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[Revising Ocelot]

I'm pretty sure the Crab Battle did not involve an actual Giant Enemy Crab. It didn't need giant pincers like a GEC for massive damage.

[Aerozord]

Privacy invasion, well I wont say it doesn't bother me. If not for my conflicting love of google's minimalist approach to interfaces I wouldn't use it. Just I've accepted that we are moving towards a society where privacy is a foreign concept. The only question is how long this will take.

I will say I'm not 100% against them gathering data for advertisements. I do hate them gathering data period, however I do like the idea of advertisements being tailor to me. Cutting out spam and legitimately informing me of products and services I'd like. Thats in theory though. I dont pigeonhole very well and just because I like something doesn't mean I want it advertised. Just saying there is a potential upside if it ever works right. I dont completely hate ads, sometimes commercials are still how I find out about products.

[RobinStarwing]

This...sums everything up.

[Yumil]

So, Microsoft detailed what the DRM on the Xbox One is all about...and it's not that bad, in fact it's kind of awesome in some ways.

So apparently, Your XBox One will be able to play all your games regardless of whos account is on it...that's cool we figured that be how it was. In addition to that you can give up to ten members of your family access to your entire shared game library on any Xbox One and both you and your family members can be playing the same game at the same time. Now that's pretty awesome.

On the resale of games, it has to be turned on by the publisher whether they'll allow it. The publisher also determines the fee the retailer has to pay for the new license.

On trading games to friends. It's again up to the publishers on whether or not they allow this. You can give a game to a friend on your friends list(has to be on your list for at least a month) one time. After this gift, the game can not be traded to that friends friends. It seems that this is to stop loopholes of using this for resale. Thats not quite as cool, but meh.

The main thing I see is it's up to the publisher if they'll allow used games. All Microsoft published titles will be able to be traded/sold, but who knows about the other publishers.

All in all, I think they handled it pretty good. It's not doomsday. Now if you can only turn off the kinect, I may buy an XBone.

[Ramary]

It still requires an internet connection every 24 hours, for consoles that is pretty much cannibalism. Plus just because publishers CAN give the options it doesn't mean they will, just having the ability to do so is fucking disgusting.

What the bloody upchuck happen to one of console's main advantages over PC being "ease of entry and no DRM bullshit"?

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Oh and I bet people will still have to pay that sub thing for online.

God bless Microsoft for giving us the privilege to let us plebeians use the magical space box that watches us sleep.

[mauve]

Originally Posted by Amake

Also we still trust Google, right or wrong, to not be evil, whereas Micro$oft has a, let's be charitable and call it "different" reputation.

Last year Microsoft showed up at a national symposium on computer security to tell the top minds in the fields of data security that password protection on a phone is dumb cuz it takes forever to type in 4 numbers every time your phone locks. Then they couldn't understand why the attendees weren't impressed when they paired the concepts of "no password protection" and "all your private data will be stored on the cloud" in the same sentence for their then-upcoming Windows phone.

The previous speaker, for the record, gave a speech on how easily hacked/exploited cloud storage can be.



...I'm not super excited for the xbox one. I mean, being able to play my game library on multiple machines by multiple users sounds kinda neat, but the always-on camera and the 24 hours check-in thing does not appeal to me. I have a shitty rural internet connection-- my wireless works 75% of the time due to terrible phone lines that my provider sees no benefit to replace due to the small population of the neighborhood, so I kinda doubt the console would work for me anyway.

To be honest, I doubt I'll cough up thecash for ANY of the consoles this generation. I barely used the Wii except for Brawl, New Super Mario Bros Wii, and a handful of other games, so I'm loathe to buy a Wii-u and waste more money unless they can show me a good lineup of non-gimmicky-party-title games. The PS3 didn't have much of a game library compared to the PS2, and the 360/Kinect never appealed. I do most of my gaming on PC now, and no company has convinced me I'm missing out on their products yet.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Originally Posted by Yumil

So, Microsoft detailed what the DRM on the Xbox One is all about...and it's not that bad, in fact it's kind of awesome in some ways.

So apparently, Your XBox One will be able to play all your games regardless of whos account is on it...that's cool we figured that be how it was. In addition to that you can give up to ten members of your family access to your entire shared game library on any Xbox One and both you and your family members can be playing the same game at the same time. Now that's pretty awesome.

On the resale of games, it has to be turned on by the publisher whether they'll allow it. The publisher also determines the fee the retailer has to pay for the new license.

On trading games to friends. It's again up to the publishers on whether or not they allow this. You can give a game to a friend on your friends list(has to be on your list for at least a month) one time. After this gift, the game can not be traded to that friends friends. It seems that this is to stop loopholes of using this for resale. Thats not quite as cool, but meh.

The main thing I see is it's up to the publisher if they'll allow used games. All Microsoft published titles will be able to be traded/sold, but who knows about the other publishers.

All in all, I think they handled it pretty good. It's not doomsday. Now if you can only turn off the kinect, I may buy an XBone.

I think I can speak for the population of the internet when I sarcastically say "Whoop-de-fucking-do!" I'm sure giving up to ten (a whole ten guys!) of my family who have never touched an xbox in their lives the ability to play games will be massively useful to myself and a great many others. Because it was never before possible to simply buy a game and let anybody who uses your console play it, nope.

And I'm so glad that they're allowing everyone to trade each game once after owning it for a month, because again, that shows real progress and growth for the industry as whole. I sure glad they're allowing us this priviledge and we should all be highly grateful for this grounbreaking concept.

And we don't have to be angry at microsoft any more if we can't sell our old games on, because it's now up to each individual publisher if they want to screw us all over, so I guess we get to complain to a dozen more companies instead of just the one who implemented the system in the first place, with no idea beforehand which companies are most likely going to allow us to trade in each game on a case by case basis. But it's okay, because microsoft have passed that buck over early, so they're not to blame any more, right?


Jesus fucking christ.

[Magus]

I have the exact same problem as Mauve, I live out in the middle of nowhere. We didn't have DSL until a year ago, let alone something advanced like cable.

[Flarecobra]

At least for the "Kinect is always watching" thing... got a very easy solution.

Electrical tape.

[Yumil]

Originally Posted by Hawk

I think I can speak for the population of the internet when I sarcastically say "Whoop-de-fucking-do!" I'm sure giving up to ten (a whole ten guys!) of my family who have never touched an xbox in their lives the ability to play games will be massively useful to myself and a great many others. Because it was never before possible to simply buy a game and let anybody who uses your console play it, nope.

And you can still do that. Honestly, I'd like to allow my soon to be nephew access to my library without losing my game to him. Or heck, my brother who is overseas in the military(of course, hed have to have a somewhat stable internet connection>.<). It's a cool feature. And who knows what sort of verification they are going to use, heck maybe you'll get to add anyone to this list and have a sort of gaming circle going on. The details aren't there, but if it's just family I can easily handle that. If it can be anyone that you signify as a "family member", then tell me if you have more than ten friends you load games out to? Cuz being able to loan games out without losing access to the game seems pretty sweet to me.

And I'm so glad that they're allowing everyone to trade each game once after owning it for a month, because again, that shows real progress and growth for the industry as whole. I sure glad they're allowing us this priviledge and we should all be highly grateful for this grounbreaking concept.

You don't even have to own it for a month, just be friends with the person you are giving it to for a month. Honestly, this feature isn't that great, but you can still sell/give a game to a friend.

And we don't have to be angry at microsoft any more if we can't sell our old games on, because it's now up to each individual publisher if they want to screw us all over, so I guess we get to complain to a dozen more companies instead of just the one who implemented the system in the first place, with no idea beforehand which companies are most likely going to allow us to trade in each game on a case by case basis. But it's okay, because microsoft have passed that buck over early, so they're not to blame any more, right?

It's highly likely that Sony is going to do something extremely similar. It's the publishers that have been pushing for this anyway. It's a pretty smart solution to just say hey...ya'll are basically going to do this on your own with your online passes and your other bullshit, here we'll just give you the option to do what you want instead of your haphazard solutions.

Originally Posted by Flarecobra

At least for the "Kinect is always watching" thing... got a very easy solution.

Electrical tape.

Possibly, but if they are going to do that pay per viewer bullshit, more than likely if the kinect doesn't sense anything it'll disable the console til it can.