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Unread 10-13-2012, 02:59 PM   #31
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I was stating what would happen if we did try to observe it and succeeded. We wouldn't see it going backwards in time + having negative mass/energy. We would see it going forward in time + having positive mass/energy hence still preserving causality.
If it has positive mass and is moving into the future it is not a Tachyon and therefore you have not observed a Tachyon. Besides that fact every theory with physically possible Tachyons require that they don't interact with anything in basically anyway. Otherwise bad things happen to the Tachyon itself which tend to remove it from existence.

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EDIT: To further add in, it maybe possible that the Tachyon transforms/undergoes a transition into all the other particles we observe. Hence, the very act of observing a Tachyon transforms it into other particles? This could mean the Tacyhon is the force carrier for Probability Wave Functions?
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This is the ramblings of an idiot so don't take it too seriously. Just stating thoughts.
Well I suggest you actually go do something useful with your time instead. Without the requisite education you have about as much chance at getting even remotely close to right as you have of lifting the entire planet. You aren't going to understand why you're wrong either and that is just going to frustrate both of us.
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Unread 10-13-2012, 06:36 PM   #32
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Sithdarth: demonstrating why American politicians never want to fund any of this stuff--nobody can explain it properly to the non-initiated! Also, you scientists are interloping in the domain of God!~ and etc.

For 2016 we need a Science party, with a candidate steeped in particle physics and quantum mechanics, and also some candidates for Senate and the House who can then vote for funding. My only demand is that part of the funding be spent on educating the masses on the subject through the use of edutainment comic books.

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Unread 10-13-2012, 06:54 PM   #33
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Sithdarth: demonstrating why American politicians never want to fund any of this stuff--nobody can explain it properly to the non-initiated! Also, you scientists are interloping in the domain of God!~ and etc.

For 2016 we need a Science party, with a candidate steeped in particle physics and quantum mechanics, and also some candidates for Senate and the House who can then vote for funding. My only demand is that part of the funding be spent on educating the masses on the subject through the use of edutainment comic books.
Its a common misconception that one has to fully understand a scientific discipline in order to want to fund it. That is not really true. No scientist should try to make a politician understand the science. Instead they have to make them understand the importance of science and get them excited to be a part of funding it. Generally this just means applications which can be difficult to find for some research.

Also, there are actually PhD in Congress at least one of which I think is a physicist. So there is a presence and there are several other representatives in congress that strongly support science. What we need for better science funding is public outreach, I've heard rumblings about using TV and movie ads to get the public to support funding science, (constituents have more control than they think about what gets funded and if enough normal people demand science funding it will happen) and more meetings between charismatic scientists and congressional leaders (a well funded special interest group dedicated to science wouldn't hurt). Wouldn't hurt if we could put the tax level on the rich back to the 90% level it used to be at and maybe cut back on the military budget a little. You know just to free up some cash to actually fund things.
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Unread 10-13-2012, 08:34 PM   #34
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Its a common misconception that one has to fully understand a scientific discipline in order to want to fund it. That is not really true. No scientist should try to make a politician understand the science. Instead they have to make them understand the importance of science and get them excited to be a part of funding it. Generally this just means applications which can be difficult to find for some research.

Also, there are actually PhD in Congress at least one of which I think is a physicist. So there is a presence and there are several other representatives in congress that strongly support science. What we need for better science funding is public outreach, I've heard rumblings about using TV and movie ads to get the public to support funding science, (constituents have more control than they think about what gets funded and if enough normal people demand science funding it will happen) and more meetings between charismatic scientists and congressional leaders (a well funded special interest group dedicated to science wouldn't hurt). Wouldn't hurt if we could put the tax level on the rich back to the 90% level it used to be at and maybe cut back on the military budget a little. You know just to free up some cash to actually fund things.
Isn't a lot of what we have today a result of the budgets for the Military and Space programs? *Cites the Internet, Microwave ovens, GPS, cell phones*
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Unread 10-13-2012, 09:20 PM   #35
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Isn't a lot of what we have today a result of the budgets for the Military and Space programs? *Cites the Internet, Microwave ovens, GPS, cell phones*
For starters the space program sort of kind of had a military base at the start but shouldn't really be lumped into military spending. Especially since it is so horribly underfunded right now. Beyond that the vast and I mean vast majority of military spending is for buying things, paying people, and just running the military not figuring stuff out (Research is slightly over 10% of the total budget making it a very distant fourth to buying stuff). Military overhead is so much more of an expense than military research and you can still do military research without spending hundreds of millions of dollars on what like 4 planes, or paying thousands of soldiers to basically do nothing. In fact you could do it much better than it is currently being done by putting more funding into the research. In fact one might argue that if the military had to do more with less hardware it might actually force them to be more innovative and do more research. For example if they couldn't simply spend tens of millions of dollars on a single plane maybe they'd find a better way to achieve the same goal and who knows what technology that might lead to.

Simply put cutting military spending doesn't mean cutting military research. The best thing to do would to cut the size of the military itself. It doesn't need to be nearly as big as it is. Maybe then we could also fund NASA like it deserves.
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Thank you SithDarth, Robinstarwing, and Magus. I think understand this subject a little better.
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Thank you SithDarth, Robinstarwing, and Magus. I think understand this subject a little better.
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Unread 10-15-2012, 09:47 AM   #38
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What do you mean "was"?

Anyway, there's this ancient German saying that goes something like this "He who does not ask questions shall remain an idiot for all eternity forever eternally"
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