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Aerozord
06-30-2011, 01:55 PM
I just wish I could figure out how to install mods, every time I do I just get a black screen

[edit]its because they just updated to 1.7 isn't it? sonova.... how do you downgrade again? atleast want to find out if its a version issue

Fifthfiend
06-30-2011, 02:28 PM
It's just... who are you to decide it's better?

A person who is correct.

Fifthfiend
06-30-2011, 03:21 PM
Yay, piston update!!! But now the server is outdated...

Yup, not updating until the Bukkit update. TOUGH NOOGIES.

edit: see also the Fiendcraft website.

Nikose Tyris
06-30-2011, 03:24 PM
the browser version seems to blackscreen/bug forever with mods in my experience. the .exe doesn't.

ALSO 1.7 WOO

Aerozord
06-30-2011, 03:32 PM
the browser version seems to blackscreen/bug forever with mods in my experience. the .exe doesn't.

ALSO 1.7 WOO

but I am using the .exe version :crying:

Fifthfiend
06-30-2011, 03:36 PM
Honestly I'm kinda considering just running updated minecraft with a trash map or something cause PISTONZ

...also I guess shears?

Nikose Tyris
06-30-2011, 03:44 PM
Yeah the shears were unexpected. I'd support a trash map, no boundaries and just random group experimentation.

...maybe a couple chests of supplies from our admin overlords.

Aerozord
06-30-2011, 03:45 PM
oh when I figure out some way to get mine working again

So my mega room on terra has a wall that runs along a dungeon, to my knowledge the only one we've run across. Anyone want to take a look before I rip it apart?

Melfice
06-30-2011, 04:01 PM
you mean to say wolves are awesome, and thats fair enough to say. Like when humans first domesticated we love the idea of taking a wild animal and making it our friend. But minus the emotional aspect of the game wolves didn't add much. They are mobs that will help defend you but even ignoring the issues of maintaining them that is absolutely all they do.

Do not be blinded by their cuteness, thats how Gremlins started

A person who is correct.

Naw, wolves can be annoying as fuck. It's just... consider this: You're making something you're enjoying, and then Johnny Jack comes along, paid for the thing you made, and then decided he can do something more impressive. Which is alright, nothing against that.

But then he names it "Better than X", where X is the addition you just made.
To me, that sounds like the ultimate form of entitlement and jackass-ery. "Notch added something he thought would be fun, but I dislike. I'LL ADD BETTER STUFF AND MAKE FUN OF HIM! HARHARHAR."

That's my problem with the mod's name.

CitizenZ
06-30-2011, 04:18 PM
Yeah the shears were unexpected. I'd support a trash map, no boundaries and just random group experimentation.

...maybe a couple chests of supplies from our admin overlords.

If by trash map you mean a normal map until the bukkit update comes through, I would also like that.

Aldurin
06-30-2011, 04:48 PM
I guess, though I won't update yet until I try out the new mod (it's a freakin' shame the guy hasn't ported this to multiplayer yet).

Flarecobra
06-30-2011, 04:54 PM
I'd go with a plain vanilla map, just a little something to tide us over until Bukket updates.

Fifthfiend
06-30-2011, 05:18 PM
(it's a freakin' shame the guy hasn't ported this to multiplayer yet).

Mods that involve new blocktypes would be hugely difficult to implement in multiplayer.

To me, that sounds like the ultimate form of entitlement and jackass-ery.

To me the ultimate form of jackassery is killing glitch boosters.

Marc v4.0
06-30-2011, 05:20 PM
Oh look, this conversation again

Aerozord
06-30-2011, 06:31 PM
To me the ultimate form of jackassery is killing glitch boosters.

I dont know about you but if even half of BTW gets ported into the game proper all is forgiven.

Fifthfiend
06-30-2011, 07:36 PM
TBH pistons will probably make up for at least a bit.

Fifthfiend
06-30-2011, 07:47 PM
HEY GUYS, PAY ATTENTION TO THIS POST


So I am gonna put up a temp map and run the updated server with it until bukkit updates.

HOWEVER

there are some bugs in the current version of minecraft and, resultantly, some shit you should NOT DO with pistons

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history



If a piston is activated and it disrupts a redstone wire, torch, repeater, pressure pad, or any other block providing power, and doing so will cut power to the piston in the same tick, the game will crash and become unloadable. Using any map editor to remove the offending blocks and entities will make the map loadable again.
Hitting a certain side of or breaking an iron or wooden door with your hands will make pink or purple particles. This applies to punching or using a tool.
Breaking obsidian with a wooden shovel will create pink/purple particles.
Closing a door will create pink/purple particles.
Torches used in clocks, flip flops, and latches will burn out after short use.
When crushed by pistons (or what they're moving) or when inside while it contracts, the player will be moved out of the way or into impossible places, on SMP this usually throws a "Player moved wrongly!" warning.
In rare cases, when redstone travels semi-long distances (almost 15 blocks), the current won't go through all the redstone, even with a repeater just before the end of the signal. Whether this is due to redstone errors or inter-block interaction errors, it is unknown. Usually occurs around redstone being raised up and turning simultaneously.



I am counting on you all to NOT BE FUCKIN' STUPID and DO NOT break the server with the above server-breaking bugs.

BitVyper
06-30-2011, 07:53 PM
To me, that sounds like the ultimate form of entitlement and jackass-ery. "Notch added something he thought would be fun, but I dislike. I'LL ADD BETTER STUFF AND MAKE FUN OF HIM! HARHARHAR."

As far as I know, it's just a really awesome mod that makes some digs at the wolf update. Boo hoo.

It's not even really that offensive. The title is pretty much exactly what it is. If the title were something like "Notch is an asstard who didn't give me what I wanted and in this mod ever block is me pooping on his face" you might have something.

I guess it's kind of maybe a little bit jerky? But it's kind of valid criticism too. I mean, I love wolves, but there seems to be a lot of rush to put out glitchy updates that don't have a lot of meat to them.

Aldurin
06-30-2011, 07:57 PM
The title came from the minecraft forum thread "Challenge: Better than Wolves" which was a challenge to modders to make something that was better than the wolf update but took less effort to implement.

Thus we have this awesome mod.

Marc v4.0
06-30-2011, 09:09 PM
The title came from the minecraft forum thread "Challenge: Better than Wolves" which was a challenge to modders to make something that was better than the wolf update but took less effort to implement.

Thus we have this awesome mod.

Yeah, that entire concept doesn't reek of exactly what Melfice was talking about.

Flarecobra
06-30-2011, 09:16 PM
Fire or redstone is now required to trigger TNT.

This makes me raise an eyebrow.

Also: "Fences have a welcome improvement for architects - they can now be stacked on top of one-another when placed in the world. This removes the need for complex block-place-remove routines, which until now, were the only way to stack fence posts vertically. Additionally, players may now place torches on top of fences."

FUCKIGN FINALLY!

Marc v4.0
06-30-2011, 09:36 PM
Fuck yes, we need add a sky worlds map cause this fucking rocks!

Shyria Dracnoir
06-30-2011, 10:39 PM
You know what Skyworld reminds me of? Classic Spyro levels.

Aldurin
06-30-2011, 10:42 PM
We just need the credits music and then that timeless font they used for the game and then we're set.

Grandmaster_Skweeb
06-30-2011, 11:43 PM
The title came from the minecraft forum thread "Challenge: Better than Wolves" which was a challenge to modders to make something that was better than the wolf update but took less effort to implement.

Thus we have this awesome mod.

Looks like an awesome mod, yeah. Definitely some stuff that could be implemented in vanilla. If notch gets through his ironclad copyright section (I laughed at it, I really did.) Now if only the modder wasn't a royal douchecock.

Aerozord
07-01-2011, 12:10 AM
did you laugh cause Notch didn't actually make the source code, but it was someone else that abandoned his idea and left it open for anyone to use?

Doc ock rokc
07-01-2011, 12:35 AM
I have just begun being all evil scienceny and I am building a Seemless vault...Its much more menising then it sounds...honest.

Grandmaster_Skweeb
07-01-2011, 12:44 AM
did you laugh cause Notch didn't actually make the source code, but it was someone else that abandoned his idea and left it open for anyone to use?

Poor wording on my part. School and work leavin' be braindead. I more or less meant to imply if the Mojang crew implement it in vanilla they'd need to get through Flowerchild's ironclad impenetrable copyright paragraph *cough morelikebloatedego cough*.

CitizenZ
07-01-2011, 12:48 AM
Is the server up? I'm not getting in.

Melfice
07-01-2011, 03:20 AM
The title came from the minecraft forum thread "Challenge: Better than Wolves" which was a challenge to modders to make something that was better than the wolf update but took less effort to implement.

Thus we have this awesome mod.

Unaware of this. Doesn't change my feelings on the name of the mod, though. What were they thinking?
EDIT: Ah, checking up on that, the challenge was issued by the same guy who made the mod. =/

To me the ultimate form of jackassery is killing glitch boosters.

This again? Christ.

I mean, I love wolves, but there seems to be a lot of rush to put out glitchy updates that don't have a lot of meat to them.

Gee, I wonder why.

"NOTCH, WHY DON'T YOU PUT OUT MORE UPDATES?"
And then he releases a small update, adding one or two things:
"NOTCH, YOUR UPDATE IS STUPID, TRIVIAL AND CONTAINED LOTS OF GLITCHES."
And then he tries to focus on three-course meal updates (LOTS of additions and bugfixes)

Ad infinitum, rectum coitus.

:crossarms:

EDIT: Once more, I'd like to stress that the mod itself looks incredible (aside from the wolf dung. Better than wolves, indeed.), it's just that the mod's name stops me from downloading it and giving it a go.
The same way I'd give an awesomely written book a pass if it's called "Women's Suffrage: What a joke." (WARNING: HYPERBOLE)

Marc v4.0
07-01-2011, 06:31 AM
The same way I'd give an awesomely written book a pass if it's called "Women's Suffrage: What a joke." (WARNING: HYPERBOLE)

But, it has giant robot battles and magical adventures!

Fifthfiend
07-01-2011, 03:45 PM
"NOTCH, WHY DON'T YOU PUT OUT MORE UPDATES?"

I mean I'm just saying I'm pretty sure I, personally, have never actually said this one.

This again? Christ.

Well gosh I hate to interrupt your multiple posts on how upset you are by the name of an unofficial, free game mod.

Fifthfiend
07-01-2011, 03:56 PM
This Notch Defense League shit is the biggest drag, I swear to God.

Fifthfiend
07-01-2011, 03:59 PM
AND HOW FUCKING DARE ANYONE OUT THERE MAKE FUN OF MARKUS PERSSON

AFTER ALL HES BEEN THROUGH

EVILNess
07-01-2011, 04:02 PM
Fifth, you are an angry and weird guy.

Fifthfiend
07-01-2011, 04:04 PM
Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me, Princess!

Aerozord
07-01-2011, 04:04 PM
Melfice you seem to be under the mistaken impression anyone here is disappointed by the wolf update. To my knowledge we are all happy with it, and know that friendly AI is a pain to code so makes sense it took so much time and effort. Just because this mod is better, doesn't make that update bad. Still the best update (excluding this recent one and maybe powered rails)

Personally I will always prefer more crafting recipes cause its what I most enjoy in minecraft. No mob, effect, or new block type (unless it adds more crafting options) can surpass my desire for more crap to build

Fifthfiend
07-01-2011, 04:13 PM
This all reminds me, I am PRETTY SURE I installed (on the bukkit server) the plugin that will cause your wolves to respawn if they derp into a lava pit or whatever.

Never tested it cause I FOR ONE AM NOT KILLING MY PRECIOUS DARLING BABY DARLINGS but just so you guys know that's there.

...eh fuck it I should just put in the invincibility plugin, let ya dogs go lavaswimming.

Fifthfiend
07-01-2011, 04:18 PM
HEY GUYS

I guess there was a 1.7.2 update.

DOES THE SERVER NEED TO BE UPDATED TO WORK WITH 1.7.2, OR ARE YOU STILL CURRENTLY ABLE TO LOG ON?

LET ME KNOW GUYS

BitVyper
07-01-2011, 04:36 PM
Been logging on fine, myself.

Melfice
07-01-2011, 05:03 PM
I mean I'm just saying I'm pretty sure I, personally, have never actually said this one.

Never meant to, nor did I ever imply you had. If I have, or you think I have, please quote the post so that I may prostrate myself before your magnificent self and pray you'll grant me forgiveness.

Well gosh I hate to interrupt your multiple posts on how upset you are by the name of an unofficial, free game mod.

Well, gosh. I figured ever since you went off on a rant about how Notch removed the glitch boosters, something Notch always said he'd fix... I'm sorry.

This Notch Defense League shit is the biggest drag, I swear to God.

AND HOW FUCKING DARE ANYONE OUT THERE MAKE FUN OF MARKUS PERSSON

AFTER ALL HES BEEN THROUGH

Oh, piss off you miser. I don't know what's going on over there, but if you've got a problem, deal with it at the source. Don't take it out on me.

But just for the record, this ain't about defending poor ol' Markus. This is about me not liking the mod's name.

Melfice you seem to be under the mistaken impression anyone here is disappointed by the wolf update.

Again, never meant to imply that about anybody.
If I ever did, I never intended to, and I'd like you to tell me where you got the idea. It's a lame excuse, I know, but English isn't my native language, so maybe I mucked up and worded things weirdly. Would really, honestly appreciate it if you did.

To my knowledge we are all happy with it, and know that friendly AI is a pain to code so makes sense it took so much time and effort. Just because this mod is better, doesn't make that update bad. Still the best update (excluding this recent one and maybe powered rails)

Personally I will always prefer more crafting recipes cause its what I most enjoy in minecraft. No mob, effect, or new block type (unless it adds more crafting options) can surpass my desire for more crap to build

And all in all, I like more recipes myself. It's why I run with IndustrialCraft and FiniteLiquid.
It's just that the mod's name sounds so arrogant. Flowerchild (mod author) could have easily picked a different name and NOT come off arrogant.

But I suppose this'll be the last I say about it.
Wouldn't want to further arouse your splendid and always happy server host.

CitizenZ
07-01-2011, 05:12 PM
HEY GUYS

I guess there was a 1.7.2 update.

DOES THE SERVER NEED TO BE UPDATED TO WORK WITH 1.7.2, OR ARE YOU STILL CURRENTLY ABLE TO LOG ON?

LET ME KNOW GUYS

Im not. It said connection refused.

Doc ock rokc
07-01-2011, 05:14 PM
Im not. It said connection refused.

The IP changed recently double check the IP then log on.

Fifthfiend
07-01-2011, 05:16 PM
If the server version were the problem it'd be giving you something like "server out of date", if it's "connection refused" it's probably something like doc said, check your IP (or just use fiendcraft.net)

Fifthfiend
07-01-2011, 05:18 PM
Never meant to, nor did I ever imply you had. If I have, or you think I have, please quote the post so that I may prostrate myself before your magnificent self and pray you'll grant me forgiveness.

Well, gosh. I figured ever since you went off on a rant about how Notch removed the glitch boosters, something Notch always said he'd fix... I'm sorry.

Oh, piss off you miser. I don't know what's going on over there, but if you've got a problem, deal with it at the source. Don't take it out on me.

But just for the record, this ain't about defending poor ol' Markus. This is about me not liking the mod's name.

Again, never meant to imply that about anybody.
If I ever did, I never intended to, and I'd like you to tell me where you got the idea. It's a lame excuse, I know, but English isn't my native language, so maybe I mucked up and worded things weirdly. Would really, honestly appreciate it if you did.

And all in all, I like more recipes myself. It's why I run with IndustrialCraft and FiniteLiquid.
It's just that the mod's name sounds so arrogant. Flowerchild (mod author) could have easily picked a different name and NOT come off arrogant.

But I suppose this'll be the last I say about it.
Wouldn't want to further arouse your splendid and always happy server host.

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt148/fifthfiend/reactions/original.gif

BitVyper
07-01-2011, 05:41 PM
Oh, piss off you miser.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

But Jesus, man, cool off. None of this was personal until you started insulting people.

Doc ock rokc
07-01-2011, 05:45 PM
Ald I finished your Elevator with essentually what you want AND installed a Master switch so you can keep people from entering your base unannounced.

Aldurin
07-01-2011, 05:49 PM
Doc, you are a genius.

BitVyper
07-01-2011, 05:54 PM
Elevator? Where is this at?

Melfice
07-01-2011, 06:21 PM
English isn't my native language

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

No. No, it does not.
Thank you, though. I now know more stuff.

Aldurin
07-01-2011, 06:26 PM
The castle-ish place near shy's island is mine. I went overambitious with a piston elevator and dragged Doc into it.

Flarecobra
07-01-2011, 06:32 PM
On the island where the spawn is, I found a nice little cavern with lava in it. I am claiming it.

Fifthfiend
07-01-2011, 06:37 PM
Damn, I for realsies want to see the elevator implementation

Aerozord
07-01-2011, 07:20 PM
I made a bridge trap (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agZDsS-Ds54)

well maybe better to say challenge since if you get the timing you are ok, but whatever

Shyria Dracnoir
07-01-2011, 08:26 PM
Aero, I think I may recruit you and Doc to help me devise the Citadel of Kre'pher once we get back to the normal map.

Doc ock rokc
07-03-2011, 01:42 AM
OK I made the fir Second sand elevator near (as in mildy in view of) alds castle The secon first bugged to hell version is at my vault (also Mildly nearby the second.

Flarecobra
07-03-2011, 02:17 AM
Ok, ready to make the Blackbird in the map.. Or at least an attempt at it. This *might* not turn out right.

Course, that's why it's a prototype. :D

Grandmaster_Skweeb
07-03-2011, 03:13 AM
Apply this engine to minecraft concept. (http://outerra.com/wgallery.html)
???
Find new pants. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6KhFBES0o0g)

Melfice
07-03-2011, 04:05 AM
Impressive engine, for sure. Not entirely sure how it'd work for Minecraft, though.
That said, a lot of other games could benefit from it.

Aldurin
07-03-2011, 07:45 PM
Skyworld is turning out pretty nice, although the infrastructure is lacking.

Oh yeah, to the people who made the infinitely looping music circuit, please move that to another island or I will turn it off every time I am on.

Aerozord
07-04-2011, 12:58 AM
Skyworld is turning out pretty nice, although the infrastructure is lacking.

Oh yeah, to the people who made the infinitely looping music circuit, please move that to another island or I will turn it off every time I am on.

I clearly need to tweak it if the sound is grating, but feel free to just break the circuit, I am finishing another project and am nowhere near it

PS you should know it was me that made it, I mean you were next to me as I was finishing it

Flarecobra
07-04-2011, 04:42 PM
Idea: A moon map. What do you think?

Aerozord
07-04-2011, 07:33 PM
As promised video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul_--LpFXA4) showing off our tower of babel

oh and thats as loud as I can get the video, both my mic and settings in windows movie maker are maxed out. If anyone has any suggestions let me know

Revising Ocelot
07-04-2011, 10:08 PM
I found a sea in the sky. A Sky Sea. A Ski? Something like that. Will work on some kind of building nearby + access road tomorrow.

Fifthfiend
07-05-2011, 03:15 AM
As promised video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul_--LpFXA4) showing off our tower of babel

oh and thats as loud as I can get the video, both my mic and settings in windows movie maker are maxed out. If anyone has any suggestions let me know

Haha yeah we get it people don't like the tower steps, gonna be cleaning those up.

Awesome video, I kinda love the idea of like recorded tours of the server. You should totally have ended it by jumping back down.

Flarecobra
07-05-2011, 03:24 AM
Yeah, I was just going about making it so one can actually get UP the tower without tearing out their hair.

Oh, and you can see me working on the Blackbird at the end there. :P

Arhra
07-05-2011, 06:33 AM
Test Chamber #1 complete.

That internship at Aperture Science Enrichment Center is going to pay off in a big way, hopefully!

Verifiedz
07-05-2011, 08:56 AM
Hey fifth, one of my 11 year old friends is planning to play minecraft. Is it ok if you whitelist him? I'm not sure of his name yet... I'll tell you when i know.

Aldurin
07-05-2011, 11:20 AM
Oh yeah, beds don't work in the lower world either. I think bukkit reinforces one single spawn per world.

Aerozord
07-05-2011, 11:24 AM
Haha yeah we get it people don't like the tower steps, gonna be cleaning those up.

Awesome video, I kinda love the idea of like recorded tours of the server. You should totally have ended it by jumping back down.

or better, accidentally falling off and then seeing the bottom of the tower :argh:

speaking of, should clear a path to it from where you land when you fall off. Especially if you land at night its very confusing and not helped by there being a mountain between you and it

[edit] before I forget I have to check. Did anyone else know you could just hold shift and click items to automatically move them in and out of your inventory? Until just a few days ago I'd been dragging and dropping them all the time

Fifthfiend
07-05-2011, 01:34 PM
speaking of, should clear a path to it from where you land when you fall off.

But then I'd have to clear a path from... everywhere.


...see, if you fall off Zeal somewhere, you land in the same place in the Forbidden Lands.

Aerozord
07-05-2011, 02:43 PM
ok guys I found out the pistons now included in the game cannot launch items. So we cant like make cannons or anything. Though the original designer of pistons has a mod (http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/228373-ssp172-pistons-patched/) that fixes that. Says it works in SMP but not sure if that means its possible to put in our set up

Fifthfiend
07-05-2011, 03:54 PM
Says it works in SMP but not sure if that means its possible to put in our set up

hhuh

I hereby give permission for whoever wants to to test this on the server to do so as long as they say they're doing it and let me know what happens/whether it crashes the server or anything.

Thadius
07-05-2011, 04:06 PM
Like a dark god, I shall return to Fiendcraft. For the express purpose of exploring this new skyworld and defacing it.

Fifthfiend
07-05-2011, 04:37 PM
and defacing it.

//regen

hhuh

I hereby give permission for whoever wants to to test this on the server to do so as long as they say they're doing it and let me know what happens/whether it crashes the server or anything.

Incidentally I SUSPECT what will happen here is that the pistons will bounce around players who have the mod installed but not blocks or other players.

Aldurin
07-05-2011, 05:12 PM
Incidentally I SUSPECT what will happen here is that the pistons will bounce around players who have the mod installed but not blocks or other players.

That's ridiculous. If players were being launched then we would be at risk of accidentally launching (un)wanted guests into vats of lava and such. Why would anyone on the server do that?

Flarecobra
07-05-2011, 05:13 PM
Deathtraps.

And Aerial Faith Plates.

Fifthfiend
07-05-2011, 05:25 PM
That's ridiculous. If players were being launched then we would be at risk of accidentally launching (un)wanted guests into vats of lava and such. Why would anyone on the server do that?

Technically and assuming my guess is right you could only launch people who chose to make themselves launchable.

Fifthfiend
07-05-2011, 07:38 PM
Sort of a big omnibus post here about various stuff people have asked about what's goin' on with the server and my own thoughts about plans and things:

At this point yeah we are pretty much gonna be keeping the forbidden zeallands.

Terra/Arcanos/Munda/Ely/Infernum will be back at some point and the current uh, worldstack we're now running will be integrated in some manner.

IDK if both will stay creative worlds? I could see making Forbidden Lands a standard-build environment while keeping Zeal as a creative dealie, I'll take suggestions on the topic though. Maybe do like... limited mobs on FL? (not creepers though! NEVER creepers.)

Incidentally the reason we have a skyland now is because the ability to generate skylands I guess got added to bukkit somewhere during MC1.6 and I'd generated a test map and was wondering how to integrate them with the server when the 1.7 update happened.

There are now continguous stairs all the way up from Lands to Zeal so everyone who was unhappy about that should be good.

let's see OH the crucially large spawn area. Kind of my feeling is these two maps both have pretty distinctive characters and I'd kind of like to preserve that.

If you have stuff that was within the spawn radius on Zeal then I guess you kinda got screwed although I will say that I had originally said that the map wasn't even gonna get kept at all so people shouldn't have been building anything they were counting on keeping.

Even outside the protected area I'm gonna kind of generally say uh, try and make an effort to make stuff that looks good and fits with the environment. And if you have like a REALLY BIG project that involves like major terraforming (TNT blasting / island-flattening stuff) then either let me or bit know before you build it right by the spawn OR take it farther out.

If something's a particular eyesore we reserve the right to say so and either ask you to move it elsewhere*Like particularly if we're not thrilled with something but you happen to like it and it's obvious you put a lot of work into it then pretty much we can use the admin tools to move your work to another location so that, hopefully, everyone is happy, or just regen it back to the natural landscape.

Let's see uh... TNT is currently switched off, it'll be switched back on at some point, although I'm gonna be going back to where you can't directly create it via /i. Fire spreading will probably stay switched off since Lands tends to spawn aboveground lava pits and I don't need to be worrying about massive forest fires any time someone goes for a walk.

Anyway that should address a fair amount of the stuff that's come up in the last few days. Hopefully all of that is acceptable to all of you or at least I've done a good enough job making it clear where I'm coming from with it. Let us know your comments/concerns/suggestions/etc. here in this thread.

Fifthfiend
07-05-2011, 07:44 PM
There are now continguous stairs all the way up from Lands to Zeal so everyone who was unhappy about that should be good.

Incidentally I should mention since it hasn't been made clear but the way the current world integration works is that Zeal is actually functionally "above" Lands and maps 1:1 as far as x/z coordinates so ya'll can also build your own paths up to the sky.

...Although again I bring up the prior thing about trying to build stuff that still looks kinda good, if I see like a bunch of one-block-high towers within sight of the Lands spawn then I mean don't get too attached to them or anything you know?

Flarecobra
07-05-2011, 08:01 PM
Perhaps the portal to the Skylands could be set up in an airship or something?

And on the way back, there's a supposed "Monster attack" in a mannor similior to when coming back to Terra from Ely?

Thadius
07-05-2011, 10:53 PM
I approve of these skyworld shenanigans.

Now how to make the sky turn black merely from the suffering I am about to lay down upon my little corner of the world?...

Aldurin
07-05-2011, 10:58 PM
Now how to make the sky turn black merely from the suffering I am about to lay down upon my little corner of the world?...

Obsidian, lots of obsidian (but Black Wool would work since fire is turned off).

Aerozord
07-05-2011, 11:05 PM
speaking of, Fifth you said that its a 1to1 and we can build towers up there, how exactly does that work? When we reach a height we just go there? what about the block we were standing on, does it end up as the foundation in zeal? What if its sand or gravel?

Fifthfiend
07-05-2011, 11:08 PM
Yeah when you reach like, y:128 then you are ported into Zeal, if there's no block at y:0 in Zeal at that x/Z coordinate then the plugin generates a glass one for you to stand on.

Fifthfiend
07-05-2011, 11:17 PM
News on changes to be included in 1.8

NPC villages
Randomly generated dungeons
New biome code
Fully working Creative Mode (and individual admins can enter Creative Mode on a Survival Mode server if they choose)
Critical hits
Sprinting
More farming options


also I put the big omnibus stuff-about-the-server post on fiendcraft.net, as well as Aerozord's Babel video.

As far as the new biomes / dungeons that'll probably change how map generation works and IDK what that'll mean for the current maps, we'll find out when it happens?!

BitVyper
07-06-2011, 05:33 PM
Fifth, left a message on AIM for you. Console is spitting out mad permissions-related errors at random ever since I added the user 187119 to Zeal and Forbidden Lands. I reverted to the older save and reloaded the permissions, but the console is still going ape-shit here and again for no particular reason that I can discern. It doesn't seem to be causing anyone problems.

I kinda remember us having this problem last time 187119 was added to the permissions.

Fifthfiend
07-06-2011, 06:58 PM
Yeah pretty much the deal is 187119 cannot play on this server because his name breaks our shit, sorry.

If he wants to see if he can get his minecraft name changed or pay fifteen dollars for another minecraft name that doesn't break our shit then he is welcome to join.

Alternately if someone happens to be an experienced java programmer and can download the source code of the permissions plugin we use and custom-compile a new version that handles all-numbers usernames the same way it handles text usernames then 187119 can totally play on this server with his existing numbery name.

I'm sorry it's like that but permissions is kind of the linchpin which holds together our wonderful world of skyworlds and give commands and unkillable puppies (IDK if i mentioned puppies are unkillable now) and it's not really something that is within my own personal capabilities to change.

Thadius
07-06-2011, 07:04 PM
And in the process of finding this out, you brought the server down?

Just sayin'.

Fifthfiend
07-06-2011, 07:25 PM
And in the process of finding this out, you brought the server down?

Just sayin'.

Yes I did indeed take the server down briefly in order to repair a recurring critical error on the server, as is pretty obviously the sort of thing a person repairing a recurring critical error on a server would have to do.

Aldurin
07-06-2011, 08:28 PM
I'll talk to (bluh numbers) about this, since name change is currently impossible (I was right to disapprove when he used random numbers to make his username). It seems unlikely that he'll buy a new account but I'll wait and see.

Also I would totally dive headfirst into this Java thing except for that it is a lot more complicated than it sounds and I have no formal education in software.

Marc v4.0
07-06-2011, 09:00 PM
Sure a name change would only require you to contact Majong support, not what I would call impossible

Aldurin
07-07-2011, 12:19 PM
I looked into the name change and the support page says that the service is not available, and I doubt they would make an exception just so that the person's account gets compatibility with a third-party mod.

My friend said he is probably going to give his current account to his brother and buy his own account with a proper username instead of playing the waiting game.

Fifthfiend
07-07-2011, 02:57 PM
*Pays for new account*

*makes username entirely out of weird ASCII symbols and Japanese characters*

Marc v4.0
07-07-2011, 03:09 PM
Don't know until you try

*Pays for new account*

*makes username entirely out of weird ASCII symbols and Japanese characters*

That is a proper internet name if I ever heard of one

Aerozord
07-07-2011, 05:36 PM
everyone knows a proper internet name is your hobby, followed by kid, grrl, pie, or izzle with a bunch of numbers at the end.

Marc v4.0
07-07-2011, 08:14 PM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4549162/babel.png


So pretty

EVILNess
07-07-2011, 09:04 PM
http://i.imgur.com/pqYck.jpg

Notice the two giant mushrooms.

Flarecobra
07-07-2011, 09:44 PM
What textures did you use for those?

Aerozord
07-07-2011, 09:47 PM
looks like the default to me. speaking of, anyone know a way to remove the texture on glass? all the texture packs I've found just replace glass's crappy texture with a better but still existent texture. I just want blocks I can see through that I can use for windows

Flarecobra
07-07-2011, 09:56 PM
No, that has blocks with the mushroom textures on it.

Aldurin
07-07-2011, 11:26 PM
Aeroz, your best bet is to take the texture pack you want, open up the block textures image in GIMP or something, and then fill the square with the glass texture entirely with the transparency color.

Fifthfiend
07-07-2011, 11:43 PM
looks like the default to me. speaking of, anyone know a way to remove the texture on glass? all the texture packs I've found just replace glass's crappy texture with a better but still existent texture. I just want blocks I can see through that I can use for windows

edit the terrain.png file in whichever texture pack so that the glass bit is blank.

Aerozord
07-08-2011, 12:28 AM
Aeroz, your best bet is to take the texture pack you want, open up the block textures image in GIMP or something, and then fill the square with the glass texture entirely with the transparency color.

there is a transparency color?

EVILNess
07-08-2011, 12:59 AM
No, that has blocks with the mushroom textures on it.

That is an official Notch posted screenshot my dear.

Flarecobra
07-08-2011, 01:25 AM
From where? I can't find anything about it.

Melfice
07-08-2011, 01:57 AM
Likewise, I can't find that screenshot on any of the official channels either.
Checked the tumblr blog, Notch's Twitter AND Jens' Twitter.

Fifthfiend
07-08-2011, 02:44 AM
Guys, don't you know?

Secret forum celebrity Evilness IS Notch!

AND HAS BEEN ALL ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG

BitVyper
07-08-2011, 09:35 AM
So is today's update causing the game to just straight up not work for anyone? Like, it crashes on the title screen.

Edit: Looks like deleting all my textures fixed the problem. Uuuuugh.

Nikose Tyris
07-08-2011, 09:57 AM
Game crashes on default texture pack for me with 5 minutes of playing.

HRGH

Flarecobra
07-08-2011, 12:06 PM
Worked fine here.

EVILNess
07-08-2011, 12:53 PM
Notch has a Google+.

EDIT: In fact, this is another picture from Jeb's Google+.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QUerZ8mbujQ/Tg3WQjwXojI/AAAAAAAAAB0/Kxa2fHM7eu8/2011-06-29_12.52.37.png

Marc v4.0
07-08-2011, 01:19 PM
Notch has a Google+.

EDIT: In fact, this is another picture from Jeb's Google+.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QUerZ8mbujQ/Tg3WQjwXojI/AAAAAAAAAB0/Kxa2fHM7eu8/2011-06-29_12.52.37.png

Oh, fucking hot shit.

Melfice
07-08-2011, 02:06 PM
Oh, shit. You pulled that from Google+?

Did Notch and Jens read the agreement?
Those pictures are no longer copyrighted to their name. Those images belong to Google now. EDIT: At least, from what I understand...

EDIT AGAIN: They understand, it seems.

BitVyper
07-08-2011, 04:25 PM
Whoever dumped lava all over that one island near Flare's pyramid, let me know if you're actually making it part of something, 'cause if it's just some random lava dump I'm gonna get rid of it later tonight.

Fifthfiend
07-08-2011, 04:37 PM
Just thought I'd mention today is the five-monthiversary of the official launch of fiendcraft!

I should find something special to do for the half-year mark, maybe.

Aerozord
07-08-2011, 04:41 PM
oh to whoever filled in that hole in that small lake on Zeal, please do not do so again, its how I get into my house, yes I know if falls into nothing, not sure how it works but if I fall down it I end up inside, its cool and I want to keep it

Fifthfiend
07-08-2011, 04:53 PM
Hey BTW if anybody bored, do some screenshots of cool shit and throw 'em at me.

Flarecobra
07-08-2011, 04:58 PM
Whoever dumped lava all over that one island near Flare's pyramid, let me know if you're actually making it part of something, 'cause if it's just some random lava dump I'm gonna get rid of it later tonight.

That was me. It's part of a temple I built there.

EVILNess
07-08-2011, 08:22 PM
Just thought I'd mention today is the five-monthiversary of the official launch of fiendcraft!

I should find something special to do for the half-year mark, maybe.

I object.

An anniversary is a yearly thing, it commemorates a past event that occurred on the same day of the year as the initial event. By definition you cannot have a 6-month anniversary.

Don't be one of those people who do obvious not-anniversaries.

I have too much respect for you, Fifth. Especially for you to dash it against the rocks of not-anniversaries like that.

Kerensky287
07-08-2011, 08:24 PM
When did he ever say it was a 6-month anniversary?

He said that today was the five-monthiversary. Different thing.

He also expressed interest in a celebration to commemorate the half-year reign of Fiendcraft over NPF's minecraft community.

Aerozord
07-08-2011, 08:28 PM
When did he ever say it was a 6-month anniversary?

He said that today was the five-monthiversary. Different thing.

He also expressed interest in a celebration to commemorate the half-year reign of Fiendcraft over NPF's minecraft community.

maybe he meant the anniversary of being around 6 months, which will occur in a year and a month

EVILNess
07-08-2011, 08:39 PM
When did he ever say it was a 6-month anniversary?

He said that today was the five-monthiversary. Different thing.

He also expressed interest in a celebration to commemorate the half-year reign of Fiendcraft over NPF's minecraft community.

He said it was the 5 month-versary. Then said he might have to do something special for 6 months.

HENCE. IMPLIED. 6. MONTH. ANNIVERSARY.

Flarecobra
07-08-2011, 08:43 PM
I object.

An anniversary is a yearly thing, it commemorates a past event that occurred on the same day of the year as the initial event. By definition you cannot have a 6-month anniversary.

Don't be one of those people who do obvious not-anniversaries.

I have too much respect for you, Fifth. Especially for you to dash it against the rocks of not-anniversaries like that.

Let me guess, you don't celebrate unbirthdays, huh? YOU ARE AGENST CELEBRATING STUFF!

Aerozord
07-08-2011, 08:59 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/aerozord/500.png

Aldurin
07-08-2011, 08:59 PM
EVILNess is clearly opposed to happiness and any sort of joy-generating events.

EVILNess
07-08-2011, 09:01 PM
Watch as I twirl my mustache!

Fifthfiend
07-09-2011, 03:20 AM
I object.

An anniversary is a yearly thing, it commemorates a past event that occurred on the same day of the year as the initial event. By definition you cannot have a 6-month anniversary.

Don't be one of those people who do obvious not-anniversaries.

I have too much respect for you, Fifth. Especially for you to dash it against the rocks of not-anniversaries like that.

Big words from a guy whose server didn't last six minutes!

Fifthfiend
07-09-2011, 03:21 AM
WENT.

THERE.

Flarecobra
07-09-2011, 09:14 AM
Hey BTW if anybody bored, do some screenshots of cool shit and throw 'em at me.

Such as this?

http://sadpanda.us/images/554467-OV0SCK9.jpg

EVILNess
07-09-2011, 12:29 PM
WENT.

THERE.

Can't hear you over the sound of me twirling my stache.

EDIT: FOR REFERENCE:


REFERENCE REMOVED DUE TO LAZYNESS

CitizenZ
07-09-2011, 01:03 PM
Ness, if there was supposed to be a picture on your last post, I am not sure that the rest of the world is seeing it. If not, then my computer is being weird again and you are to disregard this post.

akaSM
07-09-2011, 01:09 PM
I haven't been able to see some images for some time. All of them were images from Amazon.com

Aerozord
07-09-2011, 01:14 PM
actually there is something I'd like, thats a new world where we work on making an actual town more like what we had on Ness' server. Just a nice community project

Flarecobra
07-09-2011, 01:15 PM
I'm getting a red X there too.

CitizenZ
07-09-2011, 01:30 PM
actually there is something I'd like, thats a new world where we work on making an actual town more like what we had on Ness' server. Just a nice community project

I think that would be cool. We could use the Forbidden lands for that.

Fifthfiend
07-09-2011, 01:39 PM
Just thought I'd mention today is the five-monthiversary of the official launch of fiendcraft!

I should find something special to do for the half-year mark, maybe.

FYI, nothing about this post implies or references an "anniversary", since etymologically speaking, a "monthiversary" would simply be the turning of a month, in the same way that an anniversary would be the turning of a year.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Meister
07-09-2011, 01:43 PM
I haven't been able to see some images for some time. All of them were images from Amazon.com
Ya'll should be rehosting your images anyway, if only as a courtesy to the source. Not that this little forum is going to generate enough bandwidth on an image to negatively impact multinational online retail quasi-monopolist amazon's performance buuuuut WHAT IF EVERYONE DID IT.

Anyway. Minecraft, huh. You guys familiar with the Yogscast? They have a pretty great Minecraft series on youtube, part Let's Play, part RPG and part mod/adventure map showcase. Worth a few weeks of your time.

http://www.youtube.com/show/minecraft?s=1

EVILNess
07-09-2011, 02:01 PM
FYI, nothing about this post implies or references an "anniversary", since etymologically speaking, a "monthiversary" would simply be the turning of a month, in the same way that an anniversary would be the turning of a year.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

All I see is not-anniversary lies and propaganda.

Aldurin
07-09-2011, 04:20 PM
actually there is something I'd like, thats a new world where we work on making an actual town more like what we had on Ness' server. Just a nice community project

Building proper town-like buildings would be a nice change from EPIC BADASS BUILDINGS EVERYWHERE with assloads of distance between them. Problem is getting enough people to make it worthwhile (unless you're one of those weirdos that's fine with building a town of 1).

Melfice
07-09-2011, 04:52 PM
If you just assign lots to people, they can go ahead and build whatever they like in those lots. Within reason, of course.

So, for instance, everybody is assigned a couple chunks of land (actual chunk (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Chunk), not a vague denomination of size)

You, Aldurin, might build one or two tower blocks there, while Aerozord, instead, decides to use his chunks to create rows of houses. And so on.
Give everybody their own project to do, instead of just focusing on their own house.

Sure, it'll be an incredibly empty town/city, but it's better than nine or ten houses awkwardly lumped together.

The town on Ness' server was a bit awkward because of it. Especially since we got so little real estate to work with.

EVILNess
07-09-2011, 04:57 PM
The town on Ness' server was a bit awkward because of it. Especially since we got so little real estate to work with.

I want to point out that no one ever officially set any boundaries for the town. The town was zoned as we went by you crazies. Given infinite choice that is what you guys chose to do.

Flarecobra
07-09-2011, 04:58 PM
Yeah, I remember there was like general ideas as to where the edges were.


And also, how does one control dimentions when building underground? That can easily become a royal clusterfuck.

Aerozord
07-09-2011, 04:59 PM
Building proper town-like buildings would be a nice change from EPIC BADASS BUILDINGS EVERYWHERE with assloads of distance between them. Problem is getting enough people to make it worthwhile (unless you're one of those weirdos that's fine with building a town of 1).

also contrast, lets remember a giant tower loses its impressive nature when you can see three others in the distance. Plus they are mostly just for show, or should I say size is, cause if you use if for an actual base it amounts to alot of walking and climbing just to get supplies.

I do have slightly selfish reasons for bringing this up now. I am hoping fifth will finally get my LP world loaded up and connected when the other stuff comes online. Then I want to incorporate our multi-verse into it to also show off everyones stuff. I'd get alot more story fodder from a single close knit town then a dozen spread out mega-structures. Especially since there is no contrast.

There is a reason in movies the first shot of a castle is often from the village near by. Otherwise its just a random building.

To re-iterate, cause I know I have a tendency to give people the wrong idea. I do find them impressive individually, but with a landscape dotted with them they are effectively just normal houses with an annoyingly long walk between them

Melfice
07-09-2011, 05:01 PM
That is true. It WAS run by us, but in the end it just wasn't enough, in my opinion.

I mean, what was it again? Everybody had 6 x 6 x something room to build in? Briefly ignoring the fact we were allowed to join estate above a certain height.

But, y'know, hindsight.

Fifthfiend
07-09-2011, 05:02 PM
You guys should just talk ness into giving me his map so I can plug it into the sever.

Bonus: I can get back to working on my beach house.

Doc ock rokc
07-09-2011, 05:10 PM
Negabonus My water elevator tower!

Flarecobra
07-09-2011, 05:24 PM
And Fort Yggdrasil. :P

Aldurin
07-09-2011, 05:47 PM
NESS, GIVE HIM THE MAP!

EVILNess
07-09-2011, 06:04 PM
If I still have it sure.

EDIT: A quick glance tells me I do not.

Fifthfiend
07-09-2011, 06:14 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

edit: MY BEACH HOUSE :(

akaSM
07-09-2011, 06:30 PM
I'll miss how my house had water pillars as support :(. Maybe I should just redo it somewhere in Fiendcraft :/

Aldurin
07-09-2011, 06:30 PM
I cannot nega-rep you EVIL, but I can encourage you to take on psychological damage equal to what you would have taken from one nega-rep.

EVILNess
07-09-2011, 06:37 PM
It's not like I deleted it on purpose! I meant to actually keep it.

Thadius
07-09-2011, 07:05 PM
It's okay, guys.

I have PLANS. Plans which might mitigate the psychological damage you all just underwent.

THOSE OF YOU WITH KNOWLEDGE OF THE PLANS MAY NOT REVEAL IT AT ALL.

Mainly because I like being a secretive asshole.

Aldurin
07-09-2011, 07:52 PM
But it's not a town with a community feel, we want a town.

Fifthfiend
07-09-2011, 09:27 PM
But it's not a town with a community feel, we want a town.

I'll do you guys up a good town-makin' map, I will even curb my insane nigh-irresistible compulsion to make rules anathemic to community development in its regard.

Marc v4.0
07-09-2011, 09:28 PM
We could totally work out the logistics of a town around the Tower of Babel.

EVILNess
07-09-2011, 11:11 PM
I Just want to say that I cannot build anything fifth.

Aldurin
07-09-2011, 11:28 PM
I Just want to say that I cannot build anything fifth.

Neither could I, but I tried anyway. Look at where I am now.

EVILNess
07-09-2011, 11:38 PM
...

I meant the server won't let me.

Aldurin
07-09-2011, 11:40 PM
Not my fault you weren't specific.

EVILNess
07-09-2011, 11:43 PM
Somehow though, I still blame you.

Fifthfiend
07-10-2011, 12:12 AM
My bad, I added you but i forgot to reload the permissions file, you should be good now.

Aerozord
07-10-2011, 12:31 AM
We could totally work out the logistics of a town around the Tower of Babel.

topography would make it a nightmare. As I detailed awhile ago you need roads, because you subconsciously have a tendency to follow and build off of them, and for that you need relatively flat terrain. Both for roads and houses we'd keep running into cliffs.

I suggest to Fifth using the world I started my LP on since we plan on integrating it into the server anyways.

Shyria Dracnoir
07-10-2011, 01:17 AM
Why not build cliff houses?

EVILNess
07-10-2011, 01:19 AM
Still cant place or destroy blocks.

Flarecobra
07-10-2011, 01:20 AM
How close to spawn are you?

Thadius
07-10-2011, 01:22 AM
Thanks to Aldurin, there is now a rail line to my thing I am building.

Also, do take care not to log out on top of the thing. Layers are still being added, and I'd rather not end up with it taking a life if I can avoid it.

Doc ock rokc
07-10-2011, 01:25 AM
Thanks to Aldurin, there is now a rail line to my thing I am building.

Also, do take care not to log out on top of the thing. Layers are still being added, and I'd rather not end up with it taking a life if I can avoid it.

Even if someone logs out in the middle they just move up the the top most layer.

EVILNess
07-10-2011, 01:28 AM
How close to spawn are you?

I am not anywhere near spawn.

Aerozord
07-10-2011, 02:50 AM
Why not build cliff houses?

Vertical movement is hard. To develop the community you need convenient travel from one building to another. Often you can solve this with stairs but we aren't talking hills but often sheer cliffs.

Plus few people like building into stone. I think because its not very showy

Fifthfiend
07-10-2011, 05:11 AM
Ness, AKASM and anyone who's been having trouble building, that should be fixed now.

The Wandering God
07-10-2011, 05:38 AM
It's like being inside Legos.

Grandmaster_Skweeb
07-11-2011, 05:48 PM
If ruins/dungeons are all this sexy then by god I will never go to the surface again! (http://oi52.tinypic.com/4l4jdk.jpg)

Marc v4.0
07-11-2011, 06:05 PM
If ruins/dungeons are all this sexy then by god I will never go to the surface again! (http://oi52.tinypic.com/4l4jdk.jpg)

Dude needs to adjust his gamma or something before taking pictures...

Flarecobra
07-11-2011, 06:07 PM
I can't even see a thing except for that bit by the water...

Fifthfiend
07-11-2011, 06:11 PM
Speaking of ruins and dungeons, you guys have /sethome and /home now, as well as /warp if/when we add some places for you to warp to, none of which really has anything particularly to do with ruins and dungeons, but WHATEVER, DEAL W/ IT

Marc v4.0
07-11-2011, 06:14 PM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4549162/4l4jdk.png

Fifthfiend
07-11-2011, 06:23 PM
Yeah IDK where squeeb got his screenshot but here's the one they're linking from the minecraft forums.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DbBmKPcvs5s/Thr4YL4yAdI/AAAAAAAAAF4/sEZa2JfOh_s/s800/2011-07-11_15.17.02.png

Grandmaster_Skweeb
07-11-2011, 06:34 PM
Got it straight from Notch's google+ account, guess I grabbed the one with shitty gamma.

Marc v4.0
07-11-2011, 06:34 PM
So, are those like...1/4 blocks or sideways half blocks are something? They look great

Flarecobra
07-11-2011, 06:53 PM
THey look like recolored Bricks.

Marc v4.0
07-11-2011, 06:55 PM
They seemed smaller then standard in the first pick, but that was a trick of the distance, hm, these look like very cool building materials

Aerozord
07-11-2011, 09:03 PM
more curious about that chain like texture on the right, I wonder if its a new item

Flarecobra
07-11-2011, 09:15 PM
I saw "Iron Bars" in the planned blocks section... and "Dried Paper Reeds" would those would be possably.

Also.. Extended Pistons. (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Extended_Pistons)

Doc ock rokc
07-11-2011, 09:26 PM
I hope Iron bars Can carry a Redstone charge up or down also
FUCK YEAH EXTENDED PISTONS!

Fifthfiend
07-11-2011, 09:34 PM
Also.. Extended Pistons. (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Extended_Pistons)

Page tagged as fake pending deletion.

Marc v4.0
07-11-2011, 09:34 PM
This page has been tagged for and is currently pending deletion per user request Discuss
This is due to a violation of the rules or by the author's request.
Reason: Fake, checked on Facebook; which notch apparently doesn't have. If this is a faulty statement, put a citation.

Welp

Flarecobra
07-11-2011, 09:39 PM
:/ Must have been posted up after I mentioned it here.

Still, would be nice to have...

Marc v4.0
07-11-2011, 10:03 PM
Sounds like a mod to look out for, though

edit: I want more redstone devices, things to remove the need for building complex circuit arrays by functioning as those setups. Like clocks and memory cells, those eat up a lot of space if you want to automate something or create a sophisticated device.

Also wouldn't mind redstone-powered lights...

CitizenZ
07-11-2011, 11:35 PM
Also wouldn't mind redstone-powered lights...

That would be awesome.

Aerozord
07-12-2011, 12:12 AM
Sounds like a mod to look out for, though

edit: I want more redstone devices, things to remove the need for building complex circuit arrays by functioning as those setups. Like clocks and memory cells, those eat up a lot of space if you want to automate something or create a sophisticated device.

Also wouldn't mind redstone-powered lights...

they could greatly increase possible complexity and ease of use by just creating a type of wiring that can exist next to, or ideally cross-over normal redstone. I have seen alot of massive set ups and one of the main reasons is to keep paths from connecting where you dont want them to

as an FYI if you dont mind mods the BTW one includes redstone powered lights

Melfice
07-12-2011, 02:23 AM
Sounds like a mod to look out for, though

edit: I want more redstone devices, things to remove the need for building complex circuit arrays by functioning as those setups. Like clocks and memory cells, those eat up a lot of space if you want to automate something or create a sophisticated device.

Also wouldn't mind redstone-powered lights...

That would be awesome.

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/267262-v173moareais-mods-logical-gates-digital-functions-lightbulb-cloak-power-armor-now-with-screenshots/

It's a mod, of course, but still.

Thadius
07-12-2011, 02:55 AM
So hey my project is a little bit bigger than I thought it would be. The zoning in particular is giving me a headache and keeping me up at nights.

But I refuse to be beaten. I am going to finish this thing one way or another.

It is going to be awesome. It is going to be so awesome that when Fifth looks upon its full glory, he will go from Fifthfiend to Fifthangel. There will be a heavenly chorus when the final block is laid to rest. It is going to be so awesome I will weep tears of joy, and then tears of blood due to my biological need to keep weeping.

Fifthfiend
07-12-2011, 03:54 AM
Man what is up with you guys and not being able to come up with plans that don't involve TNTing sky-islands out of existence.

Marc v4.0
07-12-2011, 04:47 AM
they could greatly increase possible complexity and ease of use by just creating a type of wiring that can exist next to, or ideally cross-over normal redstone. I have seen alot of massive set ups and one of the main reasons is to keep paths from connecting where you dont want them to

as an FYI if you dont mind mods the BTW one includes redstone powered lights

Actually, repeaters can function in such a way if used properly, as they only carry a redstone charge in one direction.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4549162/Repeater_bridge.png

Thadius
07-12-2011, 12:37 PM
Man what is up with you guys and not being able to come up with plans that don't involve TNTing sky-islands out of existence.

I have no idea what Bit told you, but I destroyed that island by hand.

Fifthfiend
07-12-2011, 01:02 PM
Because TNT was - as I am increasingly convinced - VERY SENSIBLY removed as an option!!

Fifthfiend
07-12-2011, 01:03 PM
Like are you people all secretly West Virginian coal magnates, what?

Aldurin
07-12-2011, 06:55 PM
/sethome sets only 1 home, no matter what. If you're not in the world that your home was set at, then you'll have to resort to walking. Is this intentional or a glitch?

And will we ever get night back on skyworld? A lot of the stuff looks awesome at night.

Aerozord
07-12-2011, 07:46 PM
Actually, repeaters can function in such a way if used properly, as they only carry a redstone charge in one direction.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4549162/Repeater_bridge.png

two problems, first is you still need to go up a level, but the second problem is the big one and thats that even set to minimum a repeater causes a delay. If you want to run two lines next to each other for multiple blocks this can become an issue

Marc v4.0
07-12-2011, 07:53 PM
Well, it isn't perfect, no.


Also, quit disabling TNT! There are legitimate uses for the stuff!

Aerozord
07-12-2011, 08:19 PM
Well, it isn't perfect, no.


Also, quit disabling TNT! There are legitimate uses for the stuff!

if I recall he just disabled give command for it, you can still make it

Doc ock rokc
07-12-2011, 10:56 PM
I am beginning on the babel bypass (fast elevator for well bypassing Babel) Feel free to try it but realize two things
1 its not done.
2 If you break anything I cut you.

Fifthfiend
07-13-2011, 02:54 AM
And will we ever get night back on skyworld?

As far as i know ATM, no, this is a technical impossibility

Fifthfiend
07-13-2011, 02:49 PM
Fiendcraft players are encouraged to undertake independent testing of new Aerial Faith Plate (TM) Technology. Using cost-effective, abundant Obsidian and clean, renewable Stone Pressure Plates, players can construct their own, ONE HUNDRED PERCENT SAFE and environmentally non-hazardous individual-propulsion transit systems!

For science!

Thadius
07-13-2011, 05:12 PM
Why does that sound both like more fun and more trouble than traditional rail lines?

Regardless. Aerial faith plates will be a new modus transportation in the thing I am doing when the time comes.

Aldurin
07-14-2011, 02:09 AM
Server suddenly disconnected me and is freaking out and doing it again right after I log in.

BitVyper
07-14-2011, 02:13 AM
That's what happens when SOMEONE tries to repeatedly edit over four hundred thousand blocks.

Thadius
07-14-2011, 02:20 AM
Look, while I may be demented and desire the power of a god to rewrite reality as I please, I gotta say:

This one ain't me.

Fifthfiend
07-14-2011, 03:11 AM
I fucked up a thing then i fixed a thing then shit got weird so the server's down gonna have to fix it in the morning.

Fifthfiend
07-14-2011, 03:36 AM
Never mind, looks like we good.

That's what happens when SOMEONE tries to repeatedly edit over four hundred thousand blocks.

And those blocks are all water which then tries to spread downward as I'm further editing them.

Thadius
07-14-2011, 02:57 PM
Fifth.

I respect that you're probably overworked.

I respect that you can mess up, and accidents happen.

BUT IF YOU DON'T FUCKING PUT MY RINGS BACK THE WAY THERE WERE I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND CASTRATE YOU WITH A RUSTY SPOON!! SNOW? OBSIDIAN?! YOU PUT THE BOTTOM RING BACK AS MOSSY AND THE MIDDLE ONE BACK AS COBBLE OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWAKE FOR THE PROCESS!

That is all.

Fifthfiend
07-14-2011, 03:10 PM
You're just lucky turning them into water nuked reality.

Thadius
07-14-2011, 03:47 PM
I know it's probably an Elderitch Thing That Was Not Meant To Be, but that does NOT INVITE YOU TO FUCK AROUND WITH IT!

That's my job.

CitizenZ
07-14-2011, 04:20 PM
Question: When will all the other maps get put back in? I love our current worldstack, but I also like the stuff I built in Arcanos and Terra.

Fifthfiend
07-14-2011, 04:51 PM
Whenever I feel like doing a thing that's a huge hassle and nothing will woork right and then when it does work right everyyone will complain about it.

...this weekend, probably

...although I told myself the same thing last weekend

Fifthfiend
07-14-2011, 05:51 PM
Basically as should be apparent I've added a bunch of funkylicious stuff to the server and it's gonna take some doing meshing that together with the funkylicious stuff that was synonymous with the pre-1.7 environment in a comprehensible and seamless way.

Also holding things up is that there are additional objects of funkadeliciousness which I have designs upon consuming and ingesting into the great roaring belly of Fiendcraft which unfotunately do not go down quite as easily as I would ideally hope which is why it has taken some time digesting them into the vast and mighty stomach of the server, an undertaking in which I may or may not elect to invest further exertions before the grand return of the Greater Terran Empire.

Flarecobra
07-14-2011, 06:07 PM
... You just made me think of what it would take to make a Toejam and Earl level.

BitVyper
07-14-2011, 07:06 PM
Basically as should be apparent I've added a bunch of funkylicious stuff to the server and it's gonna take some doing meshing that together with the funkylicious stuff that was synonymous with the pre-1.7 environment in a comprehensible and seamless way.

Also holding things up is that there are additional objects of funkadeliciousness which I have designs upon consuming and ingesting into the great roaring belly of Fiendcraft which unfotunately do not go down quite as easily as I would ideally hope which is why it has taken some time digesting them into the vast and mighty stomach of the server, an undertaking in which I may or may not elect to invest further exertions before the grand return of the Greater Terran Empire.

Well now I'm hungry.

Fifthfiend
07-14-2011, 09:00 PM
Amazingly I wrote that whole post about an hour AFTER lunch.

SERVERS DOWN ATM FOR WHAT LOOKS LIKE HARDWARE-SIDE SHIZZ

Thadius
07-14-2011, 10:46 PM
Still going to hurt you. Though by now I've gone from simple castration to inventive means of torture. I'm up to sulfuric acid being injected into your stomach!

Fifthfiend
07-15-2011, 02:04 AM
SERVER BACK UP BEE TEE DOUBLEYOU

Verifiedz
07-15-2011, 03:29 PM
I can't get on right now. It's some java issue. Is the server down?

Flarecobra
07-15-2011, 03:38 PM
It was up earlior.

But now it appears to be down.

EDIT: And it's back up. Thank you Fifth!

Doc ock rokc
07-15-2011, 07:39 PM
Ok I had to slow my elevator So that Lag doesn't become a issue. Please feel free to try it out while I am constructing. You can see how it's made from the back

Thadius
07-15-2011, 07:47 PM
You really need to include a user's manual with that elevator.

Doc ock rokc
07-15-2011, 08:56 PM
Just stand in the center and press the button Generally you will be able to get to the top When I am done with it It will harmlessly push you out near the top of babble Right now though It will just drop you from the top.

Fifthfiend
07-15-2011, 10:42 PM
Hey thadius did you happen to get a screencap of you griefing my tower taking basically justified revenge against my tower for my having previously griefed your diamond? That would make an awesome image for the rules page I'm throwing together.

Fifthfiend
07-15-2011, 11:59 PM
HMMMMMMM looks like the server is out

EVILNess
07-16-2011, 12:05 AM
Did you break the server Fifth? I was laying a foundation for awesome.

Thadius
07-16-2011, 12:20 AM
I am preemptively preparing lava fun time with Fifth.

Fifthfiend
07-16-2011, 12:31 AM
AAAAAND we're back

Thadius
07-16-2011, 12:35 AM
You have a very strange definition of 'back.'

java.net.NoRouteToHostException: No route to host: connect

Do you, perchance, live in the mirror-verse?

EVILNess
07-16-2011, 12:38 AM
[COLOR="Cyan"]Do you, perchance, live in the mirror-verse?

That explains his goatee...

Fifthfiend
07-16-2011, 12:59 AM
ugh it crashed like a minute after i said it was back up ITS BACK UP FOR REAL NOW GUYS

NESS I'M SORRY SHIT KEEPS FUCKING UP EVERY TIME YOU TRY TO PLAY MINECRAFT ON MY MINECRAFT SERVER, THIS SEEMS TO KEEP HAPPENING, it's fairly ridiculous

Thadius
07-16-2011, 01:34 AM
And speaking of shit fucking up, the warp commands do not take into account the fact the the thing I am building is still growing. One of the rings would be safer for them, methinks. Otherwise I teleport into solid mass, have my armor break, suffocate, and die. Or I cause a world hole, glitch through reality, and shatter all my bones upon impact with the forbidden lands.

NEITHER ONE IS PARTICULARLY PLEASING.

Doc ock rokc
07-16-2011, 01:39 AM
NEITHER ONE IS PARTICULARLY PLEASING.

Both of which are comedy in their own right.

Aerozord
07-16-2011, 01:46 AM
I had an idea and I wanted to gauge interest, I was thinking of trying to host a SMP map on my computer. If our steam game nights are any indication I seem to have a fairly good connection. Reason is to try some more experimental maps, like running planetoids.

I also wanted to try using Steam to set up a voice chat, cause we all know stopping dead to type something is a pain

[edit] oh and trying out mods, maybe some fun play styles or adventure maps. this will be for short term scheduled shenanigans, I have no intention of tossing up a dedicated server to compete with fifths. This is just to do some stuff thats not practical to add into fiendcraft

EVILNess
07-16-2011, 11:33 AM
I had an idea and I wanted to gauge interest, I was thinking of trying to host a SMP map on my computer.

If you get more than 7 people on at once there will be monster lag. Trust me, I have experience on this.


I also wanted to try using Steam to set up a voice chat, cause we all know stopping dead to type something is a pain


Steam Chat uses a lot of bandwidth for a rather poor voice quality in return. At least in my experience. It would probably be better to set up a Skype call or maybe a Ventrilo server (If less than 8 people) or a Teamspeak 3 server (If more than 8 people)

...

Hey Fifth, you should set up a voice server for yours!

Aerozord
07-16-2011, 01:06 PM
If you get more than 7 people on at once there will be monster lag. Trust me, I have experience on this.

I only didn't mention this because I doubted I'd get that many, but there will be a player cap and this will be for scheduled pre-determined games. I wanted to do this because there are things we simply cant do on Fifths server like adventure maps and mods. Its to allow us to enjoy trying these things with friends and group projects.

Steam Chat uses a lot of bandwidth for a rather poor voice quality in return. At least in my experience. It would probably be better to set up a Skype call or maybe a Ventrilo server (If less than 8 people) or a Teamspeak 3 server (If more than 8 people)I am perfectly open to alternatives. I said steam because I know alot of people with mics have it. Personally I'd go with yahoo since its something with group chat that I already have installed.

Verifiedz
07-16-2011, 04:55 PM
Uh guys what the heck happened to sky tower.... i cant get up its like a giant chunk error even though i relogged

Aerozord
07-16-2011, 05:09 PM
Uh guys what the heck happened to sky tower.... i cant get up its like a giant chunk error even though i relogged

god has seen our great works, and for that he has cast down the tower of babel

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk
07-16-2011, 05:36 PM
Soo.... I finally got around to actually playing this game at last, properly this time. It's fun, though I don't know if my pc can handle online stuff (at the moment it can't even handle sound, I just get a bizarre endless clicking noise whenever I turn it on).

But I wouldn't mind looking around this FiendCraft place you've got going. The brochure makes it look like a happening place.

Melfice
07-16-2011, 05:48 PM
You playing in the browser or did you download the client?
Either way, try the other version.

Who knows? It might work on fixing your sound issues.

Flarecobra
07-16-2011, 06:08 PM
Hate to bust your bubble but It's still there. (http://sadpanda.us/images/569209-23FS1X0.jpg)

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk
07-16-2011, 06:09 PM
I started on the browser but the lag was atrocious so I downloaded it. Duno what's causing it, even if I'm on the main menu when I turn the sound on it still starts up. Makes it terrifying when exploring dark caves and you can't hear enemies.

CitizenZ
07-17-2011, 12:14 AM
Hate to bust your bubble but It's still there. (http://sadpanda.us/images/569209-23FS1X0.jpg)

Hate to burst yours, but no its not. Cant get a pic to work now, but try looking on the forbidden lands.

Edit:
He fixed it.

Fifthfiend
07-17-2011, 04:39 AM
yeah uh idk what happened to the tower but anyway I restored it.

If anyone DOES know what happened to the tower prior to my restoring it then I would appreciate knowin'!