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[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

Destructoid talks about it here and nintendo life goes into a little more detail here

[Krylo]

This is literally hilarious.
(Just because this is so cartoonishly evil I expect people to want more sources: Contains link to actual patent As does this.)

Honestly, I have to ask as there's a few people here who seem to still be okay with (or even excited for--though it's possible I'm misreading and no one wants it) the X-Box One: What actual value does this give to the consumer?

Because I can't find one, anywhere. It seems like having this in your home is nothing but detriment at every point, from privacy concerns with the always on kinect that various outlets have suggested will be used to record advertising data, to every possible service being done in the worst way, to microsoft attempting to completely devour the used game market, to not being able to play single player games without online ('Well you can still watch Blu-Rays. . . and uh, maybe some, game modes, might, possibly work offline').

Like, I can find, literally, no positives here. Even the raw hardware power is worse than the PS4's. Unless the first exclusive causes the X-Box to literally walk across the room and perform oral sex on you (and even then, really), I don't see how these could, in any way, ever make up for these deficiencies. It's like they're a parody of themselves, or trying to kill their console division on purpose or something.

So, I'm curious, as to what positive value anyone can find in this thing.

[Yumil]

Originally Posted by Krylo

So, I'm curious, as to what positive value anyone can find in this thing.

The games should in themselves be cheaper than the ps4 counterparts(unless of course ps4 implements something similar to detriment used games). Part of the reason PC AAA games are 10 dollars cheaper is that they dont have to compete with the used market. Throw in less piracy due to it being a console(though used games hurt that far more than piracy ever did) and you got greater profit margins, which you can use to play with your pricing schemes.

Add to it, I think the XBox one is going to be cheaper than the PS4, possibly even subsidized through some partnership with some cable companies(they are pushing tv a lot) and you might see some "cheap" consoles that you can get with a 2 yr service agreement through timewarner, comcast, or whoever. Plus they may even subsidize them with the advertising revenue they'll make off of em, which is insane if they'll further use the kinect as a marketing tool.

Price doesn't matter to a PC enthusiast, but the common joe will buy it if it's that low. Anywho, not that it matters. My current XBox is used as a media machine. I barely play games on it, I mainly use it as a convenient way to watch stuff from my XBMC uPnP server. Been planning on building/buying an actual htpc, but never got around to it cuz my xbox does it fine.

Gaming wise I'm more interested in the Oculus Rift and how immersive it's going to be when it comes out.

[Revising Ocelot]

Originally Posted by Krylo

So, I'm curious, as to what positive value anyone can find in this thing.

Schadenfreude? Although quite honestly, back in 2006 or so Sony did it better. Crabs and Ridge Racers and all that.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Originally Posted by Krylo

This is literally hilarious.
(Just because this is so cartoonishly evil I expect people to want more sources: Contains link to actual patent As does this.)

That is just... wow. I am stunned at the horror presented here. Now, I'll admit I've never been a fan of the Xbox, but I had outgrown the obsurdity of the whole console wars thing, and was happy to just let things be, until now. Now I actively want this technological monstrosity to fail so hard it causes Microsoft to crash and burn with it.

I don't even care if the ps4 does well or not, so long as the Xbone dies a swift and painful death, and everyone involved in its conception and creation is left to find work at a call centre for the rest of their lives (because working in a call centre is a fate worse than death).

This thing needs to die.

[Aldurin]

But you can earn Achievements by watching TV through your Xbox One! How could you turn that down?

[Sithdarth]

Fuck I made a joke about Netflix needing achievements like 2 weeks ago in front of an Xbox. They totally stole my idea!

[Bells]

im tossig a coin of good faith in this pond to reduce the level of evil to only ``this is more likely a way to detect what ads to charge send to you`` but yeah... no two ways about it, pretty fucking stupid.

i wonder how Sony`s HQ is doing right now... you think they are revising their E3 presentation , seeeing how everything they planned was so much similar to microsft and going ``fuck fuck fuck fuuuuck!!`` over their powerpoints non wstop just to try NOT screw this over?

they just got this generation in a silver platter. They just need to go on a stage, present a bunch of gameplay footage of launch titles, give the console a price ad get off the stage... THATS IT. nothing else is required at this point.

[Loyal]

That is completely appalling. I really hope people aren't planning to buy this for gaming.

[phil_]

Originally Posted by Krylo

What actual value does this give to the consumer?

The continuance if one's Xbox Live profile, and thus the continued value of the time spent accumulating all that Gamer Score and Achievements. Or have they said you need a new profile, since it would be silly to retain epeen for games your Xbox 1 can't even play?