Bye

[Gregness]

Originally Posted by Bard The 5th LW

Greg, no one's treating it like its fucking krystallnacht 2.0
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*ahem*

Originally Posted by Kim

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You're all fucking scum.

Originally Posted by POS Industries

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...then 1) you are enabling the behavior of the worst sorts of people and 2) fuck you for doing so.

I'm not leaving until you make me.

Originally Posted by Sweet

...I don't feel welcome here... *snip* ...Fuck this. I'm going back to twitter. If you want to stay in touch, message Marc and ask for my twitter handle. Otherwise, bye.

Originally Posted by POS Industries

*snip* ...they no longer feel safe here.

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Originally Posted by Kim

I am coming back long enough to say that while I am glad RMB is gone for good for being a racist fuck... Those are some fucked priorities... It causes me grief and guilt... I am still angry. I am still disgusted...

Originally Posted by Amake

I for one am glad RMB finally managed to give away what a disgusting person he is in a way that the staff was able to ban him for without bending on our rigid rule of law that'd be better suited to a community a hundred times bigger than this. And we only lost, what, a third of the best and brightest...

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My expectations are just that low.

Originally Posted by Marc v4.0

I understand the need for levity and all that, but some horseshit just drove my wife and girlfriend away from a forums we used to enjoy and love a great deal, perhaps the right place for it isn't in the middle of their goodbye thread.

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

...Shitty Mod decision was shitty.

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Insofar as Kim is really genuinely hurt by all this, I will say I'm offended by you fuckwads all bein' like "Let's INJECT SOME ~*LEVITY*~ into this shit ... Kim's a precious friend and you don't get to pretend you have the privilege to eradicate her feelings because they mildly inconvenience you.

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Yep, clearly I'm imagining things.

Originally Posted by Bard The 5th LW

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...they're just pissed off about it and expressing it, I think you are deliberately misconstruing the attitudes, language, and reactions of those involved.

What misconstructions specifically are you accusing me of?

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Hey, that's a nifty little feature that tells me there's been responses while I was writing all that.

I guess only if you want to be part of a group that can help people feel safe who usually don't feel very safe? Though that sounds pretty good to me.

People feeling safe isn't my responsibility, and I fundamentally can't control whether someone feels safe around me or not. I can be as sweet as humanly possible and someone with one of those learned, fearful mindsets will never be fully convinced. The only person who controls how you feel is you. I can influence someone feeling unsafe, as if I sent a threatening pm implying that I knew where they lived or something...

Okay, so I dipped back a little into what Nique was saying earlier about physical safety vs 'safe space' which is making this pretty annoying. Are you meaning physical safety there Amake? As I said earlier, I think the 'safe space' (i.e. this is a safe space to let out all your problems, we're here to help not judge, etc.) sort of safety is hugely important for people to have, and actually undesirable in this kind of public discussion forum.

This is not the place for it. That we keep trying to make it one is what keeps leading to these misunderstandings I think.

The 'safe space' discussion maybe deserves its own thread?