 (A bunch including Golurk and Mienfoo).

Isn't Ditto a genderless pokemon?

Kinda seems that man-made and legendary would be some what contradictory. It would be interesting, but most of the legendaries have been gods and spirits and things connected to the very most fundamental elements of the universe. The one man-made legendary I can think of, Mewtwo' is largely considered, in universe at least, to be inferior to the god/spirit legendaries.

There may be a small number available before beating the game but I think they like to keep a sizeable amount until afterwards because it allows the games some extra replay value.

Bells

01-09-2013, 10:34 AM

I know i`m getting old cause i`m hearing you fellas talking about man made Legendaries and i keep thinking Mewtwo

Locke cole

01-09-2013, 10:40 AM

Ah, Mewtwo. The first and still the best.

Professor Smarmiarty

01-09-2013, 11:02 AM

Why, if it was made by science, does mewtwo have psychic powers. Someone didn't think this through.

Locke cole

01-09-2013, 11:08 AM

Because science was copying something WITH psychic powers.

That, or Mewtwo is kidding himself, and is trying desperately to classify his brain-mounted antigrav unit (BAU) as something other than science.

Bells

01-09-2013, 11:11 AM

Considering that Mewtwo is a Super Clone, copying the original`s power is within sci fi realm.

I call the Mental powers of the Japanese Clone Cat Monster to be legit!

Professor Smarmiarty

01-09-2013, 11:23 AM

Psychic means of the soul/mind. If your powers are genetically/epigenetically based then they are not psychic by definition.

RobinStarwing

01-09-2013, 11:29 AM

Psychic means of the soul/mind. If your powers are genetically/epigenetically based then they are not psychic by definition.

Smarty...you are trying to insert real world values/definitions on a fictional universe.

Mewtwo is a Psychic Type Super-clone of Mew, a Psychic Type.
Hence it has Psychic Powers.
Hence it will proceed to eradicate you should you tick it off.

Argument over.

Locke cole

01-09-2013, 11:31 AM

Can they not genetically engineer you such that your brain is advanced enough to accommodate the growth of psychic powers?

I mean, it being of the mind is all well and good, but the brain has to come into play at some point for you rmind to have something to come from, which is something they can attempt to re-create.

With hollywood genetics, anyway.

And clones can totally have a soul. That was the point of the first movie (well, the American version, anyway. Mew was kind of a dick to clones in the Japanese version)

Professor Smarmiarty

01-09-2013, 11:38 AM

Menarker

01-09-2013, 11:44 AM

Isn't Ditto a genderless pokemon?

Kinda seems that man-made and legendary would be some what contradictory. It would be interesting, but most of the legendaries have been gods and spirits and things connected to the very most fundamental elements of the universe. The one man-made legendary I can think of, Mewtwo' is largely considered, in universe at least, to be inferior to the god/spirit legendaries.

There may be a small number available before beating the game but I think they like to keep a sizeable amount until afterwards because it allows the games some extra replay value.

Well, a recent one (although a disappointing one) is Genesect. Although technically, he is an extinct pokemon (although we never had to get a fossil of him) that was already dangerous when it was alive, but then revived and grafted with technology to make it even worse.

And yes, while ditto is genderless, he breeds like crazy. But his entire gimmick is based around mimicking other pokemon, even rewriting its own genetic code flawlessly to become the opposite gender of species that otherwise don't specifically have the opposite gender in game like Kangaskhan (which lacks a male counterpart).
Then again, Ditto isn't exactly necessary for this, given that pokemon can mate with pokemon of other species so long as they share similar egg groups.

Locke cole

01-09-2013, 12:01 PM

If the powers stem from some genetic coding of your brain development then are they really psychic powers anymore, should we not develop a new name to reflect our greater understanding? Should we carry on calling chemistry alchemy?
The manifestation we see of psychic powers in the pokemon universe is spoon-bending which keys this into traditional representations of psychic powers and not simply you are really intelligent and in this universe that means you can bend things with your mind. Psychic ability does seem to be in this universe an on/off switch, either you have it or you don't which would suggest a genetic basis in which case we need a new word for it.

I'm not sure if we need a new name for the ability to perform action at a distance due to your greater intelligence, probably because any other word for such a thing would smack of "psychic powers, but we don't want to call them psychic powers today"

Besides, I'm pretty sure that Mewtwo was not the first result of the cloning project. I get the feeling that the researchers in the burned building probably went through a number of clones with Mew's brain structure before one actually manifested its powers.

Of course, that sort of interferes with the idea of psychic species that always have such powers, even the really dopey ones like Slowpoke.

Professor Smarmiarty

01-09-2013, 12:27 PM

BloodyMage

01-09-2013, 12:49 PM

Psychic means of the soul/mind. If your powers are genetically/epigenetically based then they are not psychic by definition.

If the powers stem from some genetic coding of your brain development then are they really psychic powers anymore, should we not develop a new name to reflect our greater understanding? Should we carry on calling chemistry alchemy?
The manifestation we see of psychic powers in the pokemon universe is spoon-bending which keys this into traditional representations of psychic powers and not simply you are really intelligent and in this universe that means you can bend things with your mind. Psychic ability does seem to be in this universe an on/off switch, either you have it or you don't which would suggest a genetic basis in which case we need a new word for it.

What it's it's part of the genetic code that unlocks the psychic ability? As in the ability is still to do with the mind/soul but it would be impossible with a certain strand of genetic code. Might explain why not all pokemon can learn all TMs as well. It could also suggest that cloning Mew wasn't just about figuring out if you could clone a pokemon (because really, why start on something so advanced that is said to contain the dna of all pokemon?) but more about isolating that psychic strand of DNA.

Well, a recent one (although a disappointing one) is Genesect. Although technically, he is an extinct pokemon (although we never had to get a fossil of him) that was already dangerous when it was alive, but then revived and grafted with technology to make it even worse.

And yes, while ditto is genderless, he breeds like crazy. But his entire gimmick is based around mimicking other pokemon, even rewriting its own genetic code flawlessly to become the opposite gender of species that otherwise don't specifically have the opposite gender in game like Kangaskhan (which lacks a male counterpart).
Then again, Ditto isn't exactly necessary for this, given that pokemon can mate with pokemon of other species so long as they share similar egg groups.

Ah, I forgot about Genesect and his cannon.

But Ditto itself can't breed. I don't think there's a way to get a ditto egg. Even genderless pokemon like Magnemite can breed with ditto but ditto itself can't manipulate it's own genetic code in a way to create a new ditto.

Which poses the question, where the hell do dittos come from?

Ryong

01-09-2013, 12:57 PM

Probably makes clones of itself.
Maybe in the future we'll have Ditto randomly carry an egg which results into a new Ditto being born?

Also, the Psychic moves don't really always mean great intelligence. I doubt Butterfree's so smart and they get confusion, for example.

Bells

01-09-2013, 01:10 PM

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1vwblntC81r470lto1_500.jpg

Locke cole

01-09-2013, 01:21 PM

If I burn something am I releasing philostogen? If I convert iron into gold in the sun am I fixing its essence by removing the impure spirits? If Mars moves backwards in the sky is that because it runs in epicycles?

If I levitate an object with a power originating in my brain, is it any less telekinesis if I understand how it works? Like, if it happens that the explanation still means that the power comes from the brain/mind, wouldn't it be disingenuous to move away from that word?

Actually, "Telekinesis" just comes from two different words that basically mean "motion". Strange. You'd think the word for "mind" would be in there somewhere.

Or do you have a proposal for what we would call psychic powers when we understand what causes them to happen? Because that'd be kinda cool.

Hm. How does Butterfree use psychic powers? The structure of its brain, as well as its way of thinking, would be very different than, say, Alakazam. I doubt a big smart fox thing thinks the same way as a butterfly.

And yeah, being smart isn't a prerequisite for being psychic. Just look at Slowpoke (Shellder of Knowledge notwithstanding).

now, if it turns out that what we thought was psychic powers actually comes from a magnetic gland in the stomach or something, then that would be a serious call to change our definitions, in the same way that the idea of phlogiston was dropped when we found out more about the transfer of energy causing a loss in mass.

Bells

01-09-2013, 01:44 PM

well..... technically, Magic also comes from the Brain. I mean, yeah, your body or soul might be the vessel through which you are channeling the energy you will form into the effect you`re creating.. but the brain does the process, the brain understands and molds the energy through your Arcane Knowledge and Training...

No wonder we have Pyrokinesis as a branch of Psychic power.

Professor Smarmiarty

01-09-2013, 01:56 PM

If I levitate an object with a power originating in my brain, is it any less telekinesis if I understand how it works? Like, if it happens that the explanation still means that the power comes from the brain/mind, wouldn't it be disingenuous to move away from that word?

Actually, "Telekinesis" just comes from two different words that basically mean "motion". Strange. You'd think the word for "mind" would be in there somewhere.

Or do you have a proposal for what we would call psychic powers when we understand what causes them to happen? Because that'd be kinda cool.

Hm. How does Butterfree use psychic powers? The structure of its brain, as well as its way of thinking, would be very different than, say, Alakazam. I doubt a big smart fox thing thinks the same way as a butterfly.

And yeah, being smart isn't a prerequisite for being psychic. Just look at Slowpoke (Shellder of Knowledge notwithstanding).

now, if it turns out that what we thought was psychic powers actually comes from a magnetic gland in the stomach or something, then that would be a serious call to change our definitions, in the same way that the idea of phlogiston was dropped when we found out more about the transfer of energy causing a loss in mass.

You realise that despite writing multiple paragraphs you didn't actually contradict my point here?

Locke cole

01-09-2013, 02:34 PM

Which was, what, that we have, in the past, renamed stuff when we came to new conclusions?

I'm still not convinced that that is relevant, because Mewtwo still has mind powers. It's just that his genetic code was tweaked to grow the sort of mind likely to manifest such powers. Or, more to the point, probably not tweaked, because Mew is also psychic and they were just trying to copy what he had.

And there are things we haven't renamed, even when learning more about how they work. Do we need to rename psychic powers because those scientists know why things fly around when Mewtwo thinks at them?

The issue is whether or not the new knowledge contradicts what came before (as was the case of finding out how fire really works, or the shape of planetary orbis), and it seems for all the world like Mewtwo's powers still come from his mind, so what's the problem? Starting to think this a semantics issue.

edit:

So, wouldn't it be interesting if we got a "Room" move that reversed stat changes for the duration of the effect? Or perhaps a non-damaging hazard-clearing move. Probably be Flying or "Psychic" type.

Kim

01-09-2013, 05:17 PM

http://24.media.tumblr.com/b1530011224031f04d9c60ee0ffe9dd2/tumblr_mgdmilNCDV1qe0fcyo1_500.jpg

Best fanart.

Bard The 5th LW

01-09-2013, 05:54 PM

Which poses the question, where the hell do dittos come from?

A common theory is that dittos were botched clones of mew, as they are found in some areas associated with Metwo, can learn transform like Mew, and allegedly have the same weight as Mew as well.

BloodyMage

01-09-2013, 10:07 PM

Aldurin

01-09-2013, 10:41 PM

So why are there so many? Like, they're not even just in Kanto, they're everywhere. With the exception of Ruby/Sapphire, you can catch them in the wild in every region. The scientists only had x amount of time to attempt to clone Mew before they succeeded and Mewtwo destroyed the labs and fled so dittos should be limited in number.

Because Team Rocket is really the Umbrella Corporation, a secret which is pretty obvious because their resource management is just as retarded and whatever counts as a failure spreads like flies and fucks up the ecosystem.

Locke cole

01-09-2013, 10:41 PM

Asexual division.

Jagos

01-10-2013, 08:15 AM

Jesus H tap-dancing Christ, how the hell am I going to collect them all now?!

Flarecobra

01-10-2013, 08:35 AM

If there is a pokemon Z game... you know what it's gotta be, right?

http://sadpanda.us/images/1340964-V6AQK41.png

Professor Smarmiarty

01-10-2013, 08:53 AM

Bells

01-10-2013, 10:15 AM

now i`m curious... what labels?

Aerozord

01-10-2013, 03:58 PM

Not sure if I really want to drop the money to get a 3DS to be honest, and I just got White 2 so it should keep me busy for

Also, given the grass starter is based off a hedgehog

:argh:

BloodyMage

01-10-2013, 08:44 PM

If there is a pokemon Z game... you know what it's gotta be, right?

http://sadpanda.us/images/1340964-V6AQK41.png

This is amazing.

Kyanbu The Legend

01-11-2013, 04:42 PM

Jesus H tap-dancing Christ, how the hell am I going to collect them all now?!

There is really no point in collecting them all.

Most people gave up on doing that and only play for the sake of online battles and a quick buzz off of single player.

And for those very small few not in the know. Originally the whole "only 151" (technically 152 as Ho-oh was shown very early in the anime before gen2 was even close to a release) thing was mostly due to there being no plans for a generation 2 during the first game's creation. The anime was even originally suppose to only have 50 episodes. Ending with Ash winning the pokemon league.

But Pokemon got very popular, and so eventually the writers droped the whole limited number of pokemon thing. And now it's stated that there are now thousands apone thousands of pokemon, that's yet to be discovered. And the anime is more or less never ending now.

Jagos

01-11-2013, 07:20 PM

*sigh*

That's my problem. I would try to collect a few but now I don't even know where to start. I might end up getting a DS just to play one of the games and now I have to decide on which ones I like.

Nikose Tyris

01-11-2013, 07:44 PM

I've finished all my pokedexes, except Gen 5 so far. I'm gunning for that Shining Charm reward, on top of my diploma.

Flarecobra

01-11-2013, 07:47 PM

I might end up getting a DS just to play one of the games and now I have to decide on which ones I like.

That sounds like a good way to start.

Flarecobra

02-12-2013, 09:27 AM

We got a new Eeveelution! (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/New_Pok%C3%A9mon_Ninfia_revealed_in_CoroCoro)

Type and abilities currentally unknown.

Kyanbu The Legend

02-12-2013, 10:34 AM

Probably ground or flying type from the looks of it. Could even be another Normal Type.

Menarker

02-12-2013, 12:32 PM

I personally guess flying too. It kinda looks a little like Skyla to me even down to the hair ribbon the gym leader wears and compatible color scheme. Those streamers would also be perfect for a flying type. Just trying to think if any parts of its name reveals anything. For a brief moment, I thought that it might be related to Nimbus although the name is Ninfia and not Nimfia... Although I'm thinking english derived word parts when I clearly need to think Japanese.

The closest a similar naming scheme in the eevee evolution was Leafeon and Glaceon, which bulbapedia dereived the Japanese word to be Leafia and Glacia respectively. Thus if the pattern is followed, then -ia- is the suffix and we need to figure out what the Ninf portion means...

At least it would be a neat way to get a pure flying type that isn't a legendary.

EDIT: Another forum brought up support for the flying type by noting it has the lightest weight amongst all the Eevee evolutions.

Azisien

02-12-2013, 12:56 PM

Welp, I just upgraded to a 3DS XL (from DS Lite). In part because of this game. Also for some of the sweet localizations that North America is getting. And of course, Mario Kart, and Super Smash 3DS.

But more on Pokemon: boy, I'm sure glad they're finally upgrading to Pokemon Stadium levels of fidelity. The Pokemon formula is getting pretty damn bland. Conquest was such a neat - if too simple - addition to the series. I hope to see some interesting innovations now that they've got nice hardware, and hopefully learned something from their spin-off games.

Who am I kidding, it'll just be like every other damn Pokemon entry, with Pokemon Stadium graphics.

Kyanbu The Legend

02-12-2013, 01:33 PM

Someone also said it could be the Stage 2 evolution for Eevee.

Now that I think about it. it is the only eeveelution to not have "eon" at the end of it's name.

Menarker

02-12-2013, 01:42 PM

The revealed name is in Japanese, which doesn't use the Eon Suffix. It is to be expected that the English name will come later.

As I mentioned earlier, the Japanese naming scheme is similar to how they did it with Glaceon (Japanese is Glacia) and Leafeon (Japanese is Leafia). So we might expect to see something like Ninfeon, Nympheon or so.

There has been quite a few rumors type wise. A close look at the picture shows that Ninfeon has the most prominent "cute fangs", so some people figured poison types. Some figured the "soul-less eyes" made it seem like a cutesy ghost type". Some people figured that the constant attempt to hide its type publicly is reason to believe that we're getting a new "Light type" to run counterpart with Dark type. (And that several previous pokemon might have their types altered to fit this new type)

Still feel that Flying type has the most support though, given the design and the weight (Lightest of all eevee evolution) of the pokemon (flying types in fantasy genre tend to be lightweight)

Locke cole

02-12-2013, 01:48 PM

None of the other Eeveelutions have that theme naming in Japanese, and I'm pretty sure Ninfia is its Japanese name only.

Menarker

02-12-2013, 01:50 PM

Please consult bulbapedia for Glaceon and Leafeon (look at bottom for naming themes in various language). I already referenced the pattern in theme naming where those two were Glacia and Leafia in Japanese.

I'm kinda excited by this news though since this means they are making changes to pokemon from previous generations instead of only making new pokemon without touching on the older ones.

Kyanbu The Legend

02-12-2013, 01:52 PM

Ah I didn't know that, that changes that theory.

My mistake.

Locke cole

02-12-2013, 01:59 PM

To be fair, I couldn't see your post when I was making mine. Ninja-ing and all that.

Flarecobra

02-14-2013, 11:59 AM

We have an english name for it: Sylveon

Tev

02-14-2013, 12:02 PM

We have an english name for it: SylveonReminds me of Sylvan. Assuming that this isn't some form of elf-Eevee and instead is more based on Sylphs and air sprites, maybe we'll finally get a flying type eeveelution.

BloodyMage

02-14-2013, 09:00 PM

If it's related to the French, sylve for forest, it may be something woodland related.

I'm just gonna throw this out there and say it's a bug type. The big wide eyes are very insecticidal and the colours and ribbons seem to suggest a more typically pretty pokemon, which Ghost aren't. It could be flying but given the name, I'd go with bug over flying. While flying pokemon are found in forests they're found in most grass whereas bug pokemon are generally only found in woodlands or the surrounding grass areas, with a few exceptions.

Flarecobra

04-06-2013, 10:48 AM

New pokemon alert?

http://sadpanda.us/images/1509015-F41XYPG.png

RobinStarwing

04-06-2013, 10:49 AM

New pokemon alert?

http://sadpanda.us/images/1509015-F41XYPG.png

Either that or Mewtwo is getting a Forme.

Flarecobra

04-06-2013, 12:14 PM

Either way... it's something that raises the eyebrow.

POS Industries

04-06-2013, 12:18 PM

Is that a non-cyborg Genesect?

Flarecobra

04-06-2013, 12:54 PM

Well, pictured is a shiny Genesect...

Melfice

04-06-2013, 01:02 PM

Either that or Mewtwo is getting a Forme.

Oh, gods.
Mewthree.

Mewthree is real.

Flarecobra

04-06-2013, 09:00 PM

Well, it is confirmed that it DOES have a connection to Mewtwo. (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mysterious_new_Pok%C3%A9mon_announced_on_Pok%C3%A9 mon_Smash!)

POS Industries

04-07-2013, 12:55 PM

Well, pictured is a shiny Genesect...
Oh, is that all it is? Lame.

Flarecobra

04-13-2013, 01:08 PM

Ok, so according to CoroCoro, what was revealed is a new forme for Mewtwo. (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/CoroCoro_reveals_last_week%27s_unveiled_Pok%C3%A9m on_to_be_Forme_of_Mewtwo)

Locke cole

04-13-2013, 01:09 PM

I hope they call it MewZero, just to tick people off.

Kyanbu The Legend

04-13-2013, 01:11 PM

Sounds like it's a Speed Form of some kind.

Which makes Mewtwo even more OP then he was before.

Locke cole

04-13-2013, 01:15 PM

What in?

But he's already faster than damn near everything.

Kyanbu The Legend

04-13-2013, 01:16 PM

What in?

But he's already faster than damn near everything.

And if this really is a Speed Form then he's even more faster then himself in base form now.

Flarecobra

04-13-2013, 01:45 PM

Oh it gets better.

http://sadpanda.us/images/1531495-2P857C5.png

I think you get two different forms.

Menarker

04-18-2013, 02:12 AM

Hmmm, this is just a pointless guess, but the Y version of the new form seems to be a speed type given its coloration on its foot while the X version is probably physical attack (if so, there'll probably be more physical psychic attacks this gen) due to purple coloration on hands.

Both have a bit of coloration on heels and tip of "head-tail" so those hardly count...

Flarecobra

04-18-2013, 10:01 AM

Both also have purple coloring on their hands.

BloodyMage

04-21-2013, 08:44 PM

Apparently there's now a fairy type? Not sure how to feel about it...

http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=200831

Flarecobra

04-21-2013, 08:48 PM

My sources have not said anything about that...

Kyanbu The Legend

04-21-2013, 10:43 PM

Apprantly I'm prema banned from gonintendo... even though I've never made an account there...

BloodyMage

04-22-2013, 09:22 AM

It's still unconfirmed at this point apparently but the rumour comes from a fairly reliable source apparently.

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1896526/pokemon_x_y_could_introduce_new_fairy_type.html

Menarker

04-22-2013, 11:00 AM

Well, it would give the generation mascot a rivalry of sort, given that one is rumored to be Dark/Flying (and it does look like it) and the other is rumored to be Fairy/Light type. And the rumor continues that the two types are mutually super effective against each other in manner similar to how bug type moves and poison type moves used to be super effective against each other in generation 1.

Flarecobra

05-11-2013, 05:26 PM

New pokemon have been revealed! (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/June_2013_CoroCoro_leaks)

Huh, they actually got some good character designs this time. (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/45/CoroCoro_June_2013_image_2.jpg)

akaSM

05-11-2013, 08:31 PM

I dunno, the female trainer's design in B/W2 grew up on me over time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykl__9_ayWo)

PCD

05-11-2013, 09:24 PM

Woah hey, check out that middle bit on the right-hand page.

Looks like they're finally letting you customize your trainer, to change their race! (http://i.imgur.com/zPyX1fl.jpg)

Kyanbu The Legend

05-11-2013, 10:07 PM

Woah hey, check out that middle bit on the right-hand page.

Looks like they're finally letting you customize your trainer, to change their race! (http://i.imgur.com/zPyX1fl.jpg)

Finally! I've been waiting 2 gens for them to do that. Alternate costumes would be nice too but that depends on if there's enough space on the gamecards for it.

Aldurin

05-11-2013, 10:41 PM

When do we get hats? I will not be happy until my Blaziken can battle while adorned with a Towering Pillar of Hats and a Deus Specs. I need this.

Flarecobra

05-14-2013, 11:23 AM

Apperentally as you play, you get different outfits and accessories to wear. (http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/characters/) Also, there are 5 new pokemon leaked as well.

http://sadpanda.us/images/1598603-7CPVLJU.pnghttp://sadpanda.us/images/1598607-F47QDRU.png

Menarker

05-14-2013, 12:38 PM

Ah, I saw that left half of the image a while back on the internet, like over a month ago. I thought it was dismissed as a clever hoax. (Although I had liked the design of the bird)

PCD

05-14-2013, 04:38 PM

Finally! I've been waiting 2 gens for them to do that. Alternate costumes would be nice too but that depends on if there's enough space on the gamecards for it.

I've heard there will be options for outfit changes later in the game. They're finally adding things people have been asking for for years.

akaSM

05-14-2013, 05:19 PM

Nice, I like both trainer designs but, I'm not too fond of the hats wearing sunglasses thing, it's just silly.

I hope my hat can wear a hat.

PCD

05-16-2013, 02:05 AM

Looks like the new game (http://i40.tinypic.com/5l2lq1.jpg) will be set in PokeFrance (http://i42.tinypic.com/2v2ty81.jpg).

Arcanum

05-16-2013, 09:34 AM

Is it just me, or is that a tower (strikingly similar to one of Eiffel variety too) in the middle of the circular city of Not-Paris?

Loyal

05-16-2013, 02:38 PM

At least now we know where Fantina came from. Wonder if she'll make a cameo.

greed

05-18-2013, 02:15 AM

At least now we know where Fantina came from. Wonder if she'll make a cameo.
Fantina was American in the Japanese version, so if she was gonna show up anywhere it'd be in Unova. Still a bit sad we didn't see Surge references either.

I'm wondering if we'll get a Mr Mime evo.

Flarecobra

06-11-2013, 10:52 AM

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Look, the faeries are here.

Locke cole

06-11-2013, 12:09 PM

So, does this mean that Jigglypuff, Gardevoir, and Marill are now dual-types, like how Magnemite gained Steel type in Gen 2?

Flarecobra

06-11-2013, 02:21 PM

Correct.

Tev

06-11-2013, 02:25 PM

This is making it harder and harder for me to not buy a 3DS.....

Flarecobra

06-11-2013, 02:31 PM

I hear ya. My 7-year-old DS may now require upgrading.

Tev

06-11-2013, 02:34 PM

What bugs me is that they are practically the same thing. I don't want to have to buy a 3DS when I have a perfectly fine DS........but at this rate I'm going to have to.

Menarker

06-11-2013, 03:34 PM

While the exact nature of the fairy type doesn't seem to have been revealed yet regarding its interactions to the other types, there is one hint...

Based on the trailer, Gardevoir, now Psychic/Fairy was seen using Fairy Wind (Presumably a fairy move) on the Dark/Dragon Hydreigon and hitting for super effective damage.

So we can presume that fairy type is either super effective against Dark or Dragon, and not resisted by the other.
I personally think that fairy being super effective against dark is more likely, although given that the trailer also showed the fairy Slypheon attacking Haxorus with Moonburst, a confirmed fairy move, it's also possible that it's super effective against dragons as a meta-game remedy. (Although the scene between those two were cut before it could say "super effective" or not.)

06-11-2013, 03:38 PM

Iwata confirmed during the Direct (and it's since been added to the site (http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/whats_new/fairy_type/)) that Fairy is effective vs Dragons. Other strengths and weaknesses are to be confirmed.

Flarecobra

06-11-2013, 04:34 PM

It's effective agenst ice too.

Also, a new trailer has appeared. (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/More_Pok%C3%A9mon_shown_in_second_E3_trailer)

I note the 1-vs-4 battle there.

Menarker

06-11-2013, 05:05 PM

You're kidding me. Fairy is super effective against Ice too?

So much for hoping that Ice would get something they could defend against other than their own type.

Flarecobra

06-14-2013, 10:37 AM

And if this is any indication... they may be weak to poison. (https://www.facebook.com/Bulbagarden/posts/10151621465574668) And maybe Fighting.

And more info! (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Four_new_Pok%C3%A9mon_revealed_in_July_CoroCoro)

And even more info, this time about a gym leader, and possible rivals! (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/English_names_of_four_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_NPCs_reveal ed)

Bard The 5th LW

06-14-2013, 10:06 PM

I can envision them being weak to Steel what with the traditional fair folk weakness to 'Cold Iron' in mythology.

Flarecobra

07-04-2013, 10:37 AM

New pokemon alert.

http://sadpanda.us/images/1712983-K9IUVMI.png

Apperentally it's a Steel/Ghost type.

Menarker

07-07-2013, 10:03 PM

Name is Honedge in English (Hone Edge)

Steel/Ghost is quite an awesome typing defense wise. Resist or immune to a whole bunch of types with both typings helping cover the other's weakpoint. Only weakness is Fire and Ground while Water/Electric/Dark/Ghost are all neutral. Details about its relation to Fairy type is still unknown.

Offensively, it's weird, and a bit lacking in coverage with both typings only effective against two others. (Rock/Ice for the Steel portion and Ghost/Psychic for the Ghost portion). Whether Fairy is weak to one of those types also remains to be seen.

Given that it is a living sword, we can assume that it'll have Sword Dance and thus have a high attack stat.

Still more factors will eventually reveal itself like potential abilities. (Ghosts often get levitate, which would remove yet another of its weakpoint)

Kyanbu The Legend

07-08-2013, 01:08 AM

A sword ghost pokemon. I've never been fond of the really strange looking mons, but this one brings a smile to my face. Hope it at least ends up being a rather decent mon.

Menarker

07-11-2013, 07:09 AM

New information posted on Serebii (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml). Quoting here for all your benefits

We're currently in the process of translating, with thanks to my good friend StreetsAhead, so keep checking back. Xerneas is Fairy-type, Yveltal is Dark/Flying. Xerneas has an ability called Fairy Aura while Yveltal has one called Dark Aura. Fairy Aura powers up Fairy-type moves while Dark Aura powers up Dark-type moves. Xerneas has a special move called Geo Control and Yveltal one called Death Wing
Pancham's evolution is called Goronda (????). It is the Aggressive Pok�mon, is 2.1m tall, weighs 136kg, and has the ability Iron Fist. It is Fighting/Dark-type. It has the move Hammer Arm and a new method of evolution
The Squids are called Maika (?????), the Rotation Pok�mon is 0.4m tall weighing 3.5kg, and its evolution Karamanero (?????) the Reversal Pok�mon, is 1.5m tall and 47kg, and both are Dark/Psychic-type Pok�mon. Maika has a move called Turn Over which reverses stat changes. It's a Dark-type move. Karamanero has the move Hypnosis. They both have either Suction Cups or Contrary.
The pink bird is called Shushup (??????) and is Fairy-type. It is the Perfume Pok�mon, is 0.2m tall and 0.5kg in weight and has the ability of Healer. It knows the move AromaTherapy. It is exclusive to Pok�mon Y
The puff ball is called Peroppafu (?????) and is also a Fairy-type. Its ability is a new one called Sweet Veil which prevents your allies from falling asleep. It's the Cotton Candy Pok�mon, is 0.4m/3.5kg and has the new move Drain Kiss. It is exclusive to Pok�mon X
Honedge has the ability of No Guard
Clauncher is exclusive to Pok�mon X while Skrelp is exclusive to Pok�mon Y
There's a new Gym leader, with the robot arms, called Shitoron (????) while the other Gym Leader is called Zakuro (???). Zakuro is said to be good at sports
The professor is called Purataanu (????? possibly romanised into Platane). He will occasionally battle you.
The evil team is called Team Flair/Flare (????). Their purpose is solely to make money
The PSS has various new features. First is the HoloCaster, which gives the latest news on the Pok�mon Global Link, without needing access. It has a Happy Sign which lets you see feelings/actions of friends. There are special O Powers which work akin to Pass Powers which you can use and receive from other players. Miracle Trade allows for an "exciting trade" with someone from around the world. It also features connectivity with the Global Trade Station

Locke cole

07-11-2013, 07:15 AM

A move that reverses stat changes. This is my jam!

akaSM

07-11-2013, 03:41 PM

The evil team is called Team Flair/Flare (????). Their purpose is solely to make money kill aka BURN EVERYTHING

Makes sense.

Flarecobra

07-11-2013, 06:03 PM

http://sadpanda.us/images/1728761-VXYPSGS.png

So Silph co. finally show their true intentions.

And if you excuse me, I must gather lawyers.

EDIT: Screw it. Personal revenge sounds better.

Flarecobra

07-31-2013, 11:27 AM

New pokemon alert.

http://sadpanda.us/images/1765138-62NS8PD.png

Orootto.

greed

08-02-2013, 05:13 AM

Ah pics of the ghost tree are out also goddamn maybe it's just cause I reckon women in suits look utterly badass but the new Team's design fucking kills it.

Hoping the change appearance thing lets you have a Team Flare (the translation of their Japanese name apparently so cool for you Flare) disguise for your character.

Revising Ocelot

08-02-2013, 10:46 AM

I haven't seen many evil gingers (prefixing 'evil' before ginger is redundant) lately outside of mirror reflections. It's about time.

Flarecobra

08-02-2013, 12:55 PM

I haven't seen many evil gingers (prefixing 'evil' before ginger is redundant) lately outside of mirror reflections. It's about time.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/6a818123ceb7998f8a178c9527d442e8/tumblr_mp2w7kBZE41s8xctuo1_500.gif

*Is a redhead herself after all*

Menarker

08-02-2013, 01:01 PM

I haven't seen many evil gingers (prefixing 'evil' before ginger is redundant) lately outside of mirror reflections. It's about time.

What, Silver (The Red headed rival from Gold/Silver) wasn't evil enough for you?

Revising Ocelot

08-02-2013, 01:07 PM

The battery died on my Silver cartridge about 6 years ago and I've never played a Pokemon game since out of spite. I am evil, after all.

Kyanbu The Legend

08-02-2013, 08:10 PM

Team Flare's got some serious flare going on. Damn those are some sharp suits!

greed

08-04-2013, 04:33 AM

http://24.media.tumblr.com/6a818123ceb7998f8a178c9527d442e8/tumblr_mp2w7kBZE41s8xctuo1_500.gif

*Is a redhead herself after all*

That gif is hypnotic the eyes. Also Flare don't worry bout RO his views on such things are coloured by growing up in England.

Also the only issue with those Team Flare outfits is I keep seeing that triangular belt as panties.

Flarecobra

08-04-2013, 12:49 PM

Yeah, but I know Brits who are cool with redheads too.

greed

08-04-2013, 07:18 PM

Yeah, but I know Brits who are cool with redheads too.

Those are the "good ones":smug: we have to be understanding of growing up in such a backward and deprived nation.

Menarker

08-08-2013, 11:43 AM

New update makes me go "...what?"
(http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)Mega Evolutions? Evolutions for pokemon that already have two stages of evolutions? Crazy!

Flarecobra

08-08-2013, 11:52 AM

http://sadpanda.us/images/1782415-URFWWZ9.jpg

Meet Dedenne, Horubi, and Me'ekuru.

And Gym Leader Koruni.

http://sadpanda.us/images/1782419-P3HW6SR.jpg

Ryong

08-08-2013, 01:55 PM

MegaEvolutions?
Seriously?
I had lost faith in pok�mon with black and white and thought it wouldn't get worse, but come on, ripping off from a franchise that ripped you off? That's just lazy.

Bells

08-08-2013, 03:07 PM

New update makes me go "...what?"
(http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)Mega Evolutions? Evolutions for pokemon that already have two stages of evolutions? Crazy!

bx3AoqinpX4

akaSM

08-08-2013, 03:32 PM

Well, this is interesting...they didn't use what they already had for "same pok�mon, different shape" (regional differences and formes). If these "Mega" forms are stronger...well, Blaziken was already OP as hell, and Mewtwo is a pretty strong legendary...

Kyanbu The Legend

08-08-2013, 03:47 PM

Wow Pok�mon Jumped the shark (again if you count Gen4). I never thought I'd see the day. The whole concept of Mega Evolution seems super silly and unnecessary these could have just simply been special condition evolution like normal to explain why they've never evolved until now.

Wow this hurt my interest in the game a lot. I actually can't bring my self to care much about it. What a shame, cause I really loved Gen5 and what it tried to do from a story stand point. Question the concept of Pok�mon Battles.

Oh well, maybe the next bit of news will be good. And MegaBlaziken is kind of cool I guess.

EDIT: I was wrong about digimon.

Flarecobra

08-08-2013, 03:51 PM

Google says otherwise there Kyanbu.

Pok�mon: February 27th 1996.

the Virtual Pet-style "Digital Monsters": June 26th 1997.

Kyanbu The Legend

08-08-2013, 04:00 PM

Yeah, I was wrong about that. Pok�mon beat it out the door by 1 year.

Token

08-08-2013, 04:02 PM

They're both SMT knockoffs anyway, who legitimately gives a fuck.

Kyanbu The Legend

08-08-2013, 04:08 PM

They're both SMT knockoffs anyway, who legitimately gives a fuck.

And lighter and softer too. Well Pok�mon is anyway. Digimon likes to get dark and sometimes depressing from time to time.

Anyway, I wonder how broken Megamewtwo is going to be.

Ryong

08-08-2013, 05:24 PM

They're both SMT knockoffs anyway, who legitimately gives a fuck.

Where does DemiKids fit into, then?

Locke cole

08-09-2013, 12:53 AM

We know pretty much nothing about the mechanics here. It may be that they're expanding on the concept of mid-battle transformations, such as can be seen with Cherrim and Darmanitan. Maybe they'll transform under certain circumstances, or while holding certain items.

The names are kinda uninspired, though.

As for "Mega" forms ripping off Digimon, I doubt it. "Mega evolution" is the name being used in this Japanese article, and in Digimon, there never was a stage called "mega" in Japanese. Ultimate was called "Perfect", and Mega was "Ultimate".

Mawile's an odd choice, too. I wonder how many species get this. Do I even dare hope for a Mega Blastoise?

Menarker

08-09-2013, 01:24 AM

More clarifying update!

Following yesterdays reveal of the new Pok�mon, and the Mega Evolutions, some clear images have surfaced which showcase some of these Pok�mon in battle. It also provides a few further bits of information. First, Pok�mon can only Mega Evolve when they are holding a Mega Stone. It's not yet known whether the Mega Stone is one specific item, or a separate one such as the Blazikenite that the event Torchic holds. The Blazikenite is not found within normal gameplay. It also confirms that Mega Evolutions are temporary in battle.
It confirms that not all Pok�mon will have Mega Evolutions. The Master Tower has a connection to Mega Evolutions
It also confirms stat increases, stating that MegaLucario's Attack is higher. MegaAbsol has increased Attack & Speed. Finally, it also confirms that Super Training will increase Pok�mon's "Kiso" Points. The translation of it indicates that this may be what we call EVs
05:33: Next month's CoroCoro to feature new Pok�mon, new Mega Evolutions and type chart featuring the Fairy-type

That fairy typing chart thing was what I was hoping to see THIS month in the first place. But still good to have a set date.

greed

08-09-2013, 06:10 AM

Look whatever else can be said about mega evolution. Ampharos gets one and that makes them great in my book.

Ryong

08-09-2013, 07:59 AM

As for "Mega" forms ripping off Digimon, I doubt it. "Mega evolution" is the name being used in this Japanese article, and in Digimon, there never was a stage called "mega" in Japanese. Ultimate was called "Perfect", and Mega was "Ultimate".

It's not about the naming. It's about an evolution that isn't actually an evolution, triggered by using a specific http://i.imgur.com/jSRnxp7.png.

Bells

08-09-2013, 09:56 AM

Give everybody one more form... well, that's a way to make new pokemon without making new pokemon.

Also, they all have Floaty mullets now? t'hell...

Locke cole

08-09-2013, 10:44 AM

It's not about the naming. It's about an evolution that isn't actually an evolution, triggered by using a specific http://i.imgur.com/jSRnxp7.png.

Kinda like Shaymin? And to a lesser extent: Cherrim, Darmanitan, Meloetta, Kyurem, and Keldeo?

Ryong

08-09-2013, 11:07 AM

Kinda like Shaymin and Keldeo?

I didn't know about Keldeo and I was fine with Shaymin because Shaymin is a goddamn legendary that's nigh-impossible to get - isn't it like, event only? - as far as I know. Same goes for Meloetta. Kyurem's fusion thing is also dumb.

But now, with these mega evolutions? Remember how dumb it was when Rhydon, Magneton, Magmar, Electabuzz and Porygon2 got new tradevolutions? This is at least as bad as that.

Let me be clear on this: I consider some parts of Diamond/Pearl/Platinum to be the start of Pok�mon's jumping the shark moment.

This? This is a midair loop.

Locke cole

08-09-2013, 11:21 AM

I remember exactly how dumb those new evolutions were.

But I get the feeling the amount you have in mind is larger than what I'm thinking.

Honestly, I just can't take jumping the shark arguments seriously anymore. By my count, Pokemon has jumped the shark roughly once a generation since Crystal, if I were to belove what I hear each time a new generation starts looming over the horizon.

Shyria Dracnoir

08-10-2013, 02:22 PM

Mega Kangaskhan Announced (http://www.jefusion.com/2013/08/mega-kangaskhan-announced-for-pokemon-xy.html)

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc230/Shyria_Dracnoir/megakangaskhan_zps41269d01.jpg

Its special move allows it to attack twice per turn.

Flarecobra

08-10-2013, 04:18 PM

Finally the baby gets to kick some butt.

Locke cole

08-10-2013, 11:52 PM

...Black is right and up is brown!

Flarecobra

08-17-2013, 11:27 PM

Have some info. (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_X_and_Y_demo_unveils_title_screen,_va rious_game_elements)

Aldurin

08-17-2013, 11:55 PM

Running is now the default; holding the B button allows the player to walk.

This is bullshit! They just ruined the whole franchise!

Arcanum

08-18-2013, 12:37 AM

Fennekin has the moves Psybeam, Fire Spin, Tail Whip and Flame Charge

Oooo could we being seeing a Fire/Psychic starter?

Flarecobra

09-04-2013, 11:10 AM

http://25.media.tumblr.com/80bf36e0fab053b406f1a93cbf7c2b46/tumblr_mslz54QKi91s657xco1_400.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/fab00b4cf47c3ef2d08581e3d206454e/tumblr_mslz54QKi91s657xco2_400.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/c651b36c90bb6a1baa8ec023eb09b11b/tumblr_mslz54QKi91s657xco3_400.jpg

And the original starters now have mega-evolutions.

Dat Blastoise.

Also, new pokemon alert.

http://media.tumblr.com/e70ed48e69f67b32908e6b64720d0738/tumblr_inline_mslxuadFha1qz4rgp.jpg

Looks like an alpaca/sheepdog combo

EDIT: ... You get 2 starters in this one, one of the new ones... and one of the Kanto ones.

...so much girlwood right now.

Kyanbu The Legend

09-04-2013, 01:26 PM

ok mega charzard is awesome in every way conceivable. I forgive you for the mega evolutions now gamefreak.

Loyal

09-04-2013, 01:34 PM

Looks like an fluffier Absol.

Locke cole

09-04-2013, 01:43 PM

MEGA BLASTOISE MEGA BLASTOISE MEGA BLASTOISE MEGA BLASTOISE

Ryong

09-04-2013, 05:33 PM

Charizard, what happened to your arms!?

Locke cole

09-04-2013, 07:08 PM

They're bonus wings, now.

So, apparently, Mega Venusaur has Thick Fat (great for a Grass type, actually), Mega Charizard has Drought (Sunnybeamig would work wonders), and Mega Blastoise has something called Mega Launcher.

Whatever that is.

phil_

09-04-2013, 09:53 PM

MEGA BLASTOISE MEGA BLASTOISE MEGA BLASTOISE MEGA BLASTOISEMEGA BLASTOISE MEGA BLASTOISE MEGA BLASTOISE MEGA BLASTOISE I DON'T EVEN BUY VIDEOS BUT MEGA BLASTOISE.

Flarecobra

09-04-2013, 10:24 PM

Mega Blastoise has something called Mega Launcher.

Whatever that is.

According to this... (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mega_Launcher_(Ability))

"Mega Launcher boosts the power of pulse moves."

Meaning it boosts water pulse and dark pulse so far.

Locke cole

09-04-2013, 11:35 PM

They forgot Dragon Pulse and Healing Pulse.

Not that Blastoise learns those, but w/e.

RobinStarwing

09-05-2013, 10:30 AM

Mega-Blastoise or...

Oh screw it I am getting Charmander and have Mega Charizard and Mega Blaziken...the broken game mechanics will be off the chart!

Menarker

09-05-2013, 10:44 AM

Too bad you can only have one Mega-pokemon on any given team at a time. So your Mega Charizard and Maga Blaziken tag-team fantasy was shattered before it started.

phil_

09-05-2013, 11:20 AM

Trade with some kid whose poke man is holding a mega stone. Tell him it'll let Strength work on the truck or whatever. Bam! Two mega stones, two mega poke mans.

Flarecobra

09-05-2013, 01:09 PM

Too bad you can only have one Mega-pokemon on any given team at a time. So your Mega Charizard and Maga Blaziken tag-team fantasy was shattered before it started.

Where does it say that? I've never seen any such rule in place...

Menarker

09-05-2013, 02:12 PM

http://www.serebii.net/xy/megaevolutions.shtml

A brand new feature of the Pok�mon X & Y games are Mega Evolutions. These are special features of Pok�mon, different to evolutions and forms, that have your Pok�mon Mega Evolve in battle into these appearances. Their abilities, stats and sometimes even types are different. To get a Pok�mon to Mega Evolve, they need to be holding a special Mega Stone item unique to their species, as well as receiving the Mega Ring and the Key Stone. To get your Pok�mon to Mega Evolve, you can select a button when picking the move and then select a move. The Pok�mon will both evolve and attack in that turn. You may only have one Mega Evolution in a battle.

Bolded and underlined for emphasis. (And I mean so as an aid, since it is an obscure sort of rule at this time)

That said, I'm wondering about the priority of the transformation sequence. Whether it uses the speed of the user's speed stat for both parts (transformation and attack), boosted speed (similar to that of item use) for both parts, or (my personal guess) is that transformation has fixed higher priority, but the pokemon attack after is based on the user's speed.

The annoying part of the transformation thing thus far is that the attack chosen after transformation is automatically chosen for you.
The link to this video (which I moved to the appropriate time) will show Mewtwo activating his item in the move select window, trigger his activation and then attacking right away without getting the chance to choose his move. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g4c7n6WUO8&feature=player_embedded#t=484)

Correction. Turns out after selecting the transformation orb, its image changes a bit to depict that it'll trigger and the player chooses to move to use afterwards. This is noted to me due to this video which had better image quality and due to the fact that this video has the transformed Mewtwo use Shadow Ball as opposed to Psystrike in the other video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=P83GIhzxKq0#t=492)

As for whether transformation has higher priority is difficult to determine in that movie since it's Mewtwo facing Crocbat, both species having 130 speed as their default base stat, and thus we cannot extrapolate on whether or not transforming has special priority.

Locke cole

09-05-2013, 02:33 PM

I hope Mega Lainchet works on other moves, like Hydro Pump. Because it sounds like small potatoes compared to Drought and Thick Fat.

Flarecobra

09-05-2013, 02:53 PM

I doubt it, given the wording.

Menarker

09-05-2013, 02:54 PM

I hope Mega Lainchet works on other moves, like Hydro Pump. Because it sounds like small potatoes compared to Drought and Thick Fat.

Agreed. Especially on a single type water pokemon (which is incredibly plentiful along with many many dual-water types), Mega-Launcher really needs to stand out in order for Mega-Blastoise to be considered worth playing over other water pokemon. Or other Megas who gains stuff like type changes, or improved stats which would work on all moves that uses those stats.

Personally, I'm holding out for Mega Swampert! I mean, we already have a mega-starter from that generation.

akaSM

09-05-2013, 03:51 PM

Personally, I'm holding out for Mega Swampert! I mean, we already have a mega-starter from that generation.

Mega Mudkipz. 'Cause u liek.

Menarker

09-05-2013, 03:56 PM

You know... that's a good question. Are those items only usable on the fully evolved forms? Or can the pokemon of all stages use their respective items?

And yeah, Mega Mudkipz would be boss. ^^

Flarecobra

09-05-2013, 04:05 PM

http://sadpanda.us/images/1829920-BI3WV9N.png

I think this means only the fully evolved forms.

Menarker

09-05-2013, 04:11 PM

Sounds about right.

*Shrug* I imagine it's much easier to just make it apply to fully evolved, than to try to make a mega version of every single stage of pre-evolutions.

Guess Mega Mudkipz is the stuff of fan-art. =3

Arcanum

09-05-2013, 06:43 PM

Warp digivolution evolution isn't until Gen 7.

greed

09-06-2013, 04:32 AM

Come on MegaTorterra.

Flarecobra

09-06-2013, 03:16 PM

Warp digivolution evolution isn't until Gen 7.

Well, the graphics are going to be INCREDABLE.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/764239560cbd36df3a9fd6990519f322/tumblr_ms43jvATSJ1qen9vmo1_500.png

Locke cole

09-06-2013, 06:58 PM

Warp Evolution is having a level 1 Porygon-Z.

Menarker

09-11-2013, 05:49 AM

NEW INFO! (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)

The next batch of CoroCoro information has been posted to Japanese forums and this batch showcases more information on the upcoming games Pok�mon X & Y. We have the cover that showcases a new Mega Evolution of Mewtwo as well as Mega Garchomp in the bottom right
Edit @ 10;36:The user with the same ID also posted that the starter evolutions are Gerogashira, Teerunaa, Hariboogu. They're all single typed and Teerunaa, the evolution of Fennekin, stands up. He also lists two fossil Pok�mon, Chigorasu which is Rock/Dragon and Amarusu which is Rock/Ice. There is a white dog called Torimian which is Normal-type and a Psychic-type cat called Nyaonikusu which has male and female appearances. It also states that Mewtwo is version exclusive. He also listed the Fairy-type chart. According to this, Fairy is Super Effective on Fighting, Dark and Dragon and not effective on Fire, Poison or Steel. It also states that it is weak to Poison and Steel while resists Fighting, Dark and Bug. It is immune to Dragon.
10:46: This Mega Mewtwo X is Psychic/Fighting-type and has the ability Steadfast. Mega Garchomp's ability is Sand Force.
10:49: Chigorasu hasa new ability 'Hard Jaw' that increases attack power. Amarusu has Freeze Skin is the Ice version of Normalize. Torimian has Fur Coat which reduces physical damage and apparently with "trimming" you can change its appearance. Nyaonikusu has Keen Eye or Infiltrator
10:53: Change your hair and clothes at a Boutique and Salon, reflected in the graphics, with a famous actress called Karune. Team Flare has five scientists, Kuseroshiki, Momiji, Bara, Akebi, Corea
10:59: Gerogashira knows Jump, Chespin's evo knows Mud Shot and Fennekin's evo knows Psycho Cut and has a twig in its tail
11:06: According to the leaker, Steel has lost its resistance to Dark and Ghost. Like the rest of this information this is unconfirmed until we get a picture.
11:14: Nyaonikusu's movepool varies by gender. The male is more of a supporter while the female is more of an attacker
11:18: Hard Jaw increases the power of Biting moves. Freeze Skin turns Normal type moves into Ice-type moves and raises their power
11:42: Female Nyaonikusu knows Extrasensory. Male knows Miracle Eye. Male is on the left, Female is on the right in the third picture below
10:45: In addition to this, some anime details were shown. Mega Blaziken was shown on the new anime poster, alongside Clemont and a new female. Like the above, this isn't 100% confirmed but comes from the same person as the cover, so don't count it as 100% confirmed yet

Quite a few new info. A few worth noting early on.
1: Fairy types match-up! Awesome!
2: Steel type defensively nerfed!? (Loss of resistance to Dark/Ghost?) This will need to be followed up and confirmed! Although they did get buffed both offensively and defensively regarding fairies.
3: Fenniken likely being a fire/psychic with emphasis on physical moves kinda like Gallade. So the move Glow Punch that it learns is likely a new psychic physical move.
4: Some new pokemon and abilities.

Flarecobra

09-11-2013, 10:18 AM

I got pictures. (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/October_%2713_CoroCoro_unveils_new_%27XY%27_inform ation)

Menarker

09-13-2013, 12:27 PM

A few more bits of information is out on Serebii. The bit I find most interesting is...

"Some more changes regarding types have been announced; Ghost types are no longer affected by moves that prevent fleeing such as Mean Look. Grass Pok�mon can't be seeded or affected by moves such as SleepPowder or Stun Spore. Electric types can no longer be Paralysed"

Loyal

09-13-2013, 01:22 PM

I thought Grass types were already immune to grass-type ailments in general.

Flarecobra

09-13-2013, 02:43 PM

No, just Leech seed.

Locke cole

09-13-2013, 07:22 PM

Stealth Brelloom nerf.

Flarecobra

09-25-2013, 11:08 AM

And now we got an evolved form of Honedge....

Ladies and Gents... I give you "Doublade. (https://twitter.com/BulbaNewsNOW/status/382885635716943874/photo/1)"

And also, some mechanic changes.

Pok�mon gain experience even when the opposing wild Pok�mon is caught (as stated in another interview). A caught Pok�mon gives the same experience points as a defeated one.

Sky Battles are limited to Flying-type Pok�mon and those with the Levitate Ability (as previously confirmed). Some moves can't be used.
There is an adjustment to the inheritence system of breeding.

Ghost-type Pokemon can freely escape from battle without being influenced by Shadow Tag. (The official website mentioned trapping moves.)

The item Exp. Share will revert to Exp. All as in Generation I, where when one Pok�mon holding this item participates in battle, all other Pok�mon in the team receive experience as well. Unlike in Generation I, the experience is not split but rather received by all Pok�mon. This means that the participating Pokemon receive 100% experience, while non-participating Pok�mon receive 50% experience.

When distributing new moves and abilities, priority was given to new Pok�mon.

The CGI style is different from that of Pok�mon Stadium and Pok�mon Battle Revolution, because those games were supposed to emulate "realism within fantasy". Since the handheld Pok�mon series is supposed to be accessible to everyone, battles were made "cuter".

The standard selection process for Pok�mon to be Mega-Evolvable is based on three points: visual looks, popularity and game balance.

The power-up of Mega-Evolved Pokemon is meant to elevate them to the class of legendary Pok�mon, hence the restriction of only one Pok�mon being allowed to hold a Mega Stone during battles.

The timing to Mega-Evolve is selectable.

Some moves, with focus on special ones, have had their power and accuracy revamped.

Kyanbu The Legend

09-25-2013, 11:35 AM

Sounds fantastic so far. Can't wait to see the balance adjustments made to some of the moves.

akaSM

09-25-2013, 03:50 PM

I'm not even done with SoulSilver, still poking around in Platinum and barely played White 2. And I want the new games D:

Aldurin

09-25-2013, 03:58 PM

The power-up of Mega-Evolved Pokemon is meant to elevate them to the class of legendary Pok�mon, hence the restriction of only one Pok�mon being allowed to hold a Mega Stone during battles.

Mega-Blaziken

:wtf:

Kyanbu The Legend

09-25-2013, 04:10 PM

And Blaziken retains its status as a tier 1 Pokemon. lol

Flarecobra

10-02-2013, 01:56 PM

So for some reason, Charizard is getting a 2ND MEGA FORM. (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:006Charizard-Mega_X.png)

Seriously?

Shyria Dracnoir

10-02-2013, 03:53 PM

Two games for the price of one, baby!

Flarecobra

10-02-2013, 04:26 PM

By the way, apperentally some stores in Canada and Italy broke the street date.

Arcanum

10-02-2013, 05:42 PM

None of the stores near me broke the street date :(

Aldurin

10-02-2013, 06:24 PM

So for some reason, Charizard is getting a 2ND MEGA FORM. (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:006Charizard-Mega_X.png)

Seriously?

And there's my confidence in this generation starting to wane. Unless they're touting two Mega Forms for every mega-compatible pokemon in which case the idea is still unnecessary but acceptable.

Locke cole

10-02-2013, 11:37 PM

It'd be a bit insane if they gave two mega forms to everything. Mewtwo I got, but I'll be a bit weirded out if Blastoise and Venusaur don't at least get equivalents.

Tev

10-03-2013, 07:12 AM

It's labeled as "Mega X." Maybe it is the Mega form you get if you play X and the other form is if you play Y. I wouldn't put it past them to do something silly like that.

Locke cole

10-03-2013, 07:30 AM

That's how it is with Mewtwo.

Menarker

10-05-2013, 10:15 AM

So, there have been lots of leaks due to some of the stores breaking sell-date (something of which Nintendo is pissed with). As a result, several new pics are available to view.

http://imgur.com/a/jiahd

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pok%C3%A9mon-xy-leaks.3489007/page-42#post-4862737

One thing that is definately note-worthy are DUAL-TYPE ATTACKS. Like "Flying Press" which is Fighting type and Flying type at the same time!

Kyanbu The Legend

10-05-2013, 10:28 AM

Seems nintendo missed some of the photos. Also we won't be seeing any new leaks from the guy since nintendo forced him to return the game.

Arcanum

10-05-2013, 12:13 PM

Holy shit the water starter's final form looks awesome. Way better than the other two. And with the revelation that you get one of the Kanto starters relatively early I might pick up the frog as my starter and grab Charmander for my fire type.

Menarker

10-07-2013, 02:02 PM

http://i.imgur.com/5jxFcH3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ys1bdMO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GD9MQ5b.jpg

I want the Goomy line! Goodra is adorable! <3
(Dragon type with the possibility of being part poison. Would have made more sense if it was poison first then Dragon after full evolution, but ah well.)

---------- Post added 10-06-2013 at 12:00 PM ---------- Previous post was 10-05-2013 at 12:09 PM ----------

EDIT: Alas, it's a pure dragon type. What wasted potential.

Here is a pic of "confirmed" pokemon via leakers.

http://i.imgur.com/XsdlNeQ.jpg

Another neat convenient feature is that when viewing your TM case, highlighting any given TM shows your list of pokemon and who can learn it without you having to go through that tedious pressing A several times each.

There are a few other pokemon that has been discovered by leakers since that helper image was created like Mega-Gardevoir.

---------- Post added at 08:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:00 PM ----------

Including a thread that is collecting all of its "found leaked data" into a few adjacent posts.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pok%C3%A9mon-xy-data-collection.3489182/

TOGEPI IS FAIRY! <3 Togekiss is now the ultimate Garchomp counter. Immune to both ground and dragon!

---------- Post added 10-07-2013 at 12:02 PM ---------- Previous post was 10-06-2013 at 08:11 PM ----------

Rumors abound of the list of Megas to come!

http://cdn.idigitaltimes.com/data/images/full/2013/09/09/11558.jpg EDIT: FAAAAAKKKKEEEEE!