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Unread 07-12-2011, 06:07 PM   #11
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The Rainbow Ministry of St. Cecilia’s Church opened its doors to nearly 700 people yesterday for a long-awaited Mass in support of gay and lesbian Catholics, capping a month of controversy over the Boston Archdiocese’s postponement of the service.

A standing-room-only crowd, larger than Easter Sunday’s, packed the pews to hear the Rev. John J. Unni’s characteristically fiery message of love, acceptance, and the forgiveness of sins.

Unni’s message, which encouraged the congregation to welcome outcasts as Jesus did 2,000 years ago, was similar to that of weeks past. The difference yesterday, parishioners said, was Unni’s courage to say those words during a Mass that has drawn so much vitriol as well as passionate support.
Note the part I bolded and underlined. "Forgiveness of Sins" imply that what they are doing is still a sin and that they are still doing something wrong compared to everyone else. This could accidently make it seem like the pride population should be pitied for going astray, which is not the direction that the pride population is going for.

That said, this seems to be a step in the right direction, but choosing the wrong topics can backfire, even when said topics is otherwise benign in nature.

Of course, that depends very much on the actual content of the speech.

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Unread 07-12-2011, 06:21 PM   #12
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So are you saying gays and straights, white and blacks aren't different parts of the same spectrum of humanity?
My exact words were "Aren't they different parts of the same spectrum?" So, no, that is the opposite of what I'm saying.

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As for the "It's nature"- well that's certainly an argument homophobes use, yes.
Yeah I thought it was pretty clever since they like to use the argument that homosexuality is somehow against nature and I symbolically pointed out that rainbows are a part of the natural world. Is it opposite day where you live or something?
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Unread 07-12-2011, 07:15 PM   #13
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Note the part I bolded and underlined. "Forgiveness of Sins" imply that what they are doing is still a sin and that they are still doing something wrong compared to everyone else. This could accidently make it seem like the pride population should be pitied for going astray, which is not the direction that the pride population is going for.

That said, this seems to be a step in the right direction, but choosing the wrong topics can backfire, even when said topics is otherwise benign in nature.

Of course, that depends very much on the actual content of the speech.
They will likely always view it as a sin regardless. As long as they treat the people with humanity and respect, though, it is a step in the right direction. As you said.
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Unread 07-12-2011, 09:17 PM   #14
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Unread 07-13-2011, 06:24 AM   #15
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GUYS WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A RAINBOW IS AN OPTICAL AND METEOROLOGICAL PHENOMENON THAT CAUSES A SPECTRUM OF LIGHT TO APPEAR IN THE SKY WHEN THE SUN SHINES ON DROPLETS OF MOISTURE IN THE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE



ALSO IT IS BECAUSE GOD TOTALLY PROMISED NOT TO FLOOD THE EARTH ANYMORE
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Unread 07-13-2011, 08:10 AM   #16
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ALSO IT IS BECAUSE GOD TOTALLY PROMISED NOT TO FLOOD THE EARTH ANYMORE
WHICH IS HONESTLY LIKE A GUY STANDING OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE WITH A GUN PROMISING NOT TO SHOOT YOU WITH IT
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Unread 07-13-2011, 09:08 AM   #17
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WHICH IS HONESTLY LIKE A GUY STANDING OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE WITH A GUN PROMISING NOT TO SHOOT YOU WITH IT
Except the gun is really an allegorical moral story, and you can't actually prove if there is or is not a man outside
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Unread 07-13-2011, 09:20 AM   #18
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Except the gun is really an allegorical moral story, and you can't actually prove if there is or is not a man outside
There's probably a Murakami story about this.
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Unread 07-13-2011, 09:25 AM   #19
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Except the gun is really an allegorical moral story, and you can't actually prove if there is or is not a man outside
And every now and then people come to your door and try to convince you that the man with the gun loves you and wants to save you, but only if you worship him and give money to people he's never endorsed or actually met.
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Unread 07-13-2011, 09:31 AM   #20
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And every now and then people come to your door and try to convince you that the man with the gun loves you and wants to save you, but only if you worship him and give money to people he's never endorsed or actually met.
I can't tell if we are talking about the church or capitalism
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