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Old 10-13-2011, 11:54 AM   #1
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Ffffff- SO HEY GUESS WHAT WE NO LONGER HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH GUYS

Apparently the government thinks talking about doing something is grounds for a federal crime.

I mad.

I mean, fuck, we're talking about activities taking place in a location where they're LEGAL. TALKING about performing LEGAL activities in a setting where they are LEGAL when they're taking place.

Fuck the police, I'm off to occupy Wall Street.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:11 PM   #2
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It came from the house and isn't yet law. Also it won't pass constitutional muster. I am unworried at this time. It only passed a committee for nwo. If it hits fartbongo's desk and is signed, THEN worry.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:17 PM   #3
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I'm more appalled that it's actually been PENNED. I mean, who the fuck do they think they are?

Unamerican legislation is unamerican.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:22 PM   #4
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UnAmerican Government is UnAmerican.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:37 PM   #5
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Define "American" vs. "UnAmerican".
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Old 10-13-2011, 03:30 PM   #6
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Define "American" vs. "UnAmerican".
"American" is the perceived positive ideals of the populace, i.e. "Free Speech, Acceptance of all, Right to defend and protect yourself, and Support for those in need."

UnAmerican is anything that openly violates those ideals people perceive to be American.

How accurate those ideals are, how inspired or ignored they may be, are how I perceive Americanism. It's an entirely different discussion, to see if America was ever American.
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:01 PM   #7
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Define "American" vs. "UnAmerican".
Supposedly a trick question but I will attempt the unattemptable!

1. Opposing one of the four freedoms of the first amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America is UnAmerican!

Alright that's all I got so far...we can add stuff later. But I think we can all agree on this one.

EDIT: lol Lamar Smith. Yeah not particularly worried about this...

Basically attempting to enforce American laws on foreign soil is impossible. And why just in regard to American citizens? Why not start arresting Bhutanese for having more than one wife or arresting Dutch people for smoking pot and having sex with prostitutes?

Then again, arresting the Koch brothers for "legally" selling equipment to the Iranians through foreign holdings...it is sort of appealing. But since it mainly seems aimed at like arresting dudes for smoking pot in Amsterdam I think we can all safely say it's dead on arrival, both constitutionally, ethically, freaking reasonably, in that I can't even think of a good reason where it would ever actually be applied.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:42 PM   #8
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I think the line will become more clear once they try to regulate sugar and alcohol.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:48 PM   #9
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We've had worse laws actually approved in the past. See: Adams' presidency
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:55 PM   #10
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Lamar Smith puts forth retarded legislation that won't see the light of day? My my my, this really is an average Thursday.
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