Roger Ebert claims "video games cannot be art"; molests children.

Krylo · 04-25-2010, 02:18 AM

You're gonna make me do this, aren't you?

Fine. Chess, etc. are not art because they do not exist to make socio-political commentary, they do not exist to bring beauty, they do not exist to express ideas, they do not exist to create emotion.

A well played game of chess could be loosely defined as art, in the playing itself, much as commentators will often call athletes poetry in motion, or say that their movements have a particular art to them in and of themselves, in that anything done well enough can capture emotion, and express beauty.

These simple games themselves, however, can not.

On the other hand, just to pull something out of thin air here, Lunar can express social ideas on the importance of love and song, God of War can show human pathos of all sorts, and Katamari Damacy can exist as a thing to show and create beauty and emotion. They do these things regardless of how well (or poorly) they are played.

This is where things become different. And those aren't even particularly artistic games.

04-25-2010, 02:18 AM	#18
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	You're gonna make me do this, aren't you? Fine. Chess, etc. are not art because they do not exist to make socio-political commentary, they do not exist to bring beauty, they do not exist to express ideas, they do not exist to create emotion. A well played game of chess could be loosely defined as art, in the playing itself, much as commentators will often call athletes poetry in motion, or say that their movements have a particular art to them in and of themselves, in that anything done well enough can capture emotion, and express beauty. These simple games themselves, however, can not. On the other hand, just to pull something out of thin air here, Lunar can express social ideas on the importance of love and song, God of War can show human pathos of all sorts, and Katamari Damacy can exist as a thing to show and create beauty and emotion. They do these things regardless of how well (or poorly) they are played. This is where things become different. And those aren't even particularly artistic games. __________________ I am very tired.