*Rant on dangerous pets and their owners*

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by Marc v1.0

I am not singling pitbulls out as needing training to be well adjusted, you are twisting my words to mean that to suit your point of view on the matter.

Originally Posted by Marc v1.0

The door on training this particular breed of Dog swings both ways, but they have recieved a horrible reputation due to a combination of people being careless and either not getting the animal trained properly by a proffesional or deliberatly training it to be a killing machine.

You totally did.

APPARENTLY you didn't mean that.

However, I didn't twist your words at all. That's how that reads.

FURTHER:

ALL DOGS should be professionally trained at least as soon as they start becoming of a terrirorial age. Singling out one particular breed as being a bad egg when it boils down to how Humans have mishandled their training or intentionally trained them to be monsters is wrong.

Originally Posted by Krylo

You realize that with most breeds not doing this isn't going to end up with someone maimed, right?

Seriously, the vast vast vast majority of people are 'careless' with their training of dogs.

The numbers still say pitbulls maim more people.

You'd have a point if people professionally trained every other breed or whatever, but that's not a thing that happens. Hell, Pitbulls, BECAUSE of their reputation, probably get proper training more often than most other dogs.

Honestly, your point seems to be that despite this breed a) being stronger than most other breeds, b) being statistically more likely to maim than other breeds, and c) being bred to fight and then as guard dogs* that they are no more dangerous than dogs that are weaker than them, statistically less likely to maim than them, and were bred to be companions. Which doesn't make sense, really.

And is, honestly, just a dangerous attitude to propagate. Maybe you think all dogs should be professionally trained. Most people don't. Most people won't get a dog professionally trained if they don't think not doing so is going to significantly dangerous. Most people grew up with dogs of less aggressive breeds that weren't professionally trained and never had a problem. Most people have reason to believe the average dog doesn't need it.

Pitbulls, rottweilers, sharpeis, aka...whatever they ares, etc. etc. do. Other dogs could benefit as well, yes, but you're significantly less likely to end up with your Jack Terrier maiming a child (or adult) than your pitbull. DEM'S JUST STATISTICAL LIKE FACTS.

And honestly, why do you think that it is a correlation directly between more people training pitbulls to be aggressive or mistreating them automatically? You have no evidence of this as causation. All we have is correlation, here. Without numbers backing up that pitbulls are only more likely to be aggressive because they are more likely to be mistreated (which I honestly find unlikely: dobermans are just as often trained for that kind of misbehavior and are yet far 'safer') seems rather... defensive of the breed.

It's a pretty small fringe of people that raise dogs to be violent on purpose. And if it isn't on purpose it's just as likely to be any other dog as a pitbull.

*Settlers bred and trained them as guard dogs. I had the order of fighting vs guard wrong before, admittedly.