Concerning Mining, Crafting, Serving, Fifthfiending

[Arhra]

The output chest is double sized and it still takes time to fill all that with full stacks. More chests can always be added too, to fill up in series.

Why don't you just output any overflow into a lava pit, like a sensible person?

[Aldurin]

Why don't you just output any overflow into a lava pit, like a sensible person?

Yeah, suck it up and go primitive for one part of your machine.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Why don't you just output any overflow into a lava pit, like a sensible person?

For diamonds? Are you completely mad?

[Arhra]

Uh, wasn't it the cobblestone generator getting backed up that was the problem?

COBBLESTONES ARE NOT DIAMONDS!

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

I wasn't talking about the cobble in the post you quoted. In fact I'm not even using cobble anymore anyway, since the generator broke on me for no reason. I just have 2 hv arrays running the mass fab now.

[Doc ock rokc]

I went back to world in The vanilla server and HOLY SHIT is it torn to hell
the main base has been ransacked and the portals on top have been destroyed.

[Flarecobra]

Goddamn griefers.

[Marc v4.0]

Oh happy day! (http://www.mojang.com/2012/02/14/new-minecraft-map-format-anvil/)

[Fifthfiend]

I went back to world in The vanilla server and HOLY SHIT is it torn to hell
the main base has been ransacked and the portals on top have been destroyed.

Lol no sorry that was all me, I am remodeling. I just uh.... am not sure how I am remodeling, quite yet.

The portals are at spawn.

[Marc v4.0]

and then fifthfiend was the griefers

[Fifthfiend]

In a sense we WERE griefed, by my uncertainty and dissatisfaction!

Indeed these things cause me grief every day!

[Fifthfiend]

In other news, http://www.mojang.com/2012/02/14/new-minecraft-map-format-anvil/

4096 block ids is gonna be like christmas for modders.

[Marc v4.0]

In other news, http://www.mojang.com/2012/02/14/new-minecraft-map-format-anvil/

4096 block ids is gonna be like christmas for modders.

Oh happy day! (http://www.mojang.com/2012/02/14/new-minecraft-map-format-anvil/)

.

[Marc v4.0]

So, Fifth.

EE has finally released for SMP, and so it will be included in Tekkit when they finish getting it all ironed out.

I highly suggest you disable to fuck out of it

[Thadius]

I highly suggest you don't.

ALCHEMY BAGS alone are worth the trouble.

The tools are highly dangerous, yes.

Wait, idea.

Let's let Sith stress test the fuck out of the server with EE and report back his findings as to if the test server can or should withstand it.

[Marc v4.0]

it isn't really a matter of server load or something, it is a matter of it being horribly unbalanced unlike anything else there is, and the tools aren't just dangerous but likely to just cause ruin and arguments

[Thadius]

...Praytell. How are our CURRENT means of bringing ruin to each other any different?

The mining laser is the first thing to come to mind. Followed closely by the nuke. And an overheated nuclear reactor.

And people glitching the fuck out of blocks to turn copper into uranium.

Also, let us not forget that with SCIENCE we can ascend and become gods among men, requiring neither food nor air nor someone to put us out when we step in lava. Why not allow those that believe in alchemy to do the same, albeit completely differently?

Hell, can't nothing stand up to a nanosword either. We're already overpowered, let the power flow freely say I.

[Marc v4.0]

The very question of how EE is worse than a meh mining laser and a glorified TNT just sorta punctuates my point that we don't need to be anywhere near it.

It is destruction on a level that is leaps and bounds beyond what we currently have. It wouldn't take 2 minutes of work with glitches to produce enough tools and fuels to reduce chunks worth of land to nothing.

re: Reactors. Reactors are a problem you subject yourself to, unless you are dick enough to build one under someone elses house and have no idea what you are doing. EE tools have only one purpose and that is to demolish the land faster than a fleet of quarries.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Does anybody intend to go out and demolish the land faster than a fleet of quarries though? I mean yeah I get the end level EE stuff is powerful for mining, but we already have mass mining machines and nukes and we haven't destroyed everything yet.

You don't even need to go out and mine anything with EE, since it's all about levelling up the shit you already have into better stuff.

And on that note, I've re-engineered my cobble generator. I now have 7 block breakers working at a rate of 1 block every 0.55 seconds each, which is basically a ridonculous amount of cobble. I can fill 3 full chests within 40 odd minutes and can keep 2 recyclers full at all times. I could probably do with about 8 more recyclers. Or an EE chest to convert it all upwards. Seriously, it's an amazing amount of cobble.

And don't worry, I've started replacing everything with pneumos now, so no more crashes.

[Aldurin]

Why can't we build anything this awesome?

NhkKHZ_uTa8

[Doc ock rokc]

we can. I figured out how to do 3d sculpting. all we would really need to do is Collaborate on what we are building and what texture pack we are using.

[Aerozord]

Why can't we build anything this awesome?


I think its because people like doing their own thing. Giant monolithic structures aren't very congruent to a town. But maybe people would be up for sticking to an aestetic

[Marc v4.0]

I am down to building to a particular aesthetic, but I don't like mega-structures for the sake of them because I like utility

[Aldurin]

I wasn't thinking megastructures, I was thinking more like sparse towns and that sort of stuff. Let's make that NPF beach house we've been talking about in another thread, let's build a mountaintop city that would put the Greybeards to shame. Let's make a town in a nuked-out cavern.

[Thadius]

Did somebody say megastructures?

http://i43.tinypic.com/n6dstu.png

Because I can do megastructures like a true dorf.

http://i40.tinypic.com/5bbsk6.png

Granted, it's a bit sparse inside, but one day this will be an observatory.

Once I figure out how to make a telescope.

[Arhra]

That reminds me, I've decided to get back to work in the main server.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f362/Arhra/Minecraft/cathedral_donations.png

Annnd, I'm out of resources again.

Donations are appreciated!

I'd love to see a few settlements where we decide to build to an aesthetic.

I've also been tossing around a design for a communal matter fabricator at the technic spawn. It involves a pyramidal roof made out of LV solar arrays (mainly for the hell of it) and eight cobblestone generators. It should have enough reserve capacity to operate through the night and output a piece of UU matter every fifteen seconds, if I did my maths right.

[Flarecobra]

What in perticular are you looking for? And which world?

[Doc ock rokc]

world
and judging on looks He wants Expensive stones ...

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

I just realised that thermompiles aren't in our version yet. Slightly annoying, as I just figured out how to make infinite energy, anywhere, without solar power, even in the nether.

Hopefully they're in the next update.

EDIT; both servers just dropped out again. Not me this time.

[Ryong]

Doubled max height means I have to make Yggdrasil bigger.

*sigh*

[Thadius]

http://i39.tinypic.com/29bhksw.png

POWER! UNLIMITED POWER!

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Hey Arhra, how many water mills did your auto-bucket generator use? Because I've just built one myself and it is looking pretty good so far. Got it running 24 mills nonstop, replenishing them even before they've run out sometimes. And it's modular, so you can easily expand. I reckon is could probably fit another 12 mills on easy, maybe more.

I'm a bit confused about the blutricity needed for the retriever though, I ran it day and night and even through a storm and it never ran out of power or even looked like it was using any, so I disconnected the solar panel and it still works fine. Duno what happened there.

Whole things runs at 0.55 operations/s and generates about 1k EU/s.

In other news, with my new cobble generator I decided to upgrade my scrap production. I now have 6 recyclers running constantly, always full to the brim and I still have massive amounts of excess cobble. I think I made it too efficient.

Oh, also, I have a pointless infinite flint generator. I found it amusing to make something so simple. Anyone needs flint come see me, I got shit tons of it.

[Arhra]

Hey Arhra, how many water mills did your auto-bucket generator use? Because I've just built one myself and it is looking pretty good so far. Got it running 24 mills nonstop, replenishing them even before they've run out sometimes. And it's modular, so you can easily expand. I reckon is could probably fit another 12 mills on easy, maybe more.

I had 32 but it only was keeping the bottom slab of sixteen supplied when the timer was on a two second interval. I think that was more a quirk of the pipe layout than the maximum it could have supported though.

world
and judging on looks He wants Expensive stones ...

Well, the main one I need a lot of is netherack to finish the roof. I need to pick up some blocks to do mosaics and such with as well. Haven't really settled anything there yet.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

I had 32 but it only was keeping the bottom slab of sixteen supplied when the timer was on a two second interval. I think that was more a quirk of the pipe layout than the maximum it could have supported though.

Set the timer to 0.55, that seems to be the fastest these machines can work at. And if that doesn't fix it, add more buckets, you want at least 1 for each machine with a few more in reserve. I find the deployer only occasionally has 4 or 5 in backlog and it gets rid of them pretty quick.

I might try expanding mine another 12 to give me 36 mills running full capacity nonstop. And the great thing is that since it only takes up 3 height levels I could easily add a second setup below it of the same size, making it stackable as well as expandable.

[Arhra]

My one was just a proof of concept, so good to know about the timer settings.

Does having it set so fast cause any lag issues though?

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Doesn't appear too. In fact I seem to have less lag around my watermill farm than I do around my cobble generator after it's been running for an hour now.

[Sithdarth]

So the Tekkit server apparently just decided to shut itself down today for no readily apparent reason. It restarted just fine without any errors so I have literally no idea what happened.

[Doc ock rokc]

Ok I got Ganked in the world neather and as such I am lost in buttfuck neather nowhere with No tools and no way to get out. can someone come online and at least TP me ot a gate so I can leave. In fact I just want out of World for right now

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Work on my reactor facility continues slowly. I've spent today and yester installing my new lighting system and it's looking pretty sweet. Taken about 200 lamps to fill the place but it's worth it, soon I can remove all those naff looking torches and bask in the glorious rays of artificial block tubing.

Also got the airlock door installed finally. That's probably been the simplest system to install so far, although pistons continue to be a nuisance with how they can apparantly pick up signals from 2 blocks away through solid iron, but oh well.

Just got a little bit more of the underfloor lighting to do (which all still needs wiring, including the control mechanisms to switch it all from white to red once the reactor is on), and then I can get to work on the engineering and power storage levels underneath the reactor, so I can actually store electricity once I turn this beast on and use it for something.

I'll throw a picture up once the reactor chamber asthetics are finally finished.

[Sithdarth]

So I revamped and compressed my scrap/cobble generation. It is suitably awesome now I think:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20794520/2012-02-18_16.13.40.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20794520/2012-02-18_16.13.48.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20794520/2012-02-18_16.13.53.png

It actually produces far more scrap and cobble than I can use.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Allow me to take you all on a tour;

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii87/Hawk_of_Battle/Exterior.jpg

It begins here, out in the desert, where we find this lonely, drab, somewhat imposing monolith of a structure. The sign outside proclaims it to be an under-construction nuclear facility.

How exciting!

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii87/Hawk_of_Battle/Entrance.jpg

In the main entrance, we find the formal and safety cautious double reinforced piston blast doors. It's clear that safety is a top priority here.

Inside we find...

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii87/Hawk_of_Battle/Reactorrightside.jpg

The Reactor!

Ignore the temporary chests, building work is still on going. On the far wall we can see the control switches for the various systems that run this place. An airlock door leads into the core containment module, the inner door of which locks the outer door upon opening.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii87/Hawk_of_Battle/Reactorleftside.jpg

From the other side, we can see that once operated correctly, the lighting system alternates to indicate the reactor is active. Yes, I have alternate mood lighting for when, and only when, the reactor is online. Yes, that took a lot of planning.

But lets move on, to the centre piece of any nuclear facility...

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii87/Hawk_of_Battle/Core.jpg

The Core.

Again, safety is paramount, which is why reinforced class is used to prevent direct contact with the core itself. Only by standing in one spot can the shielding be removed and the core be accessed. Of course, opening this window also locks the outer door, to prevent massive fatal radiation leaks.

... For anyone outside.

Finally,

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii87/Hawk_of_Battle/Corecoolant.jpg

The coolant system, perhaps the most important part of core safety.


So yeah, that's my reactor facility, almost complete. All I have left to do now is build an underground engineering and power storage level with about 10 MFSUs, run the redstone and power cables to the core itself and I should be ready for a full start up. What you can't see in here is the masses of wiring this place took to build. I'd estimate there's about a kilometre of cabling running all over the place, and more to come yet.

I still want to add a few more things, like switching out the levers for computers when the new update drops, with passwords on them all, and I want to add a few above ground MFSUs, so operators can check the power levels without having to walk far. I may even add an auxilary power system based around a watermill farm, with a "dump valve" in place to transfer energy across to the main storage area, but that'll be later, after I install the Tesla defence network around the perimeter.

Next job is working out how to properly wire the reactor so I can turn it on and off. I know there's an IC2 cable that can stop current when it's powered, but I duno if that can handle the current of a reactor, if not I'll have to wire it directly.

[Arhra]

Applying a redstone current to a reactor stops it reacting.

It's a little picky where you apply the current. The sides of the addon chambers or maybe the bottom should work though.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Yeah I was thinking the bottom, though I was originally going to take the power cable out of there, but I can take that out of the chamber on the back I suppose. So long as all the wiring is hidden I don't mind how it works, I just really don't want visible wiring in this thing.

I'm also trying to keep as much stuff away from the core itself as I've read things can melt and turn into lava if it gets too hot, so the less meltable objects the better.

I'll have to just do a small initial test run with just 1 cell and an MFSU to check I can stop it with the redstone signal properly.

[Aldurin]

You're going to fabricate ALL of the matter, aren't you?

[Aldurin]

Oh hey there's a blue spider spawner on the tekkit server we could harness for exp or whatevs. I'm trying to deal with it right now but I might be help, if I don't deal with it or you want to grind then it's at roughly -195, 170 at 30 block elevation.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

So, I have initiated a start up with just 1 cell and I can now confirm my reactor works just as planned. I can turn it on and off easily, and it will only turn on if both the reactor door is closed and the cooling system is active.

I've also found a reactor design program (http://www.talonfiremage.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/reactorplanner.html?9101qik5dzmg81tr94d6x90f5xijux f2y=1010101001501521s1r11r), which is very helpful, and the design I've come up with is this;

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii87/Hawk_of_Battle/Reactordesign1.jpg

Assuming this program is indeed accurate, what I've come up with is a Mark II-6-EC reactor, which generates 16 million units of electricity per cycle (every 2 hours 47 minutes), can run for 6 cycles before needing a cooldown and has a cooldown period of 30 minutes. The EC means it has average power generation, on a scale of EE (lowest) to EA (highest).

I've also been conservative with the external cooling estimates. I'm pretty sure my coolant system has about 20 blocks around the reactor for cooling, but I've put in only 10 for this program. For every additional block I put in on here it tells me I can run it for an extra cycle or 2 and reduces the cooldown time even further. If I in fact still have 15 blocks of water around the thing, then it changes classification to a Mark II-E-EC, which means it can run 16 cycles non-stop and only has a 10 minute cooldown.

At 18 water blocks it becomes a Mark I reactor, which means it runs indefinately and never overheats. I'm pretty sure my design has at least 18 water blocks around it.

If anyone who knows a bit more about reactors can confirm this design is safe then let me know so I can properly fit out my reactor.

[Marc v4.0]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4549162/Iknowhatiamdoing.png


Everyone insists on doing things the hard way.

The safest design is the one that runs forever and only needs to shut down because your uranium ran out. Ditch those blast panels, you won't need them since it won't explode and they take up space that could be used to more heat dispersion.

[Nikose Tyris]

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/1230/reactorsetup.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/reactorsetup.png/)

I always thought this was the best way to do reactors?

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Well, a slight alteration to the one I just posted does the same as yours anyway, and now with only 11 water blocks, so either way it works now. I mostly just wanted to check the program was correct, since actual material costs are meaningless to me.

Nik yours is less efficient and uses more cells. Ours only use 4 and produce 4 million more units.

[Marc v4.0]

Those panels are all greyed out because they aren't contributing to the heat-management at all, they are wasted resources.

It that setup is still 20 less EU/t

edit: ^^ Ok, Hawk, I've been holding my tongue but is it really so necessary to keep dropping nudges that you are glitch-exploiting to get everything? I think we get it by now.

[Sithdarth]

Hey Doc I tried to use MCedit to move you out of World Nether on the vanilla server but it says you're not there. Not sure what's up with that. So like try to get in touch with me so we can plan a time to get you free.

[Sithdarth]

So I've completed my anti-Hawk device. That is to say I increased the input voltage to my mass fab which required me to double my cobble/scrap generation. I now have 16 block breakers, 16 recyclers, and 16 transposers going which means Hawk would probably lag out if he got anywhere near my house. The really sad thing is that even that doesn't generate enough scrap to keep up with my newly increased mass fab rate. I'm going to have to build more eventually.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Didn't wanna visit you anyway! :argh:

I've actually had to dismantle my own mass fab though, for some reason it was lagging me out like crazy before, even when the cobble gen and recyclers were all off. It got to the point where every time I went home I'd have to leave the area, log out and then shut down the game because even logging back in from a safe distance kept me lagged out. Not sure what caused it.

In better news, my reactor is now online and working. No explosions yet. Digging out the engineering and power storage now. I've even been able to bring down my dual lighting system, so I can continue the theme downstairs. Engineering itself is going to consist of new machines like fuel and lava fabricators, and storage for those too, because I need something new and pointless to spend all this energy on.

[akaSM]

So, I'm assuming all of this science-y stuff is happenning of Fifth's test server, right? because I want so see that reactor :3

[Sithdarth]

Indeed it is. Though it's less a test server and more a tekkit server now.

[Thadius]

Shyria and I went mining in world.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2prgv8m.png

It worked out pretty well for one of the both of us.

I am also convinced that I was ENTIRELY JUSTIFIED in...'helping' the village north of my home become a ghost town. What with all the abandoned mines and caves underneath it, I would not be surprised if an elder god or three were hiding in that non-euclidean geometry.

HOWEVER

Once the Testificates get their new features, we should ask Fifth to repopulate the villages with his godpowers.

[Aldurin]

Is that your total of each resource or just what you got from that obsessive mining spree?

[Thadius]

Lil' of column A, lil' of column B.

[Sithdarth]

I now produce one UU matter every 16 seconds while the sun is out. I had to expand my cobble/scrap generation to 32 recyclers/cobble gens though. I'm still only running off the MV side of an MV transformer at least until I can get more HV arrays built. Seems like once I do I'm going to need to add at least 16 more recyclers (if not more) just to keep up. So uh you might lag a little near my house.

[Thadius]

Serious construction has now begun on the interior of my observatory. Granted, Sugarcane Cove might be sparse for a little while now, but the library will be a sight to behold once finished.

Related: Fifth, I would like access to the /FUCKOFFRAIN command for while I'm working on my observatory, so I don't lag and accidentally place extra blocks while working on my observatory. Some blocks will be hard to get back once placed, I'd rather like to avoid making mistakes.

[Fifthfiend]

I should really enable /fuckrain for everybody, there's never been a reason not to do it.

[Marc v4.0]

You can turn off rain effects and sounds using the video options in your Tekkit-modded client.

The only way you can tell if it is raining, after you change the right settings, is because it gets a little darker.

[Aldurin]

The only way you can tell if it is raining, after you change the right settings, is because it gets a little darker.

And the mobs don't burn. Which is more reason for /dammitweather.

[Marc v4.0]

The only monsters that burn are the ones that you don't really care about to begin with. Creepers and Spiders still jump all over your shit

[Thadius]

My client is actually unmodded at this time. /screwyounature is the only way I would have to get rid of the rain effects, by getting rid of the rain itself.

It's not the mobs that I have issue wi- okay I can't say that with a straight face, I DO hate the mobs. But really, if it were the mobs that were responsible for my framerate issues, then I'd torch up the underside of my observatory and stop them from spawning and not bitch about it. It's the rain itself. I can turn off sound and music, but the animation is a no-go without /fuckmothernature.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

I never did get my Mod Continuum powers back. I might go binge on a chocolate sundae or ten to pout.

[Sithdarth]

My god so much UU matter. You have no idea. I might actually have to stop going AFK during the day at least until I set up some auto crafting tables.

[Doc ock rokc]

are we on the new technic launcher verson yet or not?

[Marc v4.0]

Tekkit 2 isn't finished just yet, so no. Should be a week, the guy doing a lot of the miracle work with the launcher and getting things sorted had a death in the family so has been understanably not working on it yet.

[Thadius]

Fifth godammit you really need to update the first post in this thread.

Shit's changed a lot since October.

For one, the rapture didn't happen.

[Aerozord]

For one, the rapture didn't happen.

oh it did, just turns out we are all dicks

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

I've had an insane idea to utilize Docs block changer, a mass fab and lots of pneumo tubes to make an infinitely resupplying source of uranium cells for my reactor.

I've also had another insane idea to make it run hotter and get more energy out of it by using automated ice block generation and more cells in a row to make it run MUCH more efficiently whilst still not needing to stop ever.

The ultimate insane idea of course, is to combine both of these ideas, but I'm not sure if that's feasible.

[Doc ock rokc]

I've had an insane idea to utilize Docs block changer, a mass fab and lots of pneumo tubes to make an infinitely resupplying source of uranium cells for my reactor.

There is No feasible way to create a automatic version the the block changer. Even with technic.

[Marc v4.0]

Any hand placemrnt that is required can be replaced with RP machines.

Shit, you can auto-fish with them I think.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Yeah are you sure Doc? I was just on and taking a look trying to figure out how it works (still not clear on where to place which blocks), but as far as I can tell it's just pistons moving the blocks and the blocks then glitching out. There are machines to both break and place blocks. If blocks it creates get dropped, you can even hoover them up with a transposer.

Seems pretty easy to automate to me.

[Doc ock rokc]

based on the way the device works it won't be able to become automatic. Especially if you are going for Uranium. The device works by using the unique properties of red-stone torches after they are destroyed to abuse the damage system. when a bit of water hits the torch (thus destroying it) it causes a chain reaction that does a Auto zero-pulse through the pusher piston making the game think that the item has the same damage as the water. However based on the way it is designed the clamped area where the change happens it would again be impossible.

[Marc v4.0]

Deployers can dump and pick up water using a bucket in the inventory, shouldn't be that hard really

[Thadius]

The first floor of my observatory is finished to a degree that I find acceptable. I advise anyone who visits to not pull any levers besides the one that opens the pod bay iron doors. Some are deadly.

Also, please refrain from bringing: redstone or redstone-powering devices, flint and steel, TNT, gunpowder, or pickaxes. I know where everything is. I also have TNT myself and can find out where you live with a minimum of fuss should anything go missing. Yes, there are highly valuable blocks in my observatory. They're there for decoration. You don't get to keep any.

Besides the cake. Feel free to munch on that.

[Marc v4.0]

Maybe you shouldn't threaten every possible minor infraction that no one was thinking about at all with complete and total destruction of everything they have and cherish.

I doubt a missing iron bar or misplaced cobblestone is worth the sheer amount of wrath you will have returned upon you over a rash retaliation.

[Thadius]

Maybe you shouldn't threaten every possible minor infraction that no one was thinking about at all with complete and total destruction of everything they have and cherish.

Comes from growing up listening to and researching too many politicians. I figure, if I tell you expressly what you are NOT allowed to bring, along with the punishments for bringing it FIRST, then the likelyhood that the interior of my observatory going up in smoke approaches 0. Whereas the paranoid part of me fears that someone will get too playful with their flint and steel if I don't tell you beforehand.

I call it the Thadway. Sanity and reason don't play a big part of the Thadway. Anger and paranoia before the fact do.

Granted, the Thadway does tend to put off visitors. Maybe I should summarize the Thadway:

Be a dick to me, directly or indirectly, and I will blow your ass up.

Those that intend to never be a dick to me have nothing to fear!

I doubt a missing iron bar or misplaced cobblestone is worth the sheer amount of wrath you will have returned upon you over a rash retaliation.

I was more worried about some wired doors not working because someone flicked a lever wrong, or someone absconding with some blocks of iron or other precious mineral because they needed it that badly.

[Marc v4.0]

Oh, so

Don't simply carry those items around here or happen to flip a switch, or I will grief your shit for pretty much no reason at all.

Yes, that is much better overall >_>

[Melfice]

I call it the Thadway. Sanity and reason don't play a big part of the Thadway. Anger and paranoia before the fact do.

I call it the "Oh, fuck. I don't really (or really don't) do shit on this server anyway, and don't have a house, so let's just get some TNT and scoot on over to Thad's place"-way.

It's really an invite for trolling and/or griefing, Thads.

Mind you, I'm mature enough NOT to act on that impulse, but yeah.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

I just came across this, thought it was an interesting mod (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfsPdhekTVA&feature=g-vrec&context=G29b9d9eRVAAAAAAAABQ).

Combined with redpower, this could make large scale machines so much more awesome and compact, though I duno how compatible it would be.

[Marc v4.0]

It only works with Vanilla stuff.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Shame, you could make all kinds of stuff with this, especially if combined with lamps and stuff. Non-massive scale LED displays for clocks and counters, all kinds of funky new lighting setups, and not to mention just simply scaling down circuitry EVEN more than ever before.

It'd be even better if it was fully tekkit compatible. Imagine micro-scale solar farms and mininukes!

[Melfice]

It'd be even better if it was fully tekkit compatible. Imagine micro-scale solar farms and mininukes!

Imagine micro-scale solar farms and mininukes!

mininukes!

Haha-no.
Can you imagine the grieving?

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

I was actually more thinking of mini reactors. I wonder if the explosions would scale down as well though? Or if they'd stay the same and just allow you to pack a hundred more nukes into the same space.

[Fifthfiend]

so:

/weather sunny works for all players on the main server now

Also - how would people feel about changing how XP works, such that you get it from like, mining or something?

[Doc ock rokc]

I would feel that my efforts to make Monster farms would by ultimately crushed.

[Flarecobra]

Well, one coud gain Exp from jumping before... I wouldn't mind that. And people wouldnt' have to go "FUUUCCCKK YOU (*insert method of death here*)!" so much.

[Aldurin]

Also - how would people feel about changing how XP works, such that you get it from like, mining or something?

That would be nice, especially since lag and/or mobphobia makes mob farming inconvenient or impractical for some players.

[Marc v4.0]

Like, maybe SOME exp from farming and mining, while at the same time boosting exp from mobs. I don't have any lag usually, so monster killing is fun and rewarding, but I don't want to be shitting on other people about it.

[Doc ock rokc]

That would be nice, especially since lag and/or mobphobia makes mob farming inconvenient or impractical for some players.

creates several completely safe mob grinders throughout world.

No one but fifth and myself use them to get enchantments.

[akaSM]

Doc, you forgot the FOREVER ALONE image. Also, where are those mob grinders? I doesn't afraid of anything (and am a cool person) but, I'd like to see those grinders.

[Arhra]

creates several completely safe mob grinders throughout world.

No one but fifth and myself use them to get enchantments.

How do you think I got that silk touch pickaxe?

That and my unbreaking II diamond pickaxe pretty much means I won't need any other enchantments for a very long time though.

Guess I should make an enchanted bow though.

[Marc v4.0]

Hey, Fifth, good new on the Tekkit front!

Tekkit is out for realsies. EE was actually nerfed down pretty hard for SMP, so now I suggest doing what is advised here and turn Crafting Table 2 off. (http://forums.technicpack.net/index.php/topic,1808.0.html) It is called Clevercraft in the ModLoader cfg file.


Also: Coming in 1.2

http://i.imgur.com/xSRLn.png

[Aldurin]

I hope inverted stairs implies an implementation of gravity inversion.

[Fifthfiend]

http://i.imgur.com/aCTca.png

[Fifthfiend]

In other news I think I may have found a way to make minecraft play on my non-gaming laptop, whoa fuck this will own if it works.

[Flarecobra]

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/thumb/e/e2/IronGolemHoldingRose.png/800px-IronGolemHoldingRose.png

The fuck?

[Melfice]

... I am SO going to hate 1.2.
Thank the gods (I think) it's only a passive mob, which means I should be okay. I don't kill the villagers.
Still.

[Sithdarth]

Yeah the only problem with the new tekkit update is no advanced machines which means no solar arrays which really sucks.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Rocktificate is friend of children. (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Iron_Golem)

And possibly the player if they turn out to be craftable.

Edit:Iron Golems holding out roses to Villager children is a reference to the robot in the Japanese anime movie Laputa: Castle in the Sky. [1]

When Villager children notice the rose in its hand, they will slowly approach, and take the flower away eventually.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Yeah the only problem with the new tekkit update is no advanced machines which means no solar arrays which really sucks.

Good job we now have infinite energy water bucket generators and a working nuclear power plant then eh?

[Sithdarth]

Good job we now have infinite energy water bucket generators and a working nuclear power plant then eh?

Except some of us made over 900 solar panels the hard way. Also, no more rotary macerators, centrifuge extractors, or singularity compressors.

[Ryong]

As I don't think I got to show Yggdrasil yet:
http://i.imgur.com/Cutgx.png (http://imgur.com/Cutgx)

Need a better design for branches and leaves for when the height gets increased, any ideas?

And here's what happens when you go overboard with sugarcane.
http://i.imgur.com/vUA9s.png (http://imgur.com/vUA9s)

Mind y'all, I haven't done anything here for a long time, so I was quite surprised I found a christmas present from Thadius. Thank ye.

[Arhra]

Wow, looking good there Ryong.

The Timber! mod is activated right now though, so be really, really careful if you need to move any blocks.

[Ryong]

Wow, looking good there Ryong.

Compared to the cathedral of yours, this ain't shit.

The Timber! mod is activated right now though, so be really, really careful if you need to move any blocks.

...Oooh shit good thing I don't have to move anything. By the way...

http://i.imgur.com/5cT1y.png (http://imgur.com/5cT1y)

These were the mountains I mentioned. I guess "dirt and stone formations" are more fitting, though.

[Fifthfiend]

testy land is down while i upgrade all the tekkits

[Fifthfiend]

This process will be hecka faster if anyone wants to figure out for me how the world conversion jar thing works

[Marc v4.0]

I downloaded it to see what the deal was.

You double click it, and it runs.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4549162/fdgfh.png

Scrublord

[Sithdarth]

You download the world and world_nether folders with FTP. You double click the jar and point it at the world and then the world_nether folder. It runs and then you FTP the folders back.

[Fifthfiend]

SITH, as the jar is giving me problems with executing I am assigning you the duty of downloading the tekkitend, tekkitnether, and tekkitworld .gz files from the /tekkit directory on the server, unzipping/untarring them and running the world updater on them, then retarring them (don't rezip them) and upload them back to the server in the new /tekkit2 directory, YOUR MISSION, IPH YOU CHOOOBS TOO ACKSEPT ITT

[Sithdarth]

Well I did it and the zip files are there but File Zilla kept restarting the upload so if something goes wrong I might have to try uploading again.

Also added the folders directly just in case.

[Aldurin]

4xuBqgaaoKY

Sick of mining iron? Here's a cure in 1.2.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Is it wrong that I'm almost more excited for the updates to slab behavior?

[Thadius]

So ComputerCraft updated again.

Turtles are a pretty cool thing. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAwttgCLUuI&context=C3bea29fADOEgsToPDskJ-wjj97pkz8q1zIfdqKKWE)

I can only hope they get included with Tekkit at some point.

Also wireless data transfers can now be a THING so we can really build an Internet faster now.

[Marc v4.0]

http://www.mojang.com/2012/02/minecraft-1-2-preview/

Update tomorrow, looking forward to it

[Fifthfiend]

note to self

VzQWWLOwX7w

build one of these

[Flarecobra]

Why do I see Hawk/Sith making one of those, and then trying to improve it?

[Aldurin]

Well, with 1.2 mountain gen in taller worlds, we could turn that into a new form of cliff diving.

[Fifthfiend]

FYI: Terrain gen height WON'T be changing (might be moddable but I don't wanna make assumptions on what the modding community may produce, that never ends well) so like you'll be able to build up to 256 but mountains will still cut off at 128

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

note to self

VzQWWLOwX7w

build one of these

Genius. I'm never using minecarts again. Why did nobody ever think of this before?


Why do I see Hawk/Sith making one of those, and then trying to improve it?

I'm already trying to think of ways!

[Doc ock rokc]

note to self

VzQWWLOwX7w

build one of these

while that is quite fast it's consuming. I know a way to about as fast travel with boats that is less consumptive

[Ryong]

What's the current "main" world? Outside of tekkit craze world?

[Doc ock rokc]

What's the current "main" world? Outside of tekkit craze world?

world or infernum on the main server
those are the two main worlds

Then Ely is "Lol serious"

and terra is "lol old!".

[Flarecobra]

I'm already trying to think of ways!



Only if you name it the Falcon Express.

And play mind-shredding rock as it travels.

[Ryong]

Made a hidden shrine thing on world. Anyone feel like checking it out, it's somewhere inside Yggdrasil. It's close to Flare's swamp, just look for a really big tree on the edge of the swamp and the desert.

[Fifthfiend]

Tekkit 2 is probably up, probably, try it out

Crafting table 2 is probably disabled.

[Melfice]

Hah... at this point, I wouldn't have even bothered, because you know you'll be updating for 1.2 soon enough.

[Fifthfiend]

Crafting 2 was not disabled shuttin down while i fix that (it's working otherwise though)


Hah... at this point, I wouldn't have even bothered, because you know you'll be updating for 1.2 soon enough.

Nah realistically tekkit is not gonna be updated to 1.2 for like... months, probably, like at least a couple of months.

With the fuckin tekkit launcher now its like, not even worth it to consider their schedule in relation to minecraft's.

[Fifthfiend]

Report: Crafting table 2 may or may not be disabled but the problem may no longer be an issue?

I DON'T KNOW, CHECK YOURSELVES.

I have taken all steps available to me at this time to address the vital crafting table 2 issue consideration concern flaw difficulty impropriety imperfection problem.

[Melfice]

Ah, fair enough.
I really don't know how fast Tekkit updates, so... whatever. Carry on as you were!
Which you were gonna do anyway, so... yeah.

[Marc v4.0]

Sith, you asked me to post for resource comp.

8 MV Arrays, equaling out to 512 Solar panels

[Doc ock rokc]

WTF IS MINECRAFT FORGE AND WHY THE FUCK DON"T I HAVE IT.

[Sithdarth]

Doc here is what you do:

Step 1: Get the Technic launcher if you don't already have it
Step 2: Open it up
Step 3: Go to that little thing in the upper left were you select what loadout you wish to run
Step 4: Go to the bottom of that list and select Tekkit, not Technic or Vanilla but Tekkit
Step 5: Click login and enjoy Tekkit (not to be confused with Technic as they are not the same thing)

[Sithdarth]

Apparently I've got too much stuff going on at my house so I'm going to have to fix that. Seems to be an issue with all the solar panels. Anyone care if I crank up the energy output of solar panels at least until we get arrays back?

[Marc v4.0]

Go right ahead

[Marc v4.0]

So...are we just giving up on the Tekkit server altogether?

It has been down for the better part of a week now, and was only up for a few days after it was updated to Tekkit 2 before it went down.

A new update has come out for both server and client already.

[Arhra]

But who needs Tekkit when you have
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f362/Arhra/Minecraft/mcathedral_1103_1.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f362/Arhra/Minecraft/mcathedral_1103_2.jpg

It's coming along rather nicely now.

[Sithdarth]

So...are we just giving up on the Tekkit server altogether?

It has been down for the better part of a week now, and was only up for a few days after it was updated to Tekkit 2 before it went down.

A new update has come out for both server and client already.

Sorry about that I've been exceedingly busy for a little while now. Not all of it because of work either.

[Marc v4.0]

aaaaand crashed. Lag started to build up right before hand

[Sithdarth]

Running just fine for me. Perhaps it was just a problem on your end. Unless fifth got to it before me.

[Ryong]

But who needs Tekkit when you have
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f362/Arhra/Minecraft/mcathedral_1103_1.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f362/Arhra/Minecraft/mcathedral_1103_2.jpg

It's coming along rather nicely now.

And all I can think of is "daaaaaaaaaaaaaaang"

All the cobblestone I donated seems like the shittiest donation ever.

[Sithdarth]

Hey guys guess what. I'm fucking awesome and updated the tekkit server to 2.1.1. We've got advanced machines back!

[Thadius]

You failed to answer a critical question, though, sith.

How advanced are the computers?

[Sithdarth]

I really didn't even want to touch tekkit without HV arrays. But now I'm totally back to make this computer thing happen.

[Arhra]

And all I can think of is "daaaaaaaaaaaaaaang"

All the cobblestone I donated seems like the shittiest donation ever.

What are you talking about? You gave me enough to complete an entire side.

[Ryong]

What are you talking about? You gave me enought to complete an entire side.

*checks*

I gave you around 5k cobblestone blocks, apparently.

...That's a lot more than I thought.

[Thadius]

On my singleplayer 1.2.3 world, I have been extremely lucky. Spawn point up a tree nonwithstanding, this world has given me everything I needed with just a minor bit of begging involved. I started at the convergence of a snow biome and a jungle one, I have secured a diamond pickaxe with relative ease, and every dungeon I have come across has been somewhat easily thwarted, though I left the spawners intact. I enjoy the thought of rare drops, after all. And now, it has come to this.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2ujh8o4.png

Fish in hand, I have begun my search for pussy...cats. Wish me luck!

EDIT:

http://i39.tinypic.com/23sdoh2.png

The black one is Felix, the tabby is Felicia.

And it only took me two in-game days to get them both!

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Alright, I've got the newest (to my knowledge) version of the Tekkit launcher, yet whenever I run Tekkit and try to access the server, it fails to connect and claims I'm missing a bunch of mods. Any help?

[Thadius]

Oh no, if you have the latest one, you just have to go to the options section and select 'manually select build' then pull up 2.1.1. You should connect fine then.

As I found out, the migration was not without losses. Some were expected.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2vjdh7d.png

Like my advanced machines going missing. Some were weird.

http://i44.tinypic.com/ztam1i.png

Like the entire tunnel between sith's and my place going dark. Some were the result of mod fuckery.

http://i41.tinypic.com/jz77ly.png

Like this ENTIRE CHUNK going MISSING and being paved over. That used to be my MINES and my cobble generator for my infinite scrap machines!

But there is one thing I will not stand for.

http://i42.tinypic.com/1hxceq.png

MY FUCKING SOLAR PANELS, some of which were MV, have gone MISSING. I am WITHOUT POWER.

Sith. We can work this out nicely. I'm sure.

[Marc v4.0]

yeah, Tekkit 2 didn't have advanced machines cause they weren't ready or cleaned up in time.

They are back with the latest release and better than ever.

[Sithdarth]

Just make up a list and put an empty chest with a sign on it somewhere and I'll replace what disappeared.

[Thadius]

Said empty chest would have to be in my room, seeing as how it's the ONLY empty one. The list so far:

At least a stack of torches will be necessary to relight the passage between your place and mine.
One MV solar arrays, three, maybe four LV solar arrays. It's been a while, I forget exactly how many.
Singularity Compressor, Rotary Macerator, Centrifuge Extractor. My furnace survived.
My Infinite Cobble machine may be MIA. If so, I kindly ask you to replace THAT as well.
That chunk that has gone missing: Is it safe to dig under there? Cause if so, I'd like to be able to dig my mines again.

[Marc v4.0]

need to just make an infinite snowball machine for your recycler instead.

[Sithdarth]

At least a stack of torches will be necessary to relight the passage between your place and mine.
One MV solar arrays, three, maybe four LV solar arrays. It's been a while, I forget exactly how many.
Singularity Compressor, Rotary Macerator, Centrifuge Extractor. My furnace survived.

Done

My Infinite Cobble machine may be MIA. If so, I kindly ask you to replace THAT as well.

Both done and improved. I moved you from pipes to tubes, made it much smaller, and used redstone tubes so that now your shut off switch just attaches to the tubes instead of needing a separate redstone wire set up. I also gave you an Alchemical Chest for the stone to dump into.

That chunk that has gone missing: Is it safe to dig under there? Cause if so, I'd like to be able to dig my mines again.

Should be fine.

[Thadius]

Sith I found an answer to both our computercraft problems. For the one where we can't actually use the computers:


1) go into the mods folder of your tekkit server and find the directory named "[2] computercraft"
2) rename it to "computercraft"
optional: restart server


And for the Disk Drives transforming into Wireless Modems:


http://www.mcportcentral.co.za/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1152.0;attach=145
Download that plugin and stick it in /plugins

and also

http://www.mcportcentral.co.za/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1152.0;attach=146
To install this, Drag it into your Tekkit.jar and into net/minecraft/server/

Note this is just needed to be done on the server.


Oh and also the server's out at the moment.

[Sithdarth]

Sith I found an answer to both our computercraft problems. For the one where we can't actually use the computers:

Figured that one out myself.

And for the Disk Drives transforming into Wireless Modems:
I'll look into that.

Oh and also the server's out at the moment.
Someone used teleport pipes.

DO NOT USE TELEPORT PIPES OR I WILL FIND YOU AND SHANK YOU.

But seriously teleport pipes are bad news.

[Thadius]

So is this going to be a thing that is fixed, or...?

[Sithdarth]

I'm working on it. Apparently something spewed cobble all over and its making things mad.

[Fifthfiend]

I just want to iterate that I 100% support whatever the fuck Sith is doin' with the tekkit server, sith man if you think there is something that needs to be handled you go the shit ahead and do it, thank you for steppin' into the gap of my absence and lazyfuckery and gettin' things done.

[Thadius]

That would be far more believable if not for your current avatar, you know.

[Sithdarth]

Fixed tekkit and computer craft. I sleep now.

[BitVyper]

Man, I can't wait until the semester's over and I can get back to working on the road.

[Doc ock rokc]

Alright, I've got the newest (to my knowledge) version of the Tekkit launcher, yet whenever I run Tekkit and try to access the server, it fails to connect and claims I'm missing a bunch of mods. Any help?

i'm having the same problem shy.

[Fifthfiend]

That would be far more believable if not for your current avatar, you know.

I would have thought that would make it moreso.

[Thadius]

i'm having the same problem shy.

TIME FOR INFORMATIONAL PICTURES SO THIS SHIT STOPS.

First, start up the tekkit launcher. It should have blue in the startup sequence. If it has red everywhere instead of blue, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. GO DOWNLOAD THE LATEST VERSION AND COME BACK.

http://i41.tinypic.com/1w65d.png

Eventually you'll come to a screen like this. You see that button labeled 'Options'? CLICK IT YOU LACKWITS.

http://i44.tinypic.com/5burr8.png

This is what you will be confronted with. THIS IS WRONG. At least, if you want to actually connect.

http://i44.tinypic.com/9rkrd1.png

Make it look something like this, and you should be able to connect.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS?

[Doc ock rokc]

Seriously, I ALREADY TOLD YOU HOW TO DO THIS.

When? Frankly I don't see you mentioning anything of this sort at all.

[Thadius]

When? Frankly I don't see you mentioning anything of this sort at all.

Oh no, if you have the latest one, you just have to go to the options section and select 'manually select build' then pull up 2.1.1. You should connect fine then.


REALLY NOW.

Though I suppose you aren't quite to blame. A bit of that post was host to a large amount of pictures and rage.

WHICH DOESN'T REALLY MAKE IT DIFFERENT FROM MY LAST POST, NOW DOES IT?

Normally I'm not this bad. When I've figured out what's causing my irritation and solved it, I'll probably apologize.

PROBABLY.

[Sithdarth]

I am such a genius. I figured out how to channel all the emc from a multi AM relay array into a single Klein star. EE is now my bitch.

[Sithdarth]

So if my calculations are correct I'm channeling about 2 million EMC per hour into a Klein star at the moment. The best part is that I have so much room to expand my current setup.

[Thadius]

...Wha...

...Multi-Am array...

...Single star...

...How...

PICTURES. I REQUIRE THEM.

[Sithdarth]

Its so simple you'll kick yourself. Basically you do the 5 AM relays into an energy condenser thing. Now you make the condensers make something, like say diamonds. Then you use transposers and redstone tubes (redstone tubes to carry the timing signal to the transposers) to pipe all the diamonds to a separate AM relay where you put your star.

At the moment I have 10 AM relays going into one star this way and room to expand that by 15 more for a total of 25 AM relays plus approximately 5 collectors per relay. I say approximately because there is some collector sharing to save space.

[Thadius]

http://i39.tinypic.com/9q8dna.png

Mining under the lava is fun as long as you are close enough to pick up what you're mining before it burns.

[Sithdarth]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20794520/2012-03-17_17.42.08.png

New Klein star charging system is up and running. That's 20 energy condensers, 100 AM relays, and 260 collectors/glow stone all feeding one Klein star.

[Sithdarth]

So I came back this morning to find this craziness. Just so many diamonds backlogged that they filled the tubes.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20794520/2012-03-18_09.29.53.png

[Sithdarth]

Triple post to update. So I expanded my Klein star charger again and have finally become net positive. That is to say I produce so many diamonds that I'm charging the star as fast as it is possible to charge the star and have diamonds to spare after that.

[Thadius]

Oh sith. That's so quaint.

Meanwhile, the only viable way I have to charge my stars is instantly, via tablet. If I leave them in the main relay to charge, I will get so much of a backlog that I fear for our server.

[Doc ock rokc]

OH sith I figured out why your watch has no effect on our machines. The effect isn't global. It only stretches 9 blocks in radius. meaning we don't get a boost from all your pedistals as they are not within 9 blocks of them.

[Thadius]

So at first, my power room was very basic.

http://i43.tinypic.com/154vb0g.jpg

Redstone engine, five collectors, a condenser, and a relay.

Then someone showed me pneumatic tubes.

http://i44.tinypic.com/20ud0sm.jpg

It got a little more advanced. 17 collectors, 5 relays, a condenser, and the necessary tubing and wiring to extract the diamonds and put them in a separate relay, which powered the stars.

Then I got crazy with it.

http://i42.tinypic.com/6rr91k.jpg

I began to think UP and OUT and SIDEWAYS and with podiums and watches. But it was still inefficent! There were still multiple relays that I had to check to power my stars! There had to be a better way!

http://i40.tinypic.com/21mdev9.jpg

Here, hovering at one of my yet-to-be-constructed batteries, you can see how insane my plans grew before I realized the best way to be doing this.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2pseoi1.jpg

Simply remove all those individual relays, and keep piping the diamonds! Where to?

http://i44.tinypic.com/z4nyq.jpg

The power room! Which also has a podium, because god knows that's the only way it'll keep up with the ludicrous amounts of diamond coming in.

What does the scouter say about the power levels, sith?

http://i42.tinypic.com/2re2pme.jpg

They're OVER NINE MILLION! Somewhat constantly.

[Sithdarth]

Oh sith. That's so quaint.

Meanwhile, the only viable way I have to charge my stars is instantly, via tablet. If I leave them in the main relay to charge, I will get so much of a backlog that I fear for our server.

Well for starters tubes and redpower stuff is smart enough to stop sending diamonds when there is no valid destination which keeps things fairly safe. Beyond that you really have no idea what I've been up to lately but I don't particularly feel the need to boast about it. Also, I had the single relay idea like weeks ago anyway. That's old news.

[Marc v4.0]

And yet both of you are far behind me in adaptation timescale. Suck it!

[Melfice]

And yet both of you are far behind me in adaptation timescale. Suck it!

Pshaw. I'm so far ahead of you, I've regressed on the technological scale.
I have no idea what you're all talking about!

That's how advanced I am!

(But seriously now. Holy shit, you guys.

Just... holy shit.)

[Thadius]

My batteries are finally complete.

My tubes are now full of diamonds.

I have also managed to make the full gem armor set along with the tome, and I STILL have too much power.

I'ma wander off for now. When I come back, I'm stabbing a dragon in the eyeballs.

THE EDITING: So I stabbed a dragon between the eyes.

He actually hurt me the first time because I wasn't expecting him to touch me.

He took off half my health, even through the armor!

Then again, the first time we clashed was the last time he touched me.

Every other mid-air meeting ended with my katar between his eyes.

He could only take so much damage before exploding.

Now I just need to put this egg somewhere...oh, and get the XP from him OUT of the mind stone I placed it in.

My reactor is also upgraded to be less of a threat to the server. Now, instead of producing a constant stream of diamonds, it produces a constant trickle of red matter.

Still have a surplus, though.

[Nikose Tyris]

I need help with this Nuclear Reactor. Can someone show me an absolutely Ideal Energy Output?

[Thadius]

...Are we talking NUCLEAR reactor, or EE reactors?

I can help with the latter, but if you want to use the former, there are other, madder scientists out there.

[Nikose Tyris]

Nuclear.

[Thadius]

Sith could possibly help you if he were inclined to.

Related: Sith, I came to visit you to see what your setup was like, and I forgot your place is a black hole. Now I can't leave. Please aid me in this endeavor of mine.

[Sithdarth]

You're going to have to be logged in for me to do anything.

[Marc v4.0]

I don't mean to be picky, but you two might need to scale it back just a bit.

Like, the reason I didn't build a huge fuck-off setup of devices all running numbers at crazy rates and moving things around is that sort of stuff impacts everyone. EE stuff isn't as bad as IC stuff is about eating up resources to make energy calculations, but in this scale it is starting to impact me all the way over at my home.

[Aldurin]

I don't mean to be picky, but you two might need to scale it back just a bit.

Like, the reason I didn't build a huge fuck-off setup of devices all running numbers at crazy rates and moving things around is that sort of stuff impacts everyone. EE stuff isn't as bad as IC stuff is about eating up resources to make energy calculations, but in this scale it is starting to impact me all the way over at my home.

It's this and the fact that the two tech levels that a player can be in are either caveman or God of Energy that are discouraging me from being on the tekkit server. And I'm sure that other people are put off by it too.

[Flarecobra]

Yeah... I don't like making overly complex things myself.

It's like, "If it's not broke... why try to fix it?" But hey, I'm not you all. What I find enjoyable and relaxing may differ, hense why I kept my mouth shut about tekkit.

[Fifthfiend]

So guys I have thought a bunch about this and an ongoing persistent-map tekkit server is not somethin' I am interested in continuing to run. Like, I am a little interested in tekkit, but not SO much that it makes up for givin up my test server which I got in the first place to help me run a bukkit server and to be a kind of just free fuckaround space to, well, test shit.

That said there are obviously a lot of people here who ARE in fact quite enthusiastic about Tekkit and have put a lot of time into doing crazy shit on this current Tekkit server and I don't have any particularly urgent interest at this time in gratuitously fucking over all of those people, so like if other parties are interested in taking over the Tekkit server I would 100% support that. Sith at this point seems to be pretty much fully up to speed on all the ins and outs of servering and I am pretty sure would be totally down with facilitating the process of transferring things over to whomever wants to take over. Or I mean Sith if you wanna run it yourself that is also cool, basically whatever you guys on the tekkit server support I am in favor of. I can pretty much fully recommend my hosting company (http://www.minecraftserverhost.net) which is super, super reliable and quite responsive.

I am also not in a huge hurry to make this happen, like a few weeks or whatever is cool.

Also I am not like zero-tolerance on tekkits now like i probably will still be putting it up on the test server occasionally for fuckaround purposes, I just can't be runnin it as like, a persistent thing that I know people would (justifiably!) be kinda pissed off about having interrupted at random extended intervals.

[Fifthfiend]

Like Bukkit and its shit is ridiculous because there is basically always like five layers of dependencies between you and the shit you are trying to do and every step in the chain is wider than the above step and depends on a million times as many people to be timely in updatin' shit and I just don't like goin' live with a map and havin it break as soon as a player touches it and I gotta be like WELP SORRY NO MINECRAFT AFTER ALL and yoink the map out from under 'em.

[Sithdarth]

I don't mean to be picky, but you two might need to scale it back just a bit.

Like, the reason I didn't build a huge fuck-off setup of devices all running numbers at crazy rates and moving things around is that sort of stuff impacts everyone. EE stuff isn't as bad as IC stuff is about eating up resources to make energy calculations, but in this scale it is starting to impact me all the way over at my home.

That might actually have more to do with me accidentally spilling a few thousand diamonds basically everywhere. Its all cleaned up now though. I know personally I have zero lag when wandering around my house so it isn't taxing the server and it shouldn't be taxing your client because the chunk isn't even loaded for you.

So guys I have thought a bunch about this and an ongoing persistent-map tekkit server is not somethin' I am interested in continuing to run. Like, I am a little interested in tekkit, but not SO much that it makes up for givin up my test server which I got in the first place to help me run a bukkit server and to be a kind of just free fuckaround space to, well, test shit.

That said there are obviously a lot of people here who ARE in fact quite enthusiastic about Tekkit and have put a lot of time into doing crazy shit on this current Tekkit server and I don't have any particularly urgent interest at this time in gratuitously fucking over all of those people, so like if other parties are interested in taking over the Tekkit server I would 100% support that. Sith at this point seems to be pretty much fully up to speed on all the ins and outs of servering and I am pretty sure would be totally down with facilitating the process of transferring things over to whomever wants to take over. Or I mean Sith if you wanna run it yourself that is also cool, basically whatever you guys on the tekkit server support I am in favor of. I can pretty much fully recommend my hosting company which is super, super reliable and quite responsive.

I am also not in a huge hurry to make this happen, like a few weeks or whatever is cool.

Also I am not like zero-tolerance on tekkits now like i probably will still be putting it up on the test server occasionally for fuckaround purposes, I just can't be runnin it as like, a persistent thing that I know people would (justifiably!) be kinda pissed off about having interrupted at random extended intervals.

I'm going to be at Berkeley from Tuesday of next week to like Monday of the following week to do SCIENCE at the ALS. The week I come back is spring break however and I should be able to look into doing something then. If all else fails I can try some port forwarding, grab a domain, and move the tekkit over onto my computer which is usually fairly stable.

[Thadius]

I might be more inclined to play on the regular fiendcraft server if fifth ever told us anything about it.

What version the server is now, if it has multiworld/bukkit on, those sorts of things. Those minor niggling details.

That's really the main reason why I've been playing with tekkit so much: because at least with this server, I know what version to use! Because getting information from Fifth is like getting money from a dead miser.

Of course, now that I have achieved ultimate cosmic power and tamed my volcano, what good is it if I do not try to help my fellow man?

Expect to see a flying red samaritan on the tekkit server from now on. Once I install a security computer in the volcano, that is. Can't have unauthorized rubes getting at ultimate cosmic power!

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Man, at this point I feel like I should get a caveman skin to match my technological progress.

[Fifthfiend]

I might be more inclined to play on the regular fiendcraft server if fifth ever told us anything about it.

What version the server is now, if it has multiworld/bukkit on, those sorts of things. Those minor niggling details.

That's really the main reason why I've been playing with tekkit so much: because at least with this server, I know what version to use! Because getting information from Fifth is like getting money from a dead miser.

Basically the reason for offering tekkit to someone else is so I can use the test server for the purpose I actually got it for IE testing shit and making sure it's working and getting things configured before I put it up on main server therefore facilitating me getting things done with the bukkit server. Like basically as it stands now to actually get anything done on bukkit i have to shut down one of two persistently running servers and uh i don't want to do that, so I end up not doing anything, which isn't good for anyone.

[Fifthfiend]

Basically basically as it stands right now we have two main servers that I am doing kind of a shitty job of running so i figure if I focus on running one server with the test server and then transfer the tekkit server over to you guys who are enjoying the tekkit server then this should ideally result in more or less two good well-run servers in excellently different flavors for people to enjoy.

[Sithdarth]

So like I've got 11 fully charged Klein star omegas and two alchemical chests worth of UU matter. So like if anyone wants literally anything in just about any reasonable quantity it can be done.

[Marc v4.0]

http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/terrain-control/

Make it happen cap'n

[Aldurin]

http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/terrain-control/

Make it happen cap'n

This would actually encourage me to come back to the server, because FUCK YES EPIC TERRAIN IS THE BEST TERRAIN!

[Flarecobra]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wWXsCCnhvSU

Minecraft updates!

[Marc v4.0]

Is that..white space supposed to be something?

[rpgdemon]

wWXsCCnhvSU

Minecraft updates!

I am a fixar.

[Flarecobra]

Guess I need more cool points to be able to put up Youtube vids.

[rpgdemon]

You don't put the full URL between the tags, just the stuff after v=.

[Thadius]

http://i41.tinypic.com/34ovqrq.jpg

Dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!

Am I right in thinking that if I told them all to stand up at once, there'd be a bloodbath as they fought each other?

Cause if so, they can sit forever.

EDIT:

http://i44.tinypic.com/6rkjmx.jpg

GOLEM ONLINE. WHAT IS THY BIDDING, MASTER?

http://i42.tinypic.com/14nzqsm.jpg

Adorable puppy! It must be protected!

[Shyria Dracnoir]

So, can we get a reminder of the specs needed to get on the multiplayer servers? Between the updates and mods I've ended up confused.

[Thadius]

Why do dwarves dig?

http://i40.tinypic.com/ndwtmp.jpg

To escape the cries of their cats that will not shut up dear lord please shut up cats what will it take?!

I can't even have one minute of non-interrupted time in my house.

Seriously we need to update the Fiendcraftia server to 1.2.* so that we can have cats.

I will not be the only one to suffer their cries if I can help it.

[Flarecobra]

I'd gladly take them.

I'll be the crazy cat lady of Minecraft GLADLY.

[Aldurin]

I'd gladly take them.

I'll be the crazy cat lady of Minecraft GLADLY.

But you're already the crazy fire lady of our server.

[Doc ock rokc]

BTW i now have tested and proven plans for a 4x4 door.

[BitVyper]

So I guess the server is down? I can't access it to do a restart anyway, so if you're having trouble getting on, just wait until Fifth gets my message.

[Bells]

do we have one of those Big maps that show the current state of the server?

[BitVyper]

I guess I could do some maps once my exams are over.

[Thadius]

http://i39.tinypic.com/3323zhw.jpg

That's a very nice oubliette you have there, mister creeper. It'd be a shame if something were to...happen to it.

http://i43.tinypic.com/29oo7bm.jpg

I see you've made a friend. It'd be a shame if something were to...happen to him.

This was seriously the first time those oubliette rooms have ever worked out in my favor. I didn't want to kill either of them, it was just too nice of an occurrence.

Oh yeah and I also opened up my ender portal as well, I suppose that's news.

[Flarecobra]

Requesting we hang on to that map seed, as that is an Awesome Map.

[BitVyper]

THIS IS IMPORTANT

So the server got griefed. The griefer claimed to have been invited by Bolt187, but this is almost certainly bullshit. I have, however, banned Bolt187 in addition to the griefer just for the moment.

IF ANYONE KNOWS BOLT187, ASK HIM WHAT'S UP.

For the time being, Shyria has been deputized just until Fifth has got permissions running again, so if you got griefed, talk to her, me, or Fifth about restoring your things. Also post in the thread, especially if a griefer shows up. I know Fifth tends to check what's going on in here if there's new posts. You can, of course, also leave a message for me on AIM.

Anyway, it looked like some people were a little worried, so lemme just say: He's not hacking anything, he's not Fifth's friend like he claimed - he's just a wannabe. If Bolt is involved at all, it's probably just that he posted a link to Fiendcraft somewhere.

[Fifthfiend]

go ahead and like, creativemode people until they're back up to speed maybe.

i gotta figure some shit out with permissions, i'll be workin on it.

[BitVyper]

On further consideration, Bolt is unbanned on the basis that the guy who griefed the server was pretty much definitely lying.

[Aldurin]

Talked to Bolt, apparently he was on another server, and a random person (Orangehead) asked if anyone knew of any good servers. Bolt answered, not realizing the ramifications of what happens when we let the "uncultured" into the server (he's aware now). He said he was unaware that Orange was a greifer, and he doesn't know derfthekool (which we both assume is someone Orange invited). In short Bolt made the griefers aware of the server without realizing their intent, and I ask that he doesn't share their consequences for the damage to the server.

[BitVyper]

No obviously he's not getting punished for that. That's pretty much what I assumed happened, so everything is good.

And by all means, feel free to invite people to fiendcraft. I don't want people getting xenophobic. This is mostly just evidence that we need to get our permissions plugins running.

Edit: And if anyone gives Bolt grief over this incident, let me know, 'cause I heard people getting a bit blamey, and that's not going to be acceptable.

[Doc ock rokc]

...Some one stole all my chests. I mean I knew i was being stolen from here and there Some wood or stone or the occasional iron. That's fine, those are renewable resources I could find iron or stone anywhere. But now they stole Everything from my diamond to the actual FUCKING put down chests themselves... and killed my snow gen! I am Not Pleased.

[Ryong]

So uh, are the old worlds up or something? Like infernum and world? 'cause I get in the server and I'm in some random place I have no idea what is.

[Doc ock rokc]

So uh, are the old worlds up or something? Like infernum and world? 'cause I get in the server and I'm in some random place I have no idea what is.

its a new world right now. So I don't know if its temp or not. but its justa new world right now.

[Thadius]

Oi, doc. Show up again, and those of us who can will aid you.

[Flarecobra]

Whitelist is now back on, as a result of all these griefers.

Oh, and have some Minecraft Update News.

ucijolcuX0E

[Marc v4.0]

I think it might be time for the old worlds to go the way of being removed and uploaded for us to use in ssp. It beats branching out a million billion miles from spawn just to find something that no one has fondled yet

[Aldurin]

Writable books.

It's about damn time, I'm pretty excited for that. There may or may not be a tidal wave of horrible fanfiction on the server once I get back and set up the proper farms.

[BitVyper]

Bannedthe guys I think were actually griefing. Also I don't think the Whitelist being active actually does anything. I saw people who'd never been to the server before logging in just fine afterward.

[Arhra]

Hey guys, are we definitely going to a new world or not? Just want to get an idea of permanence before I start putting down roots again.

[Doc ock rokc]

I think it might be time for the old worlds to go the way of being removed and uploaded for us to use in ssp. It beats branching out a million billion miles from spawn just to find something that no one has fondled yet

You don't have to go far at all. you can pretty much get to an untouched spot by moving north a few blocks.

(also Now you know how I feel when people dig under me. beside me/ PUTTING YOUR FUCKING HOUSE RIGHT ON TOP OF MINE!.)

[Marc v4.0]

On the surface, maybe, Even on this new map I've find torches and mined tunnels far far out from spawn already

[Marc v4.0]

Awesome! Someone found my hole in the ground base and stole all the gold and iron from my chest and furnaces! All my beef and chicken, too!

whole fucking stack of iron and beef, gone. The hell.

[Aldurin]

Yeah, we seriously need a whitelist. I don't even want to try to set up shop until the server is secure.

[Marc v4.0]

We need the plugin that lets us lock our chests

[Flarecobra]

Yeah, we've been getting raided as of late.

If someone sees someone they do not recongize, get me, Shy, Bit, or Thad.

[Flarecobra]

UPDATE: Whitelist is working.

Let the aformentioned people know if you cannot get on/are missing items/need to repair shit.

On another note.

http://sadpanda.us/images/952253-8MF2V9R.jpg

I'm offically the crazy cat lady.

[Doc ock rokc]

Whelp after a whole bunch of jury rigging and jiggy pokery I have managed to create a Sand gen.

http://i.imgur.com/guTRm.png

anyone need any glass?

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Your abuse of physics and science continues to impress. Maybe you should change your name to Dr Doom instead?

[Doc ock rokc]

Your abuse of physics and science continues to impress. Maybe you should change your name to Dr Doom instead?

Funny story in that Homestruck Title test thingy My title is "The Mage of Doom" Doom classes wear Green...I am basically Doctor Doom in Homestuck

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Out of curiosity, who dug the tunnel straight back into the anteroom of my jungle temple? It's the 1x2 block high hallway with a crafting bench sunk into the ground at the entrance. I'm about to brick it up in any case.

[Flarecobra]

None of my mines have encountered that... and the only other person I know of that's doing anything in the jungle is Aldurin.

[Marc v4.0]

Latest snapshot is out, your usual fixes and tweaks and things. New plant, cocoa bean pods that grow on jungle trees, and new Large Biomes Gamemode.

http://i.imgur.com/Ngm2G.jpg

[Aldurin]

That is worth it just to have a giant mushroom biome and a giant jungle biome.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

It also means we can legitimately stage things like an epic expedition to a far off tundra or desert (at least until the map gets so big it borks the server).

[Flarecobra]

scr5Nlg_gtg

Have some interesting news.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

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Interesting use of upside down stairs to make secret shrunken tunnels near the start.