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Unread 02-10-2010, 03:31 AM   #281
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Make sure you check all the shops - you can find schematics for a lot of stuff.

And, you know, model starships and fish.
God damn is it anoying to have to feed your fish. And how often do you need to feed them anyway? I fed them every time I went up to the cabin, but still they kept dying. Also it would've been cool to have a few more types of fish.

The ship models were pretty cool though. What were they again? Ship models, spoil yourself!Normandy SR1, Normandy SR2, Turian cruiser, Alliance cruiser, Destiny's Ascencion, Geth dropship/frigate/cruiser (seriosly, which one is it? You see them dropping Geth all over the place, they seem about the size of a frigate and in the battle of the citadel they take on cruisers as equals basically), that 'all around freighter' -design (the interior of which is much less boring and less stupid in ME2 than in ME1), Sovereign, Kodak shuttle and Quarian science ship. What else?
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Unread 02-10-2010, 04:16 AM   #282
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So, a friend of mine revealed a startling bit of information to me the other day.

At some point when you speak to Legion, he tells you that the Geth consider the whole Quarian thing to be more of an argument than the war the Quarians treat it as. In fact, the Geth are apparently maintaining the planet properly in anticipation of their return. I assume this refers to Legion's faction, and not the heretics - evil geth seem all too happy to kill Quarians whenever possible. If this is true, it puts a whole new spin on the Quarian/Geth relationship.

Even before this though, I kinda got the feeling that the Quarians were in the wrong here. I mean, yes, there's a feeling in the galaxy that all AIs are evil for whatever reason... but I got the feeling that this was a precedent set mostly by the Geth flipping out. Talking to Tali made me realize that really, the Geth were just defending themselves - when they were first produced and they linked enough intelligences together to become sentient, they didn't question what they were there to do. They just asked questions about their own existence and the Quarians responded by systematically dismantling them. All things considered, the Geth response was entirely justified, and if the spoilered information is true, they might really make the Quarians look like assholes in the near future.

I mean yeah, you can screw Tali in this game, but who knows? Maybe this whole Legion romance thing will get off the ground and in ME3 you earn his/their love by doing a war crime tribunal or something against the Quarians.

"Shepard-Commander... No one has ever done such a thing for us. 963 of our processes are feeling more open-minded about the concept of attempting interface with an organic creature. The rest of our processes remain incredulous that such an event could occur. Does Shepard-Commander have any ideas?"
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Unread 02-10-2010, 04:49 AM   #283
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God damn is it anoying to have to feed your fish. And how often do you need to feed them anyway? I fed them every time I went up to the cabin, but still they kept dying. Also it would've been cool to have a few more types of fish.
I think you got all the ships.

Also, if you flirt enough with Kelly to the point where you invite her for a dinner, she'll offer to feed your fish for you.

This doesn't interfere with any other romancing you're doing, as long as you don't take it any further (if there's even a further to go to...).
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Unread 02-10-2010, 06:04 AM   #284
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Also, if you flirt enough with Kelly to the point where you invite her for a dinner, she'll offer to feed your fish for you.
"offer" and "does" are two different words and little miss perky bitch let my fish die.
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Unread 02-10-2010, 10:12 AM   #285
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"offer" and "does" are two different words and little miss perky bitch let my fish die.
What?
She's never done that for me. Err, that is, letting them die.

Did you have the dinner with her, and said that you enjoyed it? Or did you answer negatively? I have no idea if that even affects things.
I got Kelly up for dinner, and then went on my merry way, getting it on with Tali.

A quick search on various forums shows me that not a lot of people have that problem, so... I dunno.

EDIT: Also, found on GameFAQs, originated from the official forums: Regarding end-game:
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"Mordin's death is not a glitch or bug. I believe that when people are surprised with Mordin's death, it's during the "Hold the Line" time where you leave crew behind as you and two squad mates move onward. Tech had their moment in the sun with the tunnel infiltration. A biotic is key for the protective bubble. The Hold the Line sequence is time for your soldier types to do their best.

Basically you want your best DEFENDERS to hold the line. Don't think about offensive solo strikers. Think about the guys that can dig down and hold a position with moxie. You want them to hold the line.

Under the hood, each character has a "hole the line" score, which gets a bonus if the character is loyal. Characters like Mordin, Jack and Tali are squishy and not exoeruenced with bunkering down and holding out for an extended period of time. Characters like Grunt and Zaeed are tanks who thrive on this type of work. The score is tallied for all the team members that are holding the line, and the number of survivors are calculated. If people are to die, the non-loyals squishies go first through the list to the loyal tanks. Alas, I think Mordin is at the head of the death list. Some characters can't survive without help even if they are loyal. Others can survive even if not loyal.

Here are some examples for the group holding the line:
Loyal Mordin by himself: He can't hold the line by himself. He dies.
Non-loyal Grunt by himself: Grunt lives. He hunkers down and gets the job done, and doesn't have to worry about helping any one else.
Loyal Mordin and non-Loyal Grunt: Grunt dies, but Mordin lives. Grunt is able to hold the line but goofs up helping Mordin... he was just too aggressive without his right of passage.
Loyal Mordin and Loyal Grunt: They both live.

Note it is possible to get non-loyal henchmen to survive through the end game with the proper group holding the line.

So what is a good strategy? Send back a loyal squishy with the crew, like Mordin or Tali. Leave your defensive bad asses to hold the line (hmmm, Garrus defended a base all by himself to an extended period of time....) and take your loyal offensive favorites with you to the end.

As for saving Kelly and the crew, you just need to make sure you go through the Omega-4 relay right after the crew is taken, and make sure you send a loyal squad mate back as an escort."
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I think this is pretty much what Krylo mentioned earlier in the thread, but here you got Word of God.

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Unread 02-10-2010, 05:00 PM   #286
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Wait, you have to feed the fish?! I thought they were just, I dont know, non-interactive. *checks game* THEY ARE ALL DEAD. I mean we can create artificial gravity, universal translators, psionic powers, sentient AI, but we cant make an automated feeder for my fish?

Incase anyone was worried, if you didn't SHEPARD PUNCH the reporter in the first game you get another chance, complete with "wish I did that the first time"
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Unread 02-10-2010, 05:04 PM   #287
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You know what's one of the things I'd like to see in ME3? Some sort of action / mission / assignment in our solar system, Sol. It doesn't have to be Earth, but what about Luna or Mars? Heck, even Gagarin Station, Titan or something similar would satisfy me.

EDIT: I just embarrassed the reporter with my paragon conversation options in both games. It was sort of more fun to just make her look like an ass instead of punching.
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Unread 02-10-2010, 05:09 PM   #288
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You know what's one of the things I'd like to see in ME3? Some sort of action / mission / assignment in our solar system, Sol. It doesn't have to be Earth, but what about Luna or Mars? Heck, even Gagarin Station, Titan or something similar would satisfy me.

EDIT: I just embarrassed the reporter with my paragon conversation options in both games. It was sort of more fun to just make her look like an ass instead of punching.
Well Luna was a mission in the first game, so I doubt it'll be in the third. But its toooooooootally open for some Local Cluster action when the Reaper-shit hits the fan in the third game.
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Unread 02-10-2010, 05:50 PM   #289
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Yeah, but the Luna mission in ME1 was as boring and unimaginative as sidequests in RPG's get. Besides, I meant more along the lines of seeing some actual civilazation, like the supposed capital of Luna, Armstrong, or Lowell City in Mars.
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Why not Earth? I mean, The Reapers are coming, and boy are they pissed at Humanity. Why not have a big climactic showdown on Earth? Seems like they'd want to attack it right away, after all.
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