MASS EFFECT TWO: GIVE GARRUS A HUG - Page 7

Solid Snake · 02-03-2010, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Funka Genocide

You might be positive, but you're wrong.

Okay, so tell me my definition is wrong, but don't directly accuse me of being sexist?
I mean my incentive here now is pretty much 100% "I don't want to be known as the guy on NPF who's sexist," with a fair dash of indignation over the fact that I've somehow been accused of being sexist in the context of making an argument against an arguably sexist portrayal of women. It's just kind of aggravating when that happens.

So if DFM's disgusted with me for having the wrong interpretation of feminism, tainted by a poor scholar or two during my undergraduate studies, that's legit. But when he phrases it as "I'm disgusted with you, Solid Snake!" the implication sounds a bit like he's offended with me because he thinks I'm sexist, and from my perspective, in the context of my original posts about finding the Gentleman's Club and the Asari Consort ludicrous it's about the last kind of response I expected. To be honest I didn't even think about using the term feminist that much, it was sort of like I want to attack Mass Effect's portrayal of women here, but I don't want to be seen as acting like a militant I-hate-men jerk about it, so I'll just include that disclaimer beforehand.

Azisien · 02-03-2010, 04:44 PM

SO ANYWAY THOSE MASS EFFECT GAMES, PRETTY GOOD STUFF HUH?

ALSO AFTER MUCH DISCUSSION I HAVE DOWNGRADED IT TO 9.9/10. NOTHING'S PERFECT.

Raiden · 02-03-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Azisien

SO ANYWAY THOSE MASS EFFECT GAMES, PRETTY GOOD STUFF HUH?

ALSO AFTER MUCH DISCUSSION I HAVE DOWNGRADED IT TO 9.9/10. NOTHING'S PERFECT.

NO DAMN YOU, KEEP IT AT A PERFECT 10. YOU KNOW WHY!?

BECAUSE YOU GET TO PUNCH A REPORTER IN THE FACE.

IN
THE
GODDAMN
FACE.

IT'S LIKE GETTING TO BE BRUCE WILLIS, IF HE WERE IN SPACE AND SHOOTING LASERS.

Krylo · 02-03-2010, 04:58 PM

To be fair, only the one heavy weapon actually shoots lasers.

Edit: Also, Morinth > Samara. AI Hacking for organics. Awesome.

Funka Genocide · 02-03-2010, 04:59 PM

Bruce Willis did go to space and shoot lasers.

5th Element HELLO?!

Krylo · 02-03-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Funka Genocide

Bruce Willis did go to space and shoot lasers.

5th Element HELLO?!

AND IT WAS AWESOME!

Melfice · 02-03-2010, 05:03 PM

Goddammit, Raiden.
Now I have to make a Bruce Willis character for another character. Just because I can and it'd be pretty sweet.
Thanks a lot.

Also, the Cain is a pretty cool weapon.
Silly. Impractical, unless you know you'll have time to charge the bloody thing.
But cool nonetheless.

Krylo · 02-03-2010, 05:51 PM

Thane's loyalty mission as renegade is pretty awesome. "Taking hostages only works if your adversaries care if they live."

Mirai Gen · 02-03-2010, 06:39 PM

I'm still not sure how I feel about the removal of the equipment. It simplifies the game but almost to a criminal level. Gonna think about this more.

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

...Am I missing something there? Because to me saying "I'm not a feminist" means "I'm not a card-carrying member of NOW raging against how men are asinine, corrupted forces of destruction, and women are far more intelligent, far more capable and men should be constantly reminded of their evils."

This is an incorrect view of feminism, SS. Feminism is just searching for equal rights. Many of the feminists you're referring to are what make a bad image for the others - it's akin to suggesting that every single animal rights activist be psychotic cow-hugging nutjobs with an obsession on repainting every meat-eating person as a mass-murderer. "I'm not an animal rights activist, but I hate it when animals are treated cruelly," for example.

The sentence probably could have gone like "I'm not normally sensitive or oversensitive to that sort of thing, but it rubbed me the wrong way."

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here because I've met about four hundred million people who still view feminists this way, and the word you're looking for is 'radicalist.'

Solid Snake · 02-03-2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mirai Gen

"I'm not an animal rights activist, but I hate it when animals are treated cruelly," for example.

You see, maybe I'm really fucking weird, but I'd have no problem whatsoever hearing that and concluding that the speaker wasn't insinuating anything about hating animals, but was simply saying he disapproved of the way animals were treated here despite not being, for example, a card-carrying member of PETA.

(It all depends on how you define feminist, too -- despite considering the sexes equal, it's not as if I can claim I've lobbied extensively over the matter or made gender equality a personal crusade. If you define feminism more on one's actions than one's beliefs, I don't think I'm alone in not fitting the definition.)

Anyway, what's done is done, I feel bad for hijacking the thread over it. I just hate the fact that I have this really strange knack for pissing people off, and it seems to happen too often here, and it's almost never intentional. Maybe I just don't take criticism well, or maybe a few posters here just dislike me.

02-03-2010, 04:58 PM	#64
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	To be fair, only the one heavy weapon actually shoots lasers. Edit: Also, Morinth > Samara. AI Hacking for organics. Awesome. __________________ I am very tired. Last edited by Krylo; 02-03-2010 at 05:01 PM.

02-03-2010, 05:51 PM	#68
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	Thane's loyalty mission as renegade is pretty awesome. "Taking hostages only works if your adversaries care if they live." __________________ I am very tired.

02-03-2010, 04:44 PM	#62
Azisien wat Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,177	SO ANYWAY THOSE MASS EFFECT GAMES, PRETTY GOOD STUFF HUH? ALSO AFTER MUCH DISCUSSION I HAVE DOWNGRADED IT TO 9.9/10. NOTHING'S PERFECT.

02-03-2010, 04:59 PM	#65
Funka Genocide Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,566	Bruce Willis did go to space and shoot lasers. 5th Element HELLO?!

02-03-2010, 05:03 PM	#67
Melfice Vigilo - Confido Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,846	Goddammit, Raiden. Now I have to make a Bruce Willis character for another character. Just because I can and it'd be pretty sweet. Thanks a lot. Also, the Cain is a pretty cool weapon. Silly. Impractical, unless you know you'll have time to charge the bloody thing. But cool nonetheless.