My Little Pony: Friendship is Mafia

[Solid Snake]

All that information you outed? Helped us get beads on potential mafia and town power. Like that's how we got Hawk as probably power day 1 and how we picked Nikose as scum. Then Day 2 I picked Geminex as probably power, and Ryan and Greed as scum.

So you're saying I'm a bad person because I actually was playing the game seriously as opposed to joking around and not trying to elicit any information whatsoever? What, as Town am I just supposed to vote to lynch in the dark?

I have no idea why you're insinuating that my actions led to Power roles revealing themselves. I never once actively attempted to out power. Like at no point did I say "If you are the PO or the Vig, please respond to this message in this way." I never fished for those roles. It's possible that the PO or Vig or whatever responded to a content-laden post I made in such a way that armed you with an accurate suspicion, but then whose fault is that? My only goal is to spur activity, and it's their responsibility to prevent leaking the nature of their power role in response to my inquiries.



But Snake, everyone is just playing for fun. Stop harassign everyone and criticising their games. We're all just having fun and your game wasn't great.

I like how your passive-aggressive insinuation here is that you're a far better player than I or anyone else here. I'm not harassing anyone. I've deliberately complimented everyone but Verified for at least improving as the game went along. Gem repped me for the criticism I've offered and Sifright seemed to appreciate my insight as well. Some people who play the game actually want to improve their play and be criticized for the mistakes they've made.

As for my confidence, holy shit, Snake doesn't think he's bad at something he happens to be good at, call the police! How dare Snake express an emotion like pride, he should always be self-deprecating! I'm not going to force myself to be modest. I'm a confident Mafia player who believes he knows what he's doing. If you don't like that, fuck off. Although it's really ironic that you of all people are criticizing me for being "arrogant," given that nearly every "serious" post you make in a political thread constitutes the very definition of that same kind of confident arrogance. In other words, pot, you're calling the kettle black.

EDIT: And how the hell am I being "super mean" when I'm doing the exact same thing Fenris and IHMN and others are doing in criticizing play? IHMN called Sifright "stupid" several times over; was that "super mean" of him? Nah, it was accurate. Insinuating that your Mafia play is "stupid" or "poor" is not the same as insinuating that you are stupid or a terrible person. It's like, Smarty, you have political opinions that I consider stupid, but when I half-jokingly mock you for being a communist I am not saying you, Smarty the human being, is an idiot simply for falling far left of me on the political spectrum. The same principle applies here. I'm criticizing people's games, not insulting their honor.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I never said I'm a super mafia player. I don't know where that comes from. I got all my cult killed day 1 ffs! Worst cult leader eva.
But you don't understand the consequences of your d1/d2 strategy. Just cause you never said "Town power please out yourself so the mafia can kill you!" doesn't mean that isn't where your strategy leads.
But seriously Snake chill out, it's just a game.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I never said I'm a super mafia player. I don't know where that comes from. I got all my cult killed day 1 ffs! Worst cult leader eva.
But you don't understand the consequences of your d1/d2 strategy. Just cause you never said "Town power please out yourself so the mafia can kill you!" doesn't mean that isn't where your strategy leads.
But seriously Snake chill out, it's just a game.

Also personal attacks? WTF? Seriously, it's just a game Snake. No need to get catty.

[Geminex]

Guys guys guys
This is a pony mafia, and it has been a great game. I had fun, even when I was out. Let's not spoil that by getting into shit like this in the recap? Some people played better games, some people played worse games. Both smarty and snake have criticized other players, and that is totally fair. It's not meant personally.

C'mon. Be friends. Do it for fluttershy.
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[Professor Smarmiarty]

But I hate ponies. I want to make them cry.

[Solid Snake]

But you don't understand the consequences of your d1/d2 strategy. Just cause you never said "Town power please out yourself so the mafia can kill you!" doesn't mean that isn't where your strategy leads.


If that's where my strategy led, why did Mafia kill a Cultist N1, and how did the PO, the Mayor, and the Vig survive N1 and N2? Naturally if my strategy had such massive downsides to major Town Power roles, one would assume Scum and/or the SK would have easily won this game.

The fact that I play a different D1 strategy than you do does not make it automatically inferior. I prefer lots of D1 activity and logical underpinnings for lynches, you apparently prefer random D1 joke votes leading to lynches. So?

I'd be the first to say my play wasn't perfect and I made a few mistakes, but I also had tons of positive contributions and I'm confident regarding the overall caliber of my play. If you disagree with me, cite specific examples, don't just say "You played a terrible game Snake, what the fuck are you talking about?" because that isn't constructive criticism at all.

[Geminex]

But I hate ponies. I want to make them cry.

Vote: Smarty

[Sifright]

I don't get it though guys, I tried to get voted into pony office running on a platform of cupcakes! Do you guys not like cupcakes?!

[Revising Ocelot]

I hate Ponies.


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[Bard The 5th LW]

Guys, chill. No fighting.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

The Vig would have been culted N1, the mafia n2 and the bodyguard died n2 if the cult didn't die. We had town power in our sights and mafia in our sights. It was only cause we all died n1 that that didn't happen.
And just cause us culties fucked up hard doesn't mean your strategy worked. If the cult hadn't fucked up the thing that didn't happen would have happened. That was exactly what the cult was going to do.
I have given constructive critism. I'm saying drilling up massive amounts of posts on day 1 is incredibly risky because it unleashes lots of information. While this is helpful for the town lyches it is also helpful for the scum and depending upon the distribution of roles it can be more helpful to scum than to town. That really depends on how many scum power roles are floating around whether this is good on not.
It's not a difficult thing I'm saying here but you missi t eveyr time.

I never advocated d1 "joke votes" and I never have. You just like to strawman them as joke votes.

But I don't need to have this argument anymore. It's a fun game. You making it not fun. So I'mgoing to focus on kicking ponies.

Vote:No Lynch

[Nikose Tyris]

Early on, I outlined everyone's suspected roles in a PM to my fellow mafiates. I got RO incorrect, and I got Snake incorrect. I believe I had everyone else spot-on, excluding the labelling the CMC's as "Vanilla".

Also lawl 3 day 1 public accusations correct to the point of annoying Fenris.

Also lawl RO posting challenging my PO claim right after I got told "Dude what the hell the PO can just counterclaim and call you ou- ooooohhhhh" And I laughed.

Also I had a broken computer and essentially no way to continue posting in the game actively, so I started acting scummy to draw more attention to me, and essentially mafia-bomb. I had my fingers crossed that RO's whole "He's a jester" thing would pay off for me and that someone would nightkill me- it would make my very neutral/positive pony name seem that much more beneficial, and it would make my day 3 claim better.

Then Gregness posted and I wasn't able to reply adequately to his challenges. XD I swear I had a good response, but you bested me this game, my friend!

[Professor Smarmiarty]

After you called me out Day 1 I totally tried to give you cult hypnotism with my mind!
I hope it worked.

[Geminex]

Yo, experienced ones.
How could I have improved my game? I thought I was doing okay at hiding my role, and apparently snake thought well of my townie efforts (tragically cut short), but I'd value some constructive criticism.

[Solid Snake]

It's not a difficult thing I'm saying here but you missi t eveyr time.

I "miss it every time" because the nature of your criticism is not remotely constructive.

First: Merely saying "your preferred style of play has different strengths and weaknesses depending on the exact layout of scum and town power" is completely different than the "you played a terrible game Snake what the hell are you talking about?" post you initially made. The former is a calculated risk I'll take nearly every time to match my preferred playstyle. The latter is an insult that leads us nowhere if it's unsupported.

Second: If you think I played a terrible game and want to support the accusation in a way that doesn't seem petty, give me a concrete example. Instead of saying "Snake you totally gave Cult all this information but I'm not going to tell you exactly what you leaked," say, "Snake, remember when you said X in post #123? Well, as Cult Leader I was able to use Hawk's response to that comment to determine that Hawk was Vig."
The latter is constructive; it's a statement that definitively articulates exactly how I fucked up in a way that actually supports a thesis that yeah, maybe I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.

The former is just an insult laced with enough vague ambiguities that I can't even counter it. If you just say "Snake, you were terrible, THE END," there's no way to defend myself because I don't even know what specific mistake I made. And the alternative -- that my playstyle was merely risky, but not necessarily "inferior" -- does absolutely nothing to support a conclusion that I played an awful game.

[Nikose Tyris]

Smarty: It totally did. I've secretly been cult and trying to mess up everyone's game the whole time! :D

Gem: You did fine. I usually utterly disregard my role in every way- I don't have 'special knowledge' or a special power, but people sure as heck suspected me of THINGS the whole game- and not everyone thought it was mafia. Actually, up until Day 3 very few people thought it was mafia.

I sincerely hope there are no lasting sorepoints because of this game, with anyone at all.

[Sifright]

Smarty: It totally did. I've secretly been cult and trying to mess up everyone's game the whole time! :D

Gem: You did fine. I usually utterly disregard my role in every way- I don't have 'special knowledge' or a special power, but people sure as heck suspected me of THINGS the whole game- and not everyone thought it was mafia. Actually, up until Day 3 very few people thought it was mafia.

I sincerely hope there are no lasting sorepoints because of this game, with anyone at all.

See I don't understand how that happened I had you pegged as mafia day 2. I just couldn't see how others weren't seeing it.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I've told you how you outed the vig. It wasn't in one of your posts. Lrn to read. FFS.
Like I could go through and find the exact hawk.gem posts that outed him but that is irrelevant in this conversation because I'm not talking to them. I'm saying you got everyone to post which gave us hepas of information. Information the cult can use to fuck everyone. It doesn'tmatter what information they gave.
I also said your game wasn't great, i never said it was bad. The only use of "terrible" was reusing your "terrible" which means, I'm Snake and don't like how you play. Also I make ponies cry.

[Oron]

I honestly enjoyed your behavior while you were in the game, Nik. It threw so many people off because somebody (like Sif) would say, "He's totally scum," and then someone else (like RPG) would go, "Wait, what if he's the Jester?" I kept reading that and chuckling, saying to myself, "No-ooo, mafia doesn't have a Jester," and Fenris' first post clearly states that self-aligned roles win by being the last player in the game, so a Jester couldn't be self-aligned.

[Nikose Tyris]

@Snake: You played excellently, but I had you pegged as a scum role since day 1. And you weren't scum. Fillibustering [fuckin lol] draws attention to yourself, and mafia is more about finding that perfect mix of 'remaining active and participating' and "don't look at me don't look at me DON'T LOOK AT ME", regardless of character role.

You post in a different color, came into the game with a theme [albeit a very Town-esque theme] and posted super long messages.

It's one of those "He's RIGHT THERE let's just get him" factors. Going after the biggest target, if you will.

[Nikose Tyris]

@Oron: Aww, Thanks. ^^ I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm a bit rusty, but I really enjoyed this mafia game. Sorry for what feels like me losing the entire game for the mafia though!

[Professor Smarmiarty]

That would have been fine if he didn't beat eveyrone else into posting too. Like it did work out for town but its a very risky strategy.
As long as he acknowledges that and stops berating everyone else I'm fine.

Nikose: You only lost it for the mafia because of my sweet cult hypnosis rays. I took you guys down with me!

[Bard The 5th LW]

Nik was sorta akin to a clown at the eye of a storm in terms of how bizarre he was. Like, I was certain that we'd have to throw him to the dogs eventually, but he continuously managed to throw everyone off kilter. I was scum to but even i was almost convinced by him!

[Geminex]

Mind you, even if more activity doesn't necessarily make a town win more likely, it does make for a much more enjoyable game. I mean, we got 1460 posts. We had an incompetent mare, a derping genius and a bunch of other developments, much more dynamic, than we would have had with a slower-paced game. And I think the game was better for it.

Edit: And bard, I totally sniffed you out.

[Solid Snake]

I've told you how you outed the vig. It wasn't in one of your posts. Lrn to read. FFS.
Like I could go through and find the exact hawk.gem posts that outed him but that is irrelevant in this conversation because I'm not talking to them. I'm saying you got everyone to post which gave us hepas of information. Information the cult can use to fuck everyone.


If that's the extent of your criticism, then my response is simply that I'd take the exact same calculated risk every time, because Town needs more information much, much more than Scum or Cult does, given the respective positions and knowledge disparities of Mafia, Cult and Town in the beginning of the game.

And I don't think you're quite grasping the irony of the fact that, in judging my game as "not great" (or "terrible," whichever wording you'd prefer) you're making the exact same judgment of me that you're criticizing me of making in others. Only, well, in your case you haven't even supported your criticism of me with facts, so it just initially seems less authentic and more petty.

Like, half of your argument against me seems to be "Snake, don't tell other Mafia players they played a terrible game, this is just for fun," and then the other half is "By the way, you played a terrible game. And I won't even tell you what you did wrong or how you could have improved. You were just awful" (with the implicit assumption that because you can judge my playstyle as poor, you must be better and the very same kind of 'great' player you're chastising me for being confident in being.)

Do you see the inherent contradiction there? If you're going to criticize my play I think it's fair of me to ask that you at least do the same thing I try to do when I criticize others, which is justify my perspectives with some articulation of "what went wrong." In Sifright's and Earl's cases, the exact nature of their mistakes have been reflected on by everyone tenfold, but in my case the extent of the criticism appears to have been "I have no idea what the fuck you were up to D1," which is pretty much what I intended.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Snake how simple do I have to make this?
You didn't know the distribution of power roles Day 1. Thus getting infromation from everyone is dangerous.
How am I not articualtiong? The entire extent of my problem is that the mass information dumps that you propogated day 1 are dangerous.
I know what you were up to. I know what your plan was. It is not a complex web of deciet. It is getting information from everyone to hep town make their lynch decision and prevent low activity mafia while also casting yourself in a suspect light so you don't get night targeted cause scum will feel confident they can lynch.

And there is a difference between saying "Snake didn't play the most amazing game on the face of the planet thus allowing him to criticise others" and "Everyone except me was playing terribly on day 1".
And their are two halves of my argument. 1) You don't need to criticise everyone so harsly. And 2) even if you did your position is not as solid as you think it is.
My position is very very simple snake. I have articulated it over and over.
I'm out. You are not reading my posts. I don't care anymore.

Mind you, even if more activity doesn't necessarily make a town win more likely, it does make for a much more enjoyable game. I mean, we got 1460 posts. We had an incompetent mare, a derping genius and a bunch of other developments, much more dynamic, than we would have had with a slower-paced game. And I think the game was better for it.
That is true. And fun is more important than anything So thanks for that Snake.
Criticism revoked! Us cults are totally fickle.
Like the one day I was alive was pretty sweet.

Man this has to be a record for mafia posts.

[Geminex]

Like the one day I was alive was pretty sweet.

Nah. You totally stank the place up. Like wow, do you cultists take a vow never to bathe or something?

[Solid Snake]

@Snake: You played excellently, but I had you pegged as a scum role since day 1. And you weren't scum. Fillibustering [fuckin lol] draws attention to yourself, and mafia is more about finding that perfect mix of 'remaining active and participating' and "don't look at me don't look at me DON'T LOOK AT ME", regardless of character role.

You post in a different color, came into the game with a theme [albeit a very Town-esque theme] and posted super long messages.

It's one of those "He's RIGHT THERE let's just get him" factors. Going after the biggest target, if you will.

Everything you just described was entirely intentional on my part, and something I wanted to play to my advantage as I wanted people to lead lynches on me (and I wanted you as scum to basically do exactly what you did in outing yourself by going after me.)

Like, that's just the thing, this is a difference in Smarty and I's perspectives in playing the game. Because I like being an active Mafia player I don't mind turning the spotlight on me and getting everyone to post in a frenzy. The activity benefits my own personal analyses, which let me go 5 of 7 in serious suspicions D1. It also lets the game revolve around me, which is precisely what I want when I attempt this playstyle; I dictate the pace because I can handle the consequences.

My biggest error was believing that this would all actually lead Scum to want to keep me around, because they'd perceive me as an easy lynch target. Which is precisely what I want because there's no other alternative with me; given my reputation as a decent Mafia player and a smart lawyer guy, either I act scummy enough to be kept alive or I'm killed as a potential threat almost immediately. No one's going to buy a version of Snake that's inactive or that doesn't post Walls of Text. So either I play as a perfectly productive, uncontroversial Townie with accurate suspicions (who gets killed very quickly) OR I drudge up enough controversy that Scum keeps me alive, all the while 'hiding' my real feelings in a few serious posts that some folks might pick up on.

Like the whole 'suspecting Nikose / turning on IHMN' thing was a hugely controversial bluff designed merely to see how everyone would react. It was risky, sure. But it wasn't stupid so long as Scum thought "Well, so long as Snake is that crazy, we can keep him alive as opposed to killing him despite his walls of activity D1." And that's what I wanted: I wanted Scum to feel they didn't have to hang me N1. (Because given my playstyle, when I'm Town, I am only too often killed N1.)

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Nah. You totally stank the place up. Like wow, do you cultists take a vow never to bathe or something?

Bathing is unholy.

And Snake, from the cult perspective your strategy worked quite well. I wouldn't have pushed for a kill of you. But that's because I also like having lots of information to pick targets- having similar success in picking as you did picking scum. Probably would have culted you eventually somepoint though.

[Solid Snake]

And there is a difference between saying "Snake didn't play the most amazing game on the face of the planet thus allowing him to criticise others" and "Everyone except me was playing terribly on day 1".


Uhh, well, the "everyone except me was playing terribly on Day 1 until I showed up" tidbit was poorly worded on my end. What I meant to say was something more along the lines of, "Given my preferred playstyle I'm sure glad I showed up and ruffled a few feathers D1; even if you disliked my half-joking insults, they spurred (what I believe to be) a desirable result in increased activity."

Plenty of people ended up playing solid games. IHMN (and not me) was definitely the game's MVP, and I gave Gem a well-deserved second place. Any insinuation to the contrary was not intended.

[Bard The 5th LW]

gem we both know you were just being kooky.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Smarty.
Stop posting.

I mean, Day 1 I was all for not getting serious and coming down on Snake for getting all up with the righteous fury. But post game? With compliments and solid critique? That's not being a jerk, he's trying to help the players who didn't do well this game do better next time.

[Geminex]

gem we both know you were just being kooky.
Pfft. I kneeeeew you were up to something. MY K33N NOS3 D3T3CTS 4LL CR1M1N4LS.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Can it sniff out hypnobeams?

[Revising Ocelot]

MY K33N NOS3 D3T3CTS 4LL CR1M1N4LS.

Oron would be all "honk HONK honk HONK" and you'd be all "TOWN13 TOWN13 1T'S OBV1OUS3 S1FR1GHT'S TH3 P3P3RTR4TOR TRY1NG TO FR4M3 H1M" were it not for me. >:[

[Sifright]

honk honk

[Geminex]

Can it sniff out hypnobeams?
It wouldn't need to, I can just follow your body odor.
Theory: Cult died in night one because they smelled awful and nobody wanted them around.

Oron would be all "honk HONK honk HONK" and you'd be all "TOWNI3 TOWNI3 IT'S OBVIOUSLY SIFRIGHT'S TH3 P3P3RTR4TOR TRYING TO FR4M3 HIM" were it not for me. >:[

SHOOOOOOOSH

[Oron]

He's right, you know.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Also I knew from late day 1 Snake probably wasn't Mafia. Was still open to the idea of it, but I didn't think it likely. I guess what it came down to was that his rants were trying to get everyone to think rather than just instructing them what to think, which stuck out as townie favoring.

Didn't matter what Nikose was, need to lynch that fucker early or he causes chaos regardless of his role.

Sif, you were making me facepalm on a damn near tridaily basis early on. But you pulled through to the end. Good job, Doc.

Knew RPG was scum when he pushed for Sif's lynch even if I'd suspected before. Didn't think I could properly force the lynch through at that point though.

Also I'm in love with the fact that despite my claim literally nothing ever tested it properly.
Sif got investigated but that wasn't quite damming for me since I could pass it off as him lying without a connection to me. But even still, no kill attempts at all. If I'd been a townie just plain bullshitting I'd have laughed the whole way through the game.

I guess it was just because you replaced Ramary who's a good friend of mine, but I was always pretty trusting of RO from the start. Once he pulled the investigator card I stuck with that gut feeling, and I'm glad I did.


IHMN.
You magnificent motherfucking bastard.
At a certain point I was so sure you were being too helpful I almost joined in on your lynch, but the sweet smell of Cockatrice for dinner kept my vote on RPG.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

But ponies all smell awful. Like go to a farm sometime you guys

[Geminex]

Our ponies smell of frienship and flowers and magic and cupcakes and rainbows and magic.

Don't know what weird ponies you've been meeting with. They were probably all in your cult, though.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Actual ponies.

[IHateMakingNames]

I didn't know anything till Gregness claimed Rarity. Before that I was trying to get people to accept Karesh/Sifright/Snake/maybe others as townie to get a voting block going. After the claim, all I really did was decide that Nikose/Ryanderman were mafia, then later Bard/greed (Bard died at night), then tried to make everyone bend to my will since I couldn't actually explain things. Also constantly press for a role claim to make the mafia members counter the townies so people would suspect them, and I knew we had a really good majority.

[Ravashak]

Well, it WAS easy just mindlessly obeying the gifs =)

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I'm pretty sure if I was still alive I'd mindlessly obey the gifs even as nontown. They strangely convincing

[Bard The 5th LW]

I don't know if the Gifs worked for or against you really. They sort of exaggerated your points and made them mores noticeable and also justified you giving little explanation. on the other hand though, you couldn't explain anything!

[Ravashak]

Would be interesting, demanding a roleclaim, then you just coming out you're the cult leader, would probably raise a couple eyebrows

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

I didn't know anything till Gregness claimed Rarity. Before that I was trying to get people to accept Karesh/Sifright/Snake/maybe others as townie to get a voting block going. After the claim, all I really did was decide that Nikose/Ryanderman were mafia, then later Bard/greed (Bard died at night), then tried to make everyone bend to my will since I couldn't actually explain things. Also constantly press for a role claim to make the mafia members counter the townies so people would suspect them, and I knew we had a really good majority.

Interpretation was pretty damn hard at times, but it must have been even worse for you watching all our stupid little discussions about what the fuck you were trying to say.
I think at least three times I just completely got it wrong and if everyone had listened to what I thought you meant we'd be fucked.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

But it's a nice cult. I would just convince you all to join. If we take down the mafia then just cult everyone without death everyone wins!
Super happy cult.

[Revising Ocelot]

But what does your cult think about stairs, hospitals and Ayn Rand?

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

You had a lucky shot Hawk.

Actually you were a pretty logical choice for night 3, perhaps the only logical choice I made all game.

Like, N1 the only thing I had to go on was Snakes reasoning about Bob, because I had nothing else myself, and according to the mafia wiki the best thing for a vig with no suspicions to do is hit inactives anyway. I also wanted to see what Snake would say if Bob turned up town.

N2 things didn't go so well, seeing as the days lynch was wasted with the override. So, as the element of loyalty, I felt it best to simply stick with the majority vote on Fawful. I essentially acted as the lynch that day, whilst Aldurin acted as the random vig kill.

N3 was easier; RPG was already suspected of being the SK, and there was talk of letting him live long enough to hit more mafia, Aldurin was confirmed town, Greg confirmed himself when he outed Nikose, IHMN was, well, IHMN, Karesh and Sif were practically confirmed at that point, though I still had reservations about Sif, Verifiedz was never really a threat, RO I had nothing to suspect as he was a replacement so was probably town, which pretty much left Bard, Ryan, Greed and Oron, of which Ryan and Greed were already drawing lynch attention.

So it was really just a 50/50 split between the 2 then. The final decision came when I looked at the numbers for each player on the main list, I figured it was unlikely the mafia would all be down the bottom so I went straight to the top.

I'm still curious as to what it was that outed me as a power though. I really didn't think I was that obvious/threatening.

[Oron]

I honestly figured "Fenris is probably the type to give Hawk the Rainbow Dash role because of his avatar" at the beginning and Rainbow Dash happened to be the Vig. Then as the game went on, the list of possible players with power roles narrowed until you were basically one of three choices for Vig. At least, that's how it seemed to me. I think Nik pegged you as a power role during Day 2 as well.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

My cult mind reading powers.
If its a big issue I can reread day 1 because I really don't remember right now it was ages ago.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

I did consider changing my avatar when the game started, but that would have been just as suspicious really. It probably didn't help when Nik talked about how Snake was probably Pinkie either, because the next logical choice was me and RD. Me and Snake are probably the most vocal about who our favourites are and Niks comments on D1 did have me pretty worried at first.

Although Fenris' PM only said I was a lucky motherfucker for getting my favourite pony, so I assume it was just random luck there.

[Solid Snake]

I did consider changing my avatar when the game started, but that would have been just as suspicious really. It probably didn't help when Nik talked about how Snake was probably Pinkie either, because the next logical choice was me and RD. Me and Snake are probably the most vocal about who our favourites are and Niks comments on D1 did have me pretty worried at first.

I was incredibly disappointed that I was not Pinkie Pie, to be honest.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I just had a hunch that Either RpG, hawk, or gregness had a kill role due to the targets made and their level of activity/what they participated. you seemed to lay a little low, and I think you tried to lynch fawful? Those details made me think you had a chance at it since there we already knew several other roles.

[Nikose Tyris]

Didn't matter what Nikose was, need to lynch that fucker early or he causes chaos regardless of his role.

Pretty much this is the most important thing.

[Fenris]

The only role that wasn't randomly assigned was IHMN's.

[rpgdemon]

(Though I still don't know why RPG claimed the obvious SK role, and his more assertive behavior was definitely something I noted as a sign he was likely anti-Town. And I'm mentioning Oron and Bard there because based on their public posts I felt they played a better game than Greed -- who was too inactive in a way that felt obviously scummy as early as D1 and D2 -- and Ryanderman, who was legitimately called out on some slippage.)

I claimed SK since I was hoping people would believe the flipping bit, and also since it was pretty much legitimately unwinnable for me because of how Fenris made the untargettable person unlynchable accidentally. My next day would have gone, "I've been roleblocked!", and then I'd have to keep coming up with tenuous excuses as to why I'm not dead, also, keep lynching people who aren't me. Until just me and Karesh remain.

Also, I didn't kill Snake! That was totally Fenris's fault! I went for Nikose the night Snake got killed, and Fenris forgot and thought I said Snake.

[Fenris]

IHMN is totes MVP.

Everybody roleclaimed their proper roles - Mafia was Bard, Nikose, Greed, Ryanderman, and Oron.

I gave cult the limitation of being unable to recruit mafiates (although they didn't know that), so I gave them two additional cultists. Totally didn't matter, though. They were SMB, Bob, and P_sleazy.

RPG was the SK. He could also not convert to town, and if you guys had voted no lynch, you would have been idiots.

Verifiedz wasn't even trying.

My roles:

The mafia had a special power that they could bring any non-mafiate back from the moon, if all of them were alive. Nikose confided in me that he was trying to get them to lynch Snake just so they could bring him back and confuse errybody. The purpose of this ability was for obfuscation. It was obviously never utilized.

Solid Snake was Zecora, who was NOT a miller, but a witch doctor. She could bring back anybody who was petrified or lost in the everfree forest. Then both happened to him night 2 so he wasn't able to do that, either.

Fun fact, is that I fucked up and accidentally sent RPG after Snake that night due to a pretty egregious typo in my notes. He had actually targetted Nikose that night, but was totes cool with me fucking that up.

The Cutie Mark Crusaders could attempt to mimic investigative, protective, and roleblocking powers each night. They had a chance of failure. 75% success if all 3 were alive (then Bookie got expelled), 50% if 2 were alive (the rest of the game), and 25% if only one remained. Funnily enough, they succeeded in protecting Revolving that last night, but greed 1) targetted Sifright, and 2) was roleblocked anyway.

Fawfulcopter was Pinkie Pie, who had a one-shot ability to cancel all night roles by throwing a huge party. He never did shit with it.

Fluttershy was immune to night roles - had he been investigated, I would have said something like "You don't even trust your good friend Fluttershy?" without giving role information. He was town, regardless.

Also, I had originally planned for the Whooves character to know the identity of a mafiate, but I decided last minute that was OP so I picked a random town-power. I then picked the worst possible town-power.

IHMN rocked the hell out of the Derpy Hooves role. No regrets in assigning that role to him.

Aldurin should never be let near a power role again. After that, the game was pretty much won for the mafia, but dumb luck pretty much fucked them over. The night before, RO successfully pegged greed, then Nikose got lynched, and then Bard and Ryander got hit. That night, RO also successfully pegged Oron, so the entire mafia was either killed or investigated in 36 game hours.

Then RPG roleclaimed cockatrice wtf

Oh, there were absolutely no vanillas in this game. Vanillas are stupid.

Man, you fuckers ask for a GM commentary/review of the game and then ignore it when I spend a good 45 minutes typing it up.

Thanks a lot.

[Solid Snake]

Man, you fuckers ask for a GM commentary/review of the game and then ignore it when I spend a good 45 minutes typing it up.

Thanks a lot.

I didn't ignore it!

[rpgdemon]

Man, you fuckers ask for a GM commentary/review of the game and then ignore it when I spend a good 45 minutes typing it up.

Thanks a lot.

I read it! But no one responded to the fact that I was an awesome super cool dude with having my nightkill botched!