Mafia Mafia! Also fucking pepper spray.

[Nikose Tyris]

Literally, my entire arguement against Gem is, "I'm half paying attention, it's exam week. I have enough of a good role I should make a token attempt against death." But hey, town doesn't need a bodyguard.

Also IHMN and BahamutFlare are my bids for the scum in this game. Reading the thread details my suspicions. I'm unsure on Ecks, because he's Ecks.

[Ecks]

Okay bf lynching inactives is not pro scum and you know it. Inactivity is just as much a scum hiding tactic as no lynch voting and wasting lynches. And either way with shorter days than your usual mafia game, encouraging people to post and actually play a game as opposed to not playing and depriving the active players of potential leads, I'd rather take a chance on an inactive who could be scum trying not to draw attention to themselves than lynch some guy on a bandwagon hunch and possibly lose our bodyguard or doctor.

That said, I have been a little unfair about it, and shouldn't be so quick to jump on inactivity.

[Ecks]

Let me elaborate on this since I'm no longer on my phone and thus I'm not rushed to defend myself.

Now that I'm not all rash and upset and irritated about getting hassled while I'm at work, I do actually see your point BF about not wasting the day's lynch. My prejudice against inactivity was colored by the previous mafia game and despite my words to everyone to put it behind them it seems I'm just as guilty of hanging on to the bad taste in my mouth. The thing that ruined Spy Among Us most for me was the massive inactivity. Forget the fact it was a bastard game, it just seemed like nobody wanted to play and my beginner's excitement over getting to play at all was pretty much squashed.

Hence my vitriol regarding keeping everyone playing this time around. As far as my statement about waiting until the end of the day is concerned, if Earl had kept to his original deadline, I may not have made it home from work in time to read through the thread again and decide on a vote. Happily this is not the case and I did in fact make it home not only in time for the original deadline, but Earl also extended it.

I need a little more time to think about this.

[Nikose Tyris]

Hm. I have a feeling I'm going to die.

[Inbred Chocobo]

Originally Posted by Geminex

Nikose, the one vote on you was from Bookworm. As in, the guy who isn't actually playing, but who decided to vote anyway.

Mind you, I'm tempted to make it 3. Because this line:


This is a bad line. You're implying that your roleclaim would prevent your death. You're not outright claiming, so there's no liability, but you're trying to hide behind the possibility that you might have a power role. And that's bad. I understand why you'd wanna save yourself, but trying to hide behind that is a strategy anyone can use, including scum. And using it as town just makes it that much more attractive for scum. You're a smart player! You'd know this.

So,
: Nikose

Okay, now I gotta step in.

For one, I wasn't aware that Bookworm was just making joke posts instead of actually being in the game until you made your post as well, and I can honestly see Nikose being confused by it as well.

I also see Nikose's posts, and for once, it feels like Nikose being dumb, not Nikose being scum. I don't agree that he is scum at all, and I actually believe his roleclaim.

For lynching inactives, most of the time inactives mean they have no interest in the mafia game, why do they have no interest in the mafia game, is because they don't have interesting roles. Most of the time, this turns out to be town. However it is too early to look into inactives yet, so no point pursuing that line of reasoning.

I'm FOSing Geminex right now, as I feel its more of a misguided threat than a scum target, and

Bahamutflare

His aggression makes me feel like he is attempting to lead the town to victory, and make it feel like the town needs him. Its coming off really strong from what I have read, and heavy handed, and its a bit of a scum tactic, so that is where I will plant my butt for now.

[BahamutFlare]

I'd still rather get some info out of an actual lynch than an inactive. D1 lynch the inactive is just raising alarms in my head. And as for D1, I feel as if this is a pretty decent lead. Heck yeah I'm gonna be aggressive. I have a habit for always being annoying to scum in these games. Hence I live til the end. And my role is designed especially for my personality in real life.

Seriously guys, Nikose if scum will out himself sooner rather than later. As of right now, he hasn't done anything that major. I believe him for now too. I agree with everything IC said except for voting for me. Why he doesn't want to roleclaim or die D1 is probably because of a power role. It was probably stupid to say that, but he always dies D1/N1 anyway. And if no one counter claims, it's probably true.

I'm surprised that Gem wouldn't think of the possibility of a power role before prodding.

[Geminex]

I'm surprised that Gem wouldn't think of the possibility of a power role before prodding.

I did! But roles are WIFOM. Anyone might have a role. And I did consider that Nikose might have a power role. I also considered that Nikose might not, in fact, have a role. Either was a possibility. What tilted the scale for me, again, was just this bit:

I don't want to die/roleclaim on day 1.

This has no function other than to make his attackers doubt themselves. He's hiding behind the fact that he might havea power role. Unfortunately, that logic applies to anyone! Town can use it. But so can scum! In the end, it just stalls the lynch. And as you have so aptly stated, the lynch is the town's main weapon. It's not in the interest of town to cast doubts on a lynch based on a role you might or might not have.

I think my reasoning at the time was valid. Misguided, perhaps, but valid. However:
Unbutt: Nikose
He's claimed now. An unfortunate claim, to be sure, but a claim. And it's at this point that I don't wanna risk it. Bahamut seems to trust him, and he does have a good track record. Not sure who my vote will go to, in the end, but okay.

[rpgdemon]

Originally Posted by BahamutFlare

I have a habit for always being annoying to scum in these games. Hence I live til the end. And my role is designed especially for my personality in real life.

That... Makes no sense. If you play annoyingly to the scum, you will be killed, won't you?

I for one am not sure if I trust Nik's roleclaim. My reasons are threefold:

1) It's not formatted how the roles were sent to us in our PMs from Aldurin. Double check your own PMs for how it's supposed to be formatted, I don't want to give away information to scum. But it's substantially different.

2) Was he actually at a lynch-level? I thought Ecks was in the lead for votes.

3) Bodyguard is a claim that is a two-for-one for scum. A) The town doesn't want to kill their bodyguard, and B) The only way the claim can be beaten is by getting rid of a big threat to the scum.

I will admit, 2 and 3 are weak points, which only are there because of point number 1. 3 in particular is weak because it can be said against REAL power-role claims. It's also weak because the most useful townie to get rid of would probably(?) be the investigator, which Nikose didn't claim. If the bodyguard is more harmful to scum than investigator though, let me know. But point number 2 stands (I think?), and 1 is what really blinks up on my radar.

[rpgdemon]

And through all this, I forgot:

unvote: Ecks

vote: Nikose

[Nikose Tyris]

My post is formatted the way we set as an example in this thread, RPG. Because copy and pasting from PM's is GMdeath.