So... Nintendon't want no ROMs?

[tacticslion]

I was recently looking at a few (relatively) legit ROM sites that I used to acquire the old games I loved playing before my last NES system went the way of dead forever... and discovered that all the NES and SNES titles they used to have are gone, apparently removed by request from Nintendo.

A quick search seemed to reveal that only the sketchier-looking sites that had you click a download only to go somewhere else to click more stuff had it - and since I didn't click any of the "more stuff", I don't know how legit any of it is.

While ROMs were never the most popular thing with companies, that is... a surprising move, to me, considering it seems so wide-spread and thorough.

Anyone know how far back this goes? I've not emulated things in quite a while, so I was kind of taken aback.

Anyone have any more information on this, or news that I missed or something?

[Flarecobra]

I think that's been a thing most game companies have had for as long as I've known about ROMS...

[tacticslion]

I think that's been a thing most game companies have had for as long as I've known about ROMS...

... but I've never actually seen it happen before.

I mean, there've been ROM sites forever, but I've never seen a game company successfully remove huge swaths of content across the internet, previously.

Which is why, to me, it seems kind of sudden. I mean, a couple of sites that have had large amounts on them for quite some time, "suddenly" (to me)... don't. Which is kind of strange.

I was wondering if there was a specific push from Nintendo at some point that folk were aware of, given that it all seems to be their content specifically.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

They are really trying to make a big push towards the virtual console. Normally that's fine, we still get access to these old games for cheap. But Nintendo has been painfully slow at updating the thing and a lot of the old libraries (hundreds of games) are still missing.

Unless they plan to add 20 to 50 games a week. I think this might have been over kill. Then again the NX is being hyped up by Nintendo lately. So maybe they have something big planned.

Don't worry to much about it the roms will be back later. Pirates and Emulation hosts are very hard to out right stop.

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I should probably also mention that recently the WiiU just got broken in half. By that I mean we have a working emulator of it now. Not perfect but I'm sure that scared the piss out of Nintendo when they found out.

[tacticslion]

They are really trying to make a big push towards the virtual console. Normally that's fine, we still get access to these old games for cheap. But Nintendo has been painfully slow at updating the thing and a lot of the old libraries (hundreds of games) are still missing.

Unless they plan to add 20 to 50 games a week. I think this might have been over kill. Then again the NX is being hyped up by Nintendo lately. So maybe they have something big planned.

Don't worry to much about it the roms will be back later. Pirates and Emulation hosts are very hard to out right stop.

---------- Post added at 09:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:48 PM ----------

I should probably also mention that recently the WiiU just got broken in half. By that I mean we have a working emulator of it now. Not perfect but I'm sure that scared the piss out of Nintendo when they found out.

Those two things... make a lot of sense, especially when put into context.

As I only went looking for the ROMs today, and was only looking for stuff I'd had before... until I realized all the Nintendo ROMs were gone..., and I'm not too up to date on stuff that's happening any more, I was curious if there was a big push.

A heavy emphasis on virtual console (limited as it may be) plus a viable emulation of a current system would definitely allow for such a push to be plausible. The fact that I really hadn't heard any sort of backlash over it (which is one of the things I've come to expect from the internet - backlash against having freedoms, whatever they may be, taken from it) was kind of surprising and curious. One of the reasons I was wondering if this was a new thing - just something that hadn't made the rounds, yet.

[Menarker]

Originally, I was going to comment about my thread (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?p=1254533#post1254533) with the "Trans-Pacific Partnership" (TPP) which would have been related in that one of the things that would be made illegal in the TPP is the ability to unlock, modify or tinker with anything you "own" (which arguably would apply to emulations as well given that you're basically gaining access to code you wouldn't otherwise be permitted to).
But Japan isn't one of the 12 countries listed as participating in the TPP last I had heard. Which would make my thoughts on the TPP thing irrelevant unless things are happening in the background.

[tacticslion]

Originally, I was going to comment about my thread (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?p=1254533#post1254533) with the "Trans-Pacific Partnership" (TPP) which would have been related in that one of the things that would be made illegal in the TPP is the ability to unlock, modify or tinker with anything you "own" (which arguably would apply to emulations as well given that you're basically gaining access to code you wouldn't otherwise be permitted to).
But Japan isn't one of the 12 countries listed as participating in the TPP last I had heard. Which would make my thoughts on the TPP thing irrelevant unless things are happening in the background.

Yeah, I'd checked the ones that you'd missed (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?p=1254533#post1254533).

[phil_]

Perhaps there's no backlash because those ROMS are still widely available from multiple trustworthy dens of piracy. Rules, etc., what you want is still there if you look.

Also the TPP makes me disassembling my electric heater to clean it illegal. Fuck the TPP.

[tacticslion]

Perhaps there's no backlash because those ROMS are still widely available from multiple trustworthy dens of piracy. Rules, etc., what you want is still there if you look.

Thanks. I honestly didn't find any legit-looking ones, but I'm made to understand they exist, now.

Also the TPP makes me disassembling my electric heater to clean it illegal.

That sounds stupid, un-enforceable, and also illegal by most standards.

Fuck the TPP.

That sounds painful for multiple possible interpretations; also dangerous. I'll pass.

Thanks, though!

[Aerozord]

How long ago did you last get ROMs? Nintendo's been pretty aggressive about its IP for awhile now

Originally, I was going to comment about my thread (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?p=1254533#post1254533) with the "Trans-Pacific Partnership" (TPP) which would have been related in that one of the things that would be made illegal in the TPP is the ability to unlock, modify or tinker with anything you "own" (which arguably would apply to emulations as well given that you're basically gaining access to code you wouldn't otherwise be permitted to).
But Japan isn't one of the 12 countries listed as participating in the TPP last I had heard. Which would make my thoughts on the TPP thing irrelevant unless things are happening in the background.

Thats the kind of thing I was saying works against attempts to get people concerned about TPP. Because, well it doesn't as you pointed out, also if they are already doing it than that diffuses tension about TPP making it sound more like business as usual.

[tacticslion]

How long ago did you last get ROMs? Nintendo's been pretty aggressive about its IP for awhile now

It's been a while - quite a while. I don't remember, exactly, the last time I did anything with ROMs. Maybe sometime around an old SNES LP that was on these boards? I find that my head-space for these sorts of things has lessened considerably the more ADD and "fatherly" I get - two things that I didn't realize were so interconnected until I started experiencing them.

[shiney]

You gotta hit the torrents to find ROMs nowadays. Fortunately the communities are decent at curating content so ironically you can verify if the files are trustworthy.

[Marc v4.0]

Or get lucky like me and score a few CDs of a co-worker years back that contained hundreds of SNES, NES, and genesis roms :smug: