Sparring Ring Idea

[krogothwolf]

Man, I don't know about you but when I was age 10-22 me and my friends use to have backyard brawls all the time, and that didn't involve pussy crap like holding back on your punches and crap. We obviously didn't try to kill each other or seriously hurt each other(Though I did break my friends arm when he didn't give in, but that wasn't my fault!).We had a rule if you tapped out you were done(or got knocked out) Sure we got injured, but it was still fun! Also we tried not to kick each other in the junk, but didn't mean we never did!

[ThatPoorMessenger]

Well, yes, but I would class all of that, except breaking the arm, minor injury.

[Hanuman]

Originally Posted by Hatake Kakashi

Is that the traditional Jiu-Jitsu, or the one you see in MMA all the time where you lay on your back while someone mounts you, punches you, and calls you a dirty whore? I could see multiple... attackers... wanting to take their turns. Yes.

Only kidding, man. Even so, multiple attackers are best evaded rather than confronted. If you take them on for any extent, best case scenario is you beat them all while taking a few minor shots because they're all somehow unskilled. Not an impossible notion... not everyone is trained to fight... but worst case scenario, someone in the group has experience besides a couple of minor brawls and takes you out.

Jiu Jitsu has a lot of good techniques to deal with multiple attackers, it's just none of them are MMA since MMA is strictly 1v1 cage match gladiator style. It's mostly takedowns that you see in MMA except they deal with the next attacker instead of pursuing the grounded one. Personally I think kung fu mixed with systema kicks are a better defense vs multiple opponent takedowns, but that's just me, and jiu jitsu takedowns are made efficient by breaking fingers and wrists while you do it.

[ThatPoorMessenger]

Originally Posted by Lev

Personally I think kung fu mixed with systema kicks are a better defense vs multiple opponent takedowns, but that's just me

Not really thought of that. Would advocate there are different realms within martial arts that would be better if twisted into the style.

[Hanuman]

Originally Posted by ThatPoorMessenger

Not really thought of that. Would advocate there are different realms within martial arts that would be better if twisted into the style.

Tai chi is a major one, stupidly powerful balance ability comes out of that.

[Jagos]

It came to my attention a little while ago that almost all martial art scenarios concentrate heavily on the 1 vs 1 scenario both in philosophy, physically and legally.
But, what if you are jumped by 2-8 guys, and what if they are armed?

Best thing is to have your back against a wall.

Goes to the Sun-Tzu saying about giving your opponent a place to retreat. If you back even a rat into a corner, it will fight more fiercely than if it has a hole to escape through.

You will have all of your opponents on one side of you, you can watch their movements, and when you have to ram their head into a wall repeatedly, it gets them to back off.

Oh, and if you can, sniff out the leader. Push through all of the little guys, take him down and take him out. Once the leader is gone in a fight, the rest of the pack disperses since you've just shown you're the top dog. *thumbs up*

[ThatPoorMessenger]

Oh, and if you can, sniff out the leader. Push through all of the little guys, take him down and take him out. Once the leader is gone in a fight, the rest of the pack disperses since you've just shown you're the top dog. *thumbs up*

Not all people are like dogs. Although a lot of them seem to possess the intellect of them.

Tai chi is a major one, stupidly powerful balance ability comes out of that.

Stability tends to be a good thing. Although using an aggressor's body weight in such a scenario would hold you a lot better than anything else. You need to conserve stamina, not hurt people, and still get on top. Then again, personal balance is a neccessity upon such a field of play.

[7days]

I agree with Jagos. Find the biggest, meanest one and hurt them. I mean really hurt them. Ender style. That way you not only win the battle, you win the war. The only way to defeat a group is to break that group mentality. Make them remember that they are individuals and individuals can be hurt.

[ThatPoorMessenger]

I agree with Jagos. Find the biggest, meanest one and hurt them. I mean really hurt them.

I thought the whole philosophy was not to use heavy injury?

[7days]

If they are armed, and outnumber you, I don't know if non-heavy injury is an actual possibility unless you have a lot (and I mean a lot) of training. I would assume in a situation like that you would be fighting for your survival. Non-injurious methods are not really an option. I would argue that if your opponents are not interested in playing fair there is no reason to limit yourself in such a way. Now if you are into martial arts training to the point that it becomes more about philosophy than self defense, I would assume you could take them down non-violently. But for most people, even with a little training, facing several armed assailants is not a philisophical exercise but a fight for your life scenario.

Edit: Besides, an overwhelming show of force on one person may help you to avoid having to fight( and possibly injure) all of them.

2nd Edit: I just reread the start of the thread and see that I missed the point. However, I stand by my statement. If several armed opponents jump you, and you fight back and they sue, I'd hope a good lawyer would be able to get you off faster than you could say "self-defense".