"Fuck Man" or "We're Talking About The Lord Of The Rings Now" - Page 12

Professor Smarmiarty · 10-04-2011, 04:40 AM

Nah I just found it pretty hilarious when the only reason I started getting more and more ridiculous with my posts was that the counterposts didn't ever address the point I was actually arguing but a completely tangential argument on points that I wasn't addressing and did so in a hilarious wall of text manner. I thought we were doing a straightman/funny man doubleact because their posts were equally ridiculous.
But then the other half of our classic act wrote a tell-all book shattering the illusion and all is ruined, no more will the audience buy into the dream, the theatre of disbelief is dead, the age of reason is at hand.

But anyway...
So them Balrogs. They sure like them wings.

synkr0nized · 10-04-2011, 05:15 AM

It seems I should really read The Silmarillion. The mythos in it seems interesting.

Azisien · 10-04-2011, 11:11 AM

He must be poking fun at biblical times. All the cool shit happens way back before LOTR, so people in the Third Age are all like "man, flying Nazgul is cool I GUESS, but remember the good old days?"

And then no one does, because it was like 10000 years earlier. Even Super Saiyan Gandalf can, what? Shoot a bit of light at Nazgul every so often?

Professor Smarmiarty · 10-04-2011, 05:20 AM

Silmarillion is actually not bad. I didn't really like Lord of the Rings that much but Silmarillion was enjoyable. Its basically like reading a fake set of myths though, you not going to get like a typical novel and character structure but if you're down with what its trying to do its really intersting.

Mr.Bookworm · 10-04-2011, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

Silmarillion is actually not bad. I didn't really like Lord of the Rings that much but Silmarillion was enjoyable. Its basically like reading a fake set of myths though, you not going to get like a typical novel and character structure but if you're down with what its trying to do its really intersting.

I hate to say this but I actually agree with Smarty on this. While I can appreciate the trilogy for what it does, pretty much every single thing in Tolkien's works is far more interesting than the Lord of the Rings trilogy, at least to me.

In the Silmarillion, you have shit

like

this happening all of the damn time, and the epicness of it all in compared to the original trilogy kind of ruins it for me.

Professor Smarmiarty · 10-04-2011, 08:11 AM

Well my problem with LotR is the awful writing style which just turns me off completely whereas in the Silmarillion it meshes better with the subject matter and is less jarring.

Token · 10-04-2011, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

Well my problem with LotR is the awful writing style which just turns me off completely whereas in the Silmarillion it meshes better with the subject matter and is less jarring.

I can get behind this, sort of. Haven't read the Silmarillon because I couldn't bring myself to get through LotR. Finished Two Towers, but when I opened the third one I realized I couldn't bring myself to care. I enjoyed the Hobbit, and could get invested in it, but I couldn't bring myself to give a flying fuck about anyone in two books of LotR, and I doubt the third would change that. Tolkien may be a good writer, but, in my opinion, he is a horrible storyteller.

Ecks · 10-04-2011, 09:10 AM

It doesn't help that I read the books before the movies came out. Massive walls of encyclopedic knowledge, and I'm a freaking speed reader at that, only taking in snippets that have actual relevance. So I tend to miss shit.

Then Jackson does his thing, and then reworks it for the extended editions (holy FUCK the amount of sticking more to Tolkien lore THOSE do), and I go back and read it and it starts to be more "Okay" than "Jesus get to the point already."

Silmarillion though, man, how does a guy write backstory better than his actual story?

Because Christopher is a better writer than John was.

synkr0nized · 10-04-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by EckScizor

Because Christopher is a better writer than John was.

That's not really fair, as it was my understanding all of that information was written down and planned out by Tolkien before he even set out to tell the trilogy. Unless his son re-worked it extensively?

Ecks · 10-04-2011, 11:13 AM

The only people alive from the good old days are Glorfindel and Galadriel (possibly others, memory is fuzzy on this).

10-04-2011, 05:15 AM	#2
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10-04-2011, 04:40 AM	#1
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	Nah I just found it pretty hilarious when the only reason I started getting more and more ridiculous with my posts was that the counterposts didn't ever address the point I was actually arguing but a completely tangential argument on points that I wasn't addressing and did so in a hilarious wall of text manner. I thought we were doing a straightman/funny man doubleact because their posts were equally ridiculous. But then the other half of our classic act wrote a tell-all book shattering the illusion and all is ruined, no more will the audience buy into the dream, the theatre of disbelief is dead, the age of reason is at hand. But anyway... So them Balrogs. They sure like them wings.

10-04-2011, 11:11 AM	#3
Azisien wat Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,177	He must be poking fun at biblical times. All the cool shit happens way back before LOTR, so people in the Third Age are all like "man, flying Nazgul is cool I GUESS, but remember the good old days?" And then no one does, because it was like 10000 years earlier. Even Super Saiyan Gandalf can, what? Shoot a bit of light at Nazgul every so often?

10-04-2011, 05:20 AM	#4
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	Silmarillion is actually not bad. I didn't really like Lord of the Rings that much but Silmarillion was enjoyable. Its basically like reading a fake set of myths though, you not going to get like a typical novel and character structure but if you're down with what its trying to do its really intersting.

10-04-2011, 08:11 AM	#6
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	Well my problem with LotR is the awful writing style which just turns me off completely whereas in the Silmarillion it meshes better with the subject matter and is less jarring.