Premmy's Big-Long Anti-Racism thread.

Funka Genocide · 03-02-2010, 01:28 AM

I'd just like to point out that I am against the concept of cultural tradition. I feel that's one of the biggest divisive factors in interpersonal relationships. Also, nationalism is a bunch of bullshit too.

If people stopped identifying themselves with artificially reinforced organizations they'd probably have an easier time identifying with their fellow man.

But as a very basic example, let's take Tommy and Billy.

Let's say that Tommy and Billy had very similar lives. Tommy grew up in a one bedroom apartment with his 2 other siblings, his mother raising him mainly on government welfare programs and a few brief spurts of employment. Tommy never knew his father and as a consequence of general neglect from his only parent coupled with poverty, he grew up a rather angry young man. He got in a lot of fights as a child and, since his mother never emphasized the importance of education, he did poorly in school. He dropped out of high school at the age of 16 and, with very few professional prospects he took to selling drugs in his community to support himself.

Let's say that Billy grew up in a mobile home with his physically abusive alcoholic father and mother. Let's assume that his mother left when he was 8 years old and that his father became progressively more abusive over the years. Billy as a consequence of general neglect and poverty was a very angry young man who did poorly in school because his father never emphasized the importance of education. Billy too dropped out of high school at 16 after falling in with a gang, subsequently he became involved in petty crimes and occasionally armed robbery of convenience stores.

Lets say that Tommy is white and Billy is black.

Where will they be at 30?

If you're assuming that the Association of Concerned White People is going to mail Tommy a check to bail him out you're wrong. The truth is both of these boys are fucked because nobody gave a shit about them. It's has nothing to do with race and everything to do with a cycle of poverty. The fact that Tommy and Billy's parents never had it together enough to offer them the support they needed for success had infinitely more to do with their subsequent failures than the color of their skin ever did, and to assume otherwise is ridiculous.

I'm of the opinion that personal responsibility is something a lot of people living in poverty don't understand fully. Regardless of race or ethnicity, people who spend their entire lives in poverty while churning out babies like fucking churros are wrong. I suppose from a macro level, top-down perspective one might assume that Racism is to blame for all those downtrodden minorities (by and large ignoring the majority that are also living in poverty) and say "something needs to be done!' with that something remaining as mysterious and elusive as ever.

That something is people growing the fuck up and living up to their responsibilities.

03-02-2010, 01:28 AM	#11
Funka Genocide Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,566	I'd just like to point out that I am against the concept of cultural tradition. I feel that's one of the biggest divisive factors in interpersonal relationships. Also, nationalism is a bunch of bullshit too. If people stopped identifying themselves with artificially reinforced organizations they'd probably have an easier time identifying with their fellow man. But as a very basic example, let's take Tommy and Billy. Let's say that Tommy and Billy had very similar lives. Tommy grew up in a one bedroom apartment with his 2 other siblings, his mother raising him mainly on government welfare programs and a few brief spurts of employment. Tommy never knew his father and as a consequence of general neglect from his only parent coupled with poverty, he grew up a rather angry young man. He got in a lot of fights as a child and, since his mother never emphasized the importance of education, he did poorly in school. He dropped out of high school at the age of 16 and, with very few professional prospects he took to selling drugs in his community to support himself. Let's say that Billy grew up in a mobile home with his physically abusive alcoholic father and mother. Let's assume that his mother left when he was 8 years old and that his father became progressively more abusive over the years. Billy as a consequence of general neglect and poverty was a very angry young man who did poorly in school because his father never emphasized the importance of education. Billy too dropped out of high school at 16 after falling in with a gang, subsequently he became involved in petty crimes and occasionally armed robbery of convenience stores. Lets say that Tommy is white and Billy is black. Where will they be at 30? If you're assuming that the Association of Concerned White People is going to mail Tommy a check to bail him out you're wrong. The truth is both of these boys are fucked because nobody gave a shit about them. It's has nothing to do with race and everything to do with a cycle of poverty. The fact that Tommy and Billy's parents never had it together enough to offer them the support they needed for success had infinitely more to do with their subsequent failures than the color of their skin ever did, and to assume otherwise is ridiculous. I'm of the opinion that personal responsibility is something a lot of people living in poverty don't understand fully. Regardless of race or ethnicity, people who spend their entire lives in poverty while churning out babies like fucking churros are wrong. I suppose from a macro level, top-down perspective one might assume that Racism is to blame for all those downtrodden minorities (by and large ignoring the majority that are also living in poverty) and say "something needs to be done!' with that something remaining as mysterious and elusive as ever. That something is people growing the fuck up and living up to their responsibilities. Last edited by Funka Genocide; 03-02-2010 at 01:32 AM.